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41 | Sell what you have-give alms | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 212262 | ||
Flyman- I’m beginning to believe that part of your problem is that you’re argumentative which may lead to being unteachable. You asked for the meaning of a single verse and then reply immediately with a rebuttal when the meaning is given. Hardly a good way to get started and certainly a poor approach to learning. Your “impression” about what charitable giving is, is just that… you impression. Unfortunately, many share your impression. A couple of dollars in the donation bucket and I’m done. I’m sure that nothing in my post gave you that impression or was even suggestive of such; again, the impression is your own. You are not seeing the verse and the meaning for what it is because you already have your mind made up about it (which is why I am confused that you asked the question in the first place). You’re failing to apply logic and rational thinking to the verse. Logic and rational can only be applied if you know and understand the precepts taught in Scripture that speak to the issue. So I suggested you do some word studies including that of “steward”. I see that you have not yet. Furthermore, you are even missing the context of individual sentences. You have to pay better attention if you truly want to understand what is being said. I’ll say it again. We are not told anywhere in Scripture to give away the very means of survival that we have been blessed with. The whole point is missed if that is the conclusion you draw. Christ is talking, once again I write, about the spiritual condition of the person. Again, drawing your attention to the context, in verse 13 we have a person wanting something he has not earned and has no legal right to and yet he’s wanting his own brother to be forced into giving it to him. Sound familiar? Do the birds that are so well looked after not search for and gather food? Of course they do, and many creatures store up as well. The rich man was not lacking with God because he was rich or even because he stored up. His error was in his spiritual condition and his self-centeredness. He stored up his blessing without blessing others. He depended on his own effort without trusting God (or recognizing his stores were from God in the first place) he reasoned “to himself” and not with God. Did Jesus and His disciples give every dime they had to the poor or did they keep a money bag of their own to provide for their needs (hint, they kept a money bag). If you want to “follow my Lord the correct way” my friend, you must first discern what that way is. I’ll point you again and see if this helps. Read 2 Corinthians chapter 8. then read it again slowly and consider what is being taught. This is a good place to start in your study of stewardship. God bless, Jeff |
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42 | Sell what you have-give alms | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 212247 | ||
flyman- Good that you read the entire chapter. Now that you have done that read my post again but a bit more carefully. Also consider the wider context of Scripture, as a whole, as your reading. In my post I don't say that the theme of the chapter is charitable giving. I said the word "alms" in the verse you asked about speaks to charitable giving. That was only the first sentence. The rest of the post speaks to the theme (of the verse- not the entire chapter). There is more than one truth, point, and theme in the entire chapter. There is nothing contrary to my statement when I said Jesus is not saying to sell all of your possessions, leaving yourself without means of living and giving it all away. That statement is accurate, and again, must be understood in context of Scripture as a whole. We are to be good stewards of all we are blessed with. Consider a word study of “steward”. Four times in your post you point to "do not worry" as "A" theme. Great! It's not important that you did not get that from my post though I had hoped you would; better that you got it on your own from Scripture. I'm glad I was able to encourage you to do the work... the fruit is always sweeter when you pick it yourself :-) Not worrying about the future is a start but hardly the theme in and of itself. The "why" of not worrying about the future is what's important. Why? Because, we can have faith in God to supply all our needs. As a result we live with thanks giving, blessing as we are blessed. Your response to my post indicates that you may have a tendency to scan rather than read with focus. For example, you wrote "I have read chapter 12 over and over and there is nothing pertaining to charitable giving". Well, what pertains very specifically to charitable giving is the very verse you originally referenced, asking for help regarding its meaning. Luke 12:33-34 (NASB) 33 "Sell your possessions and give to charity; make yourselves money belts which do not wear out, an unfailing treasure in heaven, where no thief comes near nor moth destroys. 34 "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. I included verse 34 as it speaks to the focus of my original response. It's about the spiritual condition. Trusting God for all of our needs and blessing others as we are blessed; in other words, trusting without worry and charitable giving. Try reading through passages and then reading a second time a bit more slowly. Where context is considered start first with the most immediate if you’re having trouble; that is, the immediate verses before and those after. The more you learn of God's word the better you will understand individual verses and passages; that is, as they are consistent with and relevant too truth. Hope this helps, Jeff |
