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1 | our 'horn' as the state of our soul? | Bible general Archive 1 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59373 | ||
Thank you. Melanie |
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2 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59132 | ||
I, too, read this thread and I would have to say the question/trap for me was my definition of backsliding. To me backsliding was sinning. It was troubling to me because I do still have my moments of sin when I do not respond as I know a Christian should whether they feel justified or not. (You don't have to comment on that.) I would have to be one of those Paul was referring to when he speaks of knowing what he wants to do (or was it should do??), then not doing it. Defining backsliding as turning away from the truth of the saving grace of Christ then I would have to say I don't even understand how it could be possible, but if it is then I know I am with Peter on it in 2Peter 2:21 because I don't believe you can lose your salvation, which means you would face God for judgement having to explain how you who knew the truth dared to deny it! |
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3 | Not my will? | Rom 5:6 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59131 | ||
I have always equated backsliding/backsliders with those Peter would rather not be in 2Peter 2:21. It seemed to me he is saying that he would rather to be one who just died ignorant of the Truth and just get tossed into the lake of fire on judgement day, then to be one who has been saved and stood to face God's judgement as a backslider. I was not equating backsliding with works though. I see your point. Thank you, Melanie |
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4 | Non-denominational theology? | Bible general Archive 1 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59130 | ||
I am a Baptist, born(culturally), and now baptized and a member of a Baptist church, but I am beginning to think I made the choice just because I was brought up in a Baptist church and don't really know alot about its 'doctrine'. I have posted a note in this thread to Kalos regarding my understanding of free will and would appreciate your critique as well, but once I am clear on that I would appreciate it a clear statement on where the Baptists stand (??) on this. Also is a tenet of faith the same as a doctrine of faith? Thanks, Melanie |
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5 | Non-denominational theology? | Bible general Archive 1 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59129 | ||
I am a Baptist, born(culturally), and now baptized and a member of a Baptist church, but I am beginning to think I made the choice just because I was brought up in a Baptist church and don't really know alot about its 'doctrine'. I have posted a note in this thread to Kalos regarding my understanding of free will and would appreciate your critique as well, but once I am clear on that I would appreciate it a clear statement on where the Baptists stand (??) on this. Also is a tenet of faith the same as a doctrine of faith? Thanks, Melanie |
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6 | This is why...? | Bible general Archive 1 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59128 | ||
I asked where on this forum would be the best place to direct this post, and you were the where. Not exactly the where I was expecting. I have as it happens read almost all of your posts, so I have a good list of Scriptures. But before I begin studying them for application, I want to make sure that my understanding of free will is correct. If you would be so kind... God is the only one with THE free will. What I would have called 'free will' is actually volition. Choice, but limited in its very nature. Or limited free will. THE free will belonging to God, in which I have no free will (or even will??) has to do with God's Will of Purpose. (Or what some posts have referred to as God's Sovereign Will??) This will is immutable, unchangeable Will and is the necessary and the determinative. (God's Purpose/Plan??) Volition, or limited free will, is choice and it was what God gave to Man (in His image and likeness?-- like but not the same??) but it is limited to God's Will of Command, but I am having to stretch (w/o much success) to equate this to what has been called in other posts God's Moral Will. This is what God wants, but He is leaving it basically to us? (And if so, then is this why there is the argument that we do not choose to be saved or not, because this is more about our walk instead of our salvation?) God's purpose (sovereign will) is immutable, never changing, so only Jesus who was 100 percent inclined towards God's Will can share it (or does He have it also??) and even then He was still limited (as Son of Man) with immutable self-determination.