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43 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | jlhetrick | 212087 | ||
Thanks for further insight Val regarding your position. The clarification did help since your prior post qualified the person as a "bible teacher" and that he/she "believes" what he/she was saying about God giving "impressions that they would be healed". These things taken together, for many of our readers, might easily be viewed as a teaching and not simply an opinion. It's why I peraonally have a hard time with these type of things being mentioned on the forum unless they are better qualified. For the respected bible teacher I would ask... What makes you believe such a thing? If there is nothing in Scripture to support it why even hold it as an opinion? I'm not splitting hairs here; there are significant implications. To begin with, Scripture tells us that God can and does heal physical health problems. It also tells us that He doesn't always do so, even when we pray faithfully. When we add to it that there is an impression given by God what does that even mean? Do the sick stay sick and wait for an impression? What is the impression and how do we know we're getting it? If we believe we got it and faithfully follow through wtih the passage in James and then are not healed what does that mean? Some might believe God played a cruel joke on them by giving them an impression and then not follow through with a healing. Anyway, I believe you get the point now. I know it's difficult to present things as properly as we might hope in this format. So we're required to be even more guarded that we don't misrepresent the truth of Scripture. God bless, Jeff |
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44 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | jlhetrick | 212078 | ||
Yes Val, you are correct. The tongues given on the day of Pentecost spoken of in Acts were the different languages spoken by the different folks visiting there. It says so clearly there in the text. Regarding your comments on healing I see, once again, the dangerous practice of allowing opinions to cloud the truth. Or, it’s a case of my misunderstanding you. The “respected bible teacher” may “believe that the person who is sick is given an impression from God that they will be healed”. Is that teaching found/supported in Scripture? Jeff |
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45 | acknowleged my sin to You | Psalm | jlhetrick | 211993 | ||
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46 | acknowleged my sin to You | Psalm | jlhetrick | 211985 | ||
YELLOWROSE- NOT SURE WHAT WEB BROWSER YOU'RE USING BUT IN SOME BROWSERS YOU CAN HOLD DOWN THE CTRL KEY AND THE (PLUS SIGN) AT THE SAME TIME TO MAKE THE FONT AND EVERTYING ELSE ON THE PAGE BIGGER. HIT THE BOTH AGAIN TO MAKE IT EVEN BIGGER, AND SO ON UNTIL IT'S JUST BIG ENOUGH. WHEN YOU'RE READY TO LOG OFF JUST DO THE SAME THING BUT INSTEAD OF USING THE(PLUS) USE THE(MINUS) KEY THE SAME NUMBER OF TIMES TO RETURN IT BACK TO THE ORIGINAL VISUAL. HOPE THIS HELPS, JEFF |
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47 | Personality disorder or demon possesion? | Mark 5:15 | jlhetrick | 211917 | ||
John, you know well that it's one of those that certainly can get out of control. bandaid seemed to have a really legitimate need to explore what Scripture has to say about it so I didn’t want to ignore that while at the same time being cautious (in part due to your post) of where it might all lead. I wouldn't say "foot in mouth". I would say appropriate caution and the more eyes and thoughtful consideration the better. Thanks, Jeff |
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48 | Personality disorder or demon possesion? | Mark 5:15 | jlhetrick | 211915 | ||
Doc- as you know my career is in the field of psychiatry. I couldn't agree with you more. When I started my academic studies I was a Christian, active in the church. I was young both in age and as a Christian (at least as far as real bible study was relevant). It didn’t take me long (about two weeks) to realize that academia and Christianity were at odds. What made the struggle that much more was the knowing that God had called me to the task; I had to endure the education process in order to obtain my credentials. It wasn’t at all a waste of time. I could tell you story after story of the Lord showing up in class and speaking through me. A Christian friend once told me that he could only imagine how many had heard a portion of the word as a result of our being there. Students young and old, professors, guest speakers. I won’t go into it here of course. So, today I diagnose my patients according to the DSM IV criteria because that’s the only way I can bill their insurance provider. I treat them and provide psychotherapy and just can’t imagine how many the Lord is reaching through this. It’s a rare occasion when I have a patient that is not spiritually starved and the Lord constantly opens the door for me to witness. And He has even given me the skills to teach very practical advice that helps others to work through their issues. I’m blessed and thankful for the opportunity. God bless, Jeff |