(??) Our limited free will, would be mutable, changeable, self-determination. This being what was given to Man. Given with the inclination being towards God. And it is with the exercise of this changeable self-determination that we changed our inclination. Being inclined towards God was our nature. Adam as he was created, inclined towards God, was without sin. Upright or righteous, so more than just innocent. (So would innocence be that debated state of being created without inclination towards God or sin??) With his disobedience Adam changed (or would it be exchanged?) his inclination to become inclined towards sin. (So is that what sin actually is? Not so much disobedience, but more the inclination of our nature towards sin instead of God?? --with sin being the noun and sins being the verb; i.e., sin being a state of being and sins (such as disobedience) being the action within that state of being) By his choice though, we were left with our nature changed. So Adam, who was created inclined towards God in his nature, was created in God's image. While we, who descend from Adam, are in his image because we inherited his nature, inclined towards evil. Okay. That's where I am with this. How far off am I? Thank you, she |
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7 | sin of Adam in the blood? | Bible general Archive 1 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59127 | ||
Kalos, hm? God does have a sense of humor. I guess He thinks I need some more work in obedience. Okay. Here goes. Thanks, Melanie |
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8 | sin of Adam in the blood? | Bible general Archive 1 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59094 | ||
where/which branch would you suggest I use to post query--specific query about "free will"? I have been perusing them from simple 'free will' search query and I can't find any postings that feel as though they would help me with my query. I am really studying this, and I have the Scriptures from all of the posts, but I am at the stage where I want to make sure I understand 'free will' before I start reading the Scriptures that attest to it (or not as it is also argued). Melanie |
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9 | sin of Adam in the blood? | Bible general Archive 1 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59078 | ||
Incredible. There in front of me all the time yet I never processed what the words were telling me. I've had five children. I did know I had a seperate blood supply from all of them while I carried them and I did know the placenta linked us while also serving as a barrier. Incredible. Beautiful. Wonderful. Thank you! God bless, Melanie |
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10 | past prophecy or future or both? | Mic 7:5 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59028 | ||
Thank you very much. I know as a Catholic you won't feel this way, perhaps that is why I would trust you with such a study program, but I don't give a hoot about doctrine. I want to learn the Word. I live in a very rural area where Bible study groups do not abound, that I have found yet anyway, and if this forum is an example, most Christians not Catholic seem to have some doctrinal ax to grind. I've got sucked into a couple of these doctrine wars and I don't like it. Was it Paul who said something like 'I know what I don't want to do, then I do it'? I have to thank Tim Moran and EdB though for walking me through to a place of peace at last with the last couple of verses of Paul that gave me trouble. I think you sent me the web site on deaconesses during part of that in fact. Thank you for that, too. I have been moving around the second link you sent me a fair amount. How I would love to be able to read some of the old manuscripts and documents! I look forward to your email of reading material. I am very good student and I love to read and learn. I am very excited! You are an answer to a prayer, Emmaus. Melanie |
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11 | Hi JesusFreak | 1 Cor 14:34 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59025 | ||
justme, I can finish and understand a novel in about 3 hours average. I have a 3.8GPA in my college classes. I spend about 5 hours a day (not constant admittedly) in prayer. I spend at least that much in Bible study on any given day. I am fortunate to be a horse trainer so much of my time is spent outdoors in mundane activities where prayer and contemplation of what I have read in the Bible is, not easy but certainly easier than if I were working in an office instead of riding or gardening. And on this forum I haven't seemed to need to draw on much except Scriptures of forgiveness, mercy and love which I know inside out. So it is not difficult at all for me to defend them, which seems to be what most of my time on this forum is spent doing. And actually, I have already gotten several gems of wisdom from you that I have added to my study books for contemplation. Part of my time today was spent reading all of your posts from your profile. So I hope your knee is healing well and I have added you and your wife to my prayer list. Where incidentally, Kalos is also listed and has been prayed for since our first interaction. And no, I'm not praying for him as someone who needs help, but as someone that I am lifting up to the Lord and as someone I hope the Lord will help me to reach Christian fellowship with or at the least learn to ignore when his posts pain me. He does not make