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49 | Personality disorder or demon possesion? | Mark 5:15 | jlhetrick | 211909 | ||
That's a first Doc, but glad I can help. I know you like to do the work yourself so I'll just point you in the right direction. Acts 10:38 (KJV) 38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. “Then a demon-oppressed man who was blind and mute was brought to him, and he healed him, so that the man spoke and saw.” (Matt 12:22-23, ESV) “As they were going away, behold, a demon-oppressed man who was mute was brought to him.” (Matt 9:32, ESV “And behold, a Canaanite woman from that region came out and was crying, “Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David; my daughter is severely oppressed by a demon." (Matt 15:22, ESV) Etc… etc… etc… “It is probably a good idea to make a distinction between demon possession and demon activity or influence, though it may be little more than an academic distinction. If there is a distinction, then in demon possession the base of the demon’s operations is within the person possessed, while demon influence is from outside the person’s being. However, the symptoms or characteristics may very well be the same whether the demon is operating from within or without. Yet if you ask whether a Christian can be demon possessed, seemingly the answer should be no, simply because the indwelling of the Holy Spirit would seem to forbid a rival power like a demon from also possessing him at the same time. But if you ask whether a Christian can be affected seriously by a demon, the answer is certainly yes; the effect of such demon activity may be the same as characterizes demon possession. As stated, sometimes physical disease is the result of demon possession or activity (Mt 9:32–33), and sometimes mental derangement is due to demons (Mt 17:15), but not always (see Dan 4). ” (A Survey of Bible Doctrine, Charles C. Ryrie) That sums it up in a nut shell, however, much more can and has been said on the subject. The Scriptures give clear statements that people can be literally possessed by demons and I would agree that it seems impossible that believers would be possessed based on the truth that we are indwelled of the Holy Spirit. Paul was certainly oppressed, for example… 2 Corinthians 12:7-9 (NKJV) 7 And lest I should be exalted above measure by the abundance of the revelations, a thorn in the flesh was given to me, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I be exalted above measure. 8 Concerning this thing I pleaded with the Lord three times that it might depart from me. 9 And He said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. Hope this helps, Jeff |
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50 | Problem sharing our faith? | Ex 20:13 | jlhetrick | 211892 | ||
I'll add to the fine response John has already given. I'll say it straight, without assuming anything about you personally, and you can take from it what's helpful... if anything. Context, context, context and then context. What can be known about the sovereign and holy God without Scripture? What can be known about His ways by ripping one verse from one place and another from somewhere else and drawing the ridiculous conclusion that He, God, has contradicted Himself? As if it were possible that He might contradict Himself. A fool might think so… the enemy will want you to believe it. Taken grossly out of context and held side by side, the two verses may very well appear to be a contradiction. For example, the owner’s manual for my motorcycle reads that if the oil is below a certain line ADD OIL. If it is between the two lines DO NOT ADD OIL. If I were a fool I might rip out the ADD OIL from one sentence and then the DO NOT ADD OIL from the other sentence, hold them up side by side, and say the writer of the manual has contradicted himself. See how important context is? If you try to answer the coworker with your own reason and logic you may get it wrong. As brother John has pointed out, if you point the person to Scripture the answer is there. Of course, you will have to do some work, spend some effort, and discover just what the Bible does teach on the issue. Simply put, murder is the unlawful taking of life. This is different from the lawful taking of life. God, being the only true just One, sovereign over all things sets the standard for what is lawful and what is not; thus, the CONTEXT of Scripture that clearly illustrates the difference. Hope this is helpful, Jeff |
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51 | Same question | John 1:1 | jlhetrick | 211801 | ||
I'll offer a thought that may or may not address your question in a helpful way. Is there too much focus on the death of Christ when trying to understand this? The death of Christ is in no way the fullness of the gospel nor is it the fullness of the New Covenenant. The so-called New Testament books are the record of what the OT foretold. In focusing solely on Christ's death we leave out the virgin birth (showing Him God) the sinless life (affirming Him blameless, spotless, able to satisfy God's justice) and then the resurrection and ascension. On the cross Christ did not say something to the effect that "with this last breat it has started" (as in the start or beginning of the NT). He said, "it is finished". The promise of the NT may have been fully realized at that point, but the entire truth, beginning with the virgin birth, was the New Covenant given as promised. Great question leading to serious thinking. My answer may be totally inadequate though. God bless, Jeff |
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52 | Rev, Jesus states spew out of His mouth | Rev 3:16 | jlhetrick | 211777 | ||
John- good addition brother, thanks. Let's keep going. Jesus does want to give us an exit from our sin and Scripture promises that God will always provide an escape from temptation (1Cor. 10:13). The luke-warm person might be better understood in light of Matthew 6:24, Luke 16:13. One foot in, one foot out. Doing the hockey pockey and turning oneself about in the pursuit of wealth, prestige and self-sufficiency while going through the motions of playing church. God bless, Jeff |
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53 | Could this be the great apostasy? | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 211776 | ||
Glad no offense John. Like any forum, it takes some time to get a good feel for the group and even with the best written guidelines there may still be some question. For example, one of the guidelines here is "Postings must be Biblically based and not opposing the Bible's sole authority (sola Scriptura)..." Therefore, a response pointing to information in the Koran to support or refute something would not be in compliance with the terms of use since the Koran is not a source of truth nor authority. I suppose that asking the question like you did the second time might be appropriate and so I'll answer it. The bible does not identify the Muslim religion as the great apostasy. Another helpful hint. type the word apostasy into the Search Box (upper right) and you will get a lot to read and consider. God bless, Jeff |
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54 | How to follow, walk in the Spirit? | Gal 5:16 | jlhetrick | 211766 | ||
Excellent post! | ||||||
55 | pleasestate your undestandingof verse | Prov 16:33 | jlhetrick | 211635 | ||
Hello keliy- The intent of the "understatement" comment is best represented by Webster's 1st definition, not the 2nd. "to represent as less than is the case". As for what I am trying to teach you about being an ambassador of Christ is responsibility. I have to be honest and say, no, I really don't see your point. If you came here to study then study; don't make derogatory statements about others (denominations and individuals who have spent a lifetime of studying God's word and posses more insight and knowledge of Scripture than you and I every will). More importantly, don't take positions that you are unable to support by Scripture and then avoid responding directly to those issues when others call it to attention. That will not be tolerated long here. You make the assumption that I have been a Christian for longer than you have been alive. You might be right, I don't know... some information in your user profile would be helpful in knowing something about you. In any case, there are others much older than me here and who have been Christian's longer than I have with more formal and informal bible study. Knowing that, maybe you should be a bit more focused on learning than teaching at this point; less critical and more self-observant; less assuming and more knowing through the effort of serious bible study. I'm not really sure what to think about one claiming his humility in one sentence and denying pride in the next. I will say that true humility is obvious, not something we need to point out in ourselves. |
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56 | pleasestate your undestandingof verse | Prov 16:33 | jlhetrick | 211612 | ||
keliy- I find your entire post more than a bit assuming and, well, outrageous. It's always interesting to me when someone points the finger of accusation in everyone elses direction and then proclaims to be right and have the answers. That, as I said is interesting. But it's disturbing when that same person doesn't offer the answer, just claims to have it. You wrote regarding the differences in Calvinism and Armenianism... "Actually, both sides of that debate are wrong, God's will is somewhere in between" Perhaps referring to you as "assuming" was a bit of an understatment. Would you mind finishing your thought and enlightening the rest of us? Do you understand the concept of "lone-ranger"? |
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57 | Got Patient, Need Rest TGIF/S? | Titus 3:9 | jlhetrick | 211371 | ||
Amen brother Steve, well stated. | ||||||
58 | How does God judge and who? | Obad 1:16 | jlhetrick | 211167 | ||
Bobjones- you’re all over the place so it's hard to follow and address; so I will just pick out a couple of points where I'm either misunderstanding or not in agreement. You wrote: "So his life is the condemnation. John 3.19 says it plainly" You seem to be missing the point of the verse by not reading it through. The verse by itself clearly does not in any way suggest that His life is the condemnation. Quite the opposite. What comes after the statement of "the light has come into the world" is the truth of what is condemned. "...and men loved the darkness rather than the light, for their deeds were evil." (NASB) Evaluating that verse in the wider context of Scripture will certainly show this to be the case. It's unscriptural to hang the cause of condemnation on Christ. Regarding Philipians 2:7 I think I'm following you but not sure. It's not an uncommon mistake that some have equated the "emptying" and "taking on the the form of a bond servant" with somehow giving up a portion of who He was as God, that is, a part of His character. This is simply a false assumption resulting from a lack of understanding that Jesus Christ is, always was, and always will be God. If He would have at any time became less than the fullness of God then He would have ceased to be God. It's not possible and not taught in Scripture. Once made flesh through the virgin birth He became a man flesh and blood. He never ceased though to be God; it's the essential truth of the virgin birth. The sin nature imputed to us from Adam was not imputed to Christ. Another misconception is that Jesus could not have used divine power to resist sin. He certainly could have and it would have done nothing to lessen that he was tempted as we are. It might be argued that it could have lessened how we viewed His example since we do not have the same ability. Of course, we do have the power of God who does always provide a way of escape from temptation. Finally, the command of Scripture to resist temptation is not given to fallen man with no inclination toward God. It is, instead, given to the saved to whom He has shown mercy and freely given grace. As for what Romans makes clear... it is that all are eternally lost save for salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. Only the saved have the ability to sincerely and consistently resist sin. I'll leave it there for now as that is a lot to chew on. Hope this is helpful. Jeff |
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59 | Am I ignorant | 1 Cor 12:1 | jlhetrick | 211160 | ||
John- I am truly sorry to have offended you and assure you that it was not my intention. It was not my intention to criticize your comparison, simply to honestly disagree with it's relevance. I believe I presented my thoughts as fairly and honestly as I was capable of. I don't see the need to become verbally combative in response. We can disagree with respect for one anothers dignity. I'm not sure what you mean by my seeming not to like quite a few of your comparisons but I will apologize in advance for that as well and offer a private email dialogue to explain where I may have disagreed with you in the past. I believe the way you have handled both myself and brother Tim in this thread has been, at times, a bit over the edge and uncalled for, all things considered. Might I suggest a careful reading and consideration for editing before posting responses? In turn I will commit to the same rule. Sincerely, Jeff |
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60 | How does God judge and who? | Obad 1:16 | jlhetrick | 211158 | ||
Mr. Jones- I'm not finding your point. What is your understanding of "the life was the light of men" in John 1:4? Light illuminates in darkness. It makes clear the way. The life of Christ was and is most definitely an example for us. As for his ability to face temptation and remain sinless your missing an essential doctrine. He was born of a virgin. There was no sin in His nature and so no tendency toward sin. He did not need to employ devine, supernatural power to resist sin. Because He was and is God His very nature was in opposition to sin. He knew temptation, but his nature did not desire to fulfill it. We, on the other hand, were born of the flesh, utterly sinful, not seeking God nor what is good. (Romans 3:11-12) The necessity of a savior; we were helpless and ungodly and in need of redemption which Christ only was and is able to provide (Romans 5:6). We weren't able to resist and therefore shouldn't have been able to resist sin. There was nothing in us or even within our grasp to have enabled us to resist. But praise God for His redemption and for the example of the life of Christ. Now that He has saved us and made us new, we can resist sin and should. |
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