me defensive, but I certainly seem to make him extremely offensive. I truly do regret that because I've read most of his posts by now too and there are places where his insights are fascinating, and I have admitted all along that I find his knowledge very impressive, but I see no way but prayer to change how he reacts to me. I cannot interact with someone who everytime I question or disagree with him I am suddenly anti-God or anti-Paul or anti-Bible or even anti-real Christian. But as I said, I do pray on it constantly. I do recognize that my discord with him is not in agreement with the kind of Christian attitude I try to practice, and it is vexing to my spirit. Your assumption is wrong that I am impulsive. I am anything but impulsive. I came to this forum to learn the Bible, which I always approach with humility and deep desire, and perhaps as time goes on I will find threads where free will, and the elect, and Calvinism vs Arminianism (am I spelling that right?), and Faith in Word vs CRI, aren't debated like bloody wars. I have asked most of the many questions you find so troubling on each of these trying to understand the parameters of the differences, but I am still thoroughly confused as I seem to find more similiarities on each side than any of the participants care to admit. But perhaps you are correct and I have spent too much time and too many posts trying to figure out things like free will or not, Calvinism or not, toss the fallen minister or forgive him, and should women be allowed to speak in church, though that last one I can't regret. Between Tim Moran and EdB, in the last few days, I have been finally able to put away the last of my reservations about the Apostle Paul. Which truly troubled my spirit. And with that resolved I have begun what I hope will continue to be an enlightening correspondance with Emmaus on the book of Micah. Which is what I have been studying today. I would have enjoyed learning the short but very interesting book of the Bible with you, too, but as your "there is nothing further for either of us to say", pretty much puts paid to that, I will not trouble you. Ah well, I did enjoy reading your previous posts and I am sure I will enjoy reading your future ones as well. But I promise not to bother you with my questions or comments. May God bless you, too, Melanie |
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12 | past prophecy or future or both? | Mic 7:5 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59020 | ||
I will tell you I was bred, born and raised Baptist in Georgia. I never had a clue what it meant to have a personal relationship with Jesus. Funnily enough it was my first husband, an Italian Catholic, who first brought me back to the Lord, and that because he had an even more anti-church bias than I did. It was okay for me to have a distance from church, but I loved God and he wanted to deny him completely. I decided to study Catholic doctrine to see what had pushed him to that extreme. I discovered it wasn't Catholic doctrine, but the treatment of it by his particular parish priest when he was a child. It took me 14 years to get him to accept that. And in case you're wondering about the ex-husband, the problem was adultery, but if I had been saved at the time I would not have divorced him because he did want to be forgiven. That was almost 8 years ago. Actually thinking about it, it was a Catholic priest who provided my next nudge (shove?) back to God. Andrew Greeley actually. I don't know how the Church views him, and I don't share his She for God, but his fiction work did make me understand that God loved me, even through trials. I guess that is why I have always had a fondness for the Catholic Church. But you don't have alot of them out here in my little neck of the woods. Actually I don't know of a Catholic church within 40 miles. But I was privileged to pray once at one of the side altars in Notre Dame in Paris. In any event I would have to say that it was Word of Faith ministers (as I've discovered they are just this night on this forum) who convinced me I'd better get my heart right with Jesus and put Him in control of my life. I am Baptist again, and Baptized this time, not because of any particular doctrinal beliefs, but because the church is right down the street and filled with about 90 (now) people who truly love God and each other. I am also sitting here laughing, because I have just realized that the soothing sounds on the TV that I have been listening to is EWTN's Our Lady of the Angels Daily Mass. I think he was singing Psalm 145, and now the priest is reading on John1:45-51. I do like to listen to mass. When I am agitated the way the Scriptures are sung while I am praying is like a balm to my spirit. Well, I went off on a tangent there. Sorry about that. I want to listen to the mass, so I will close. But would it be permissible for a Catholic to advise a non-Catholic on a Bible study -- course of reading? And be available for questions as I read? Thanks for thinking about it, Melanie |
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13 | past prophecy or future or both? | Mic 7:5 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59015 | ||
Yes when you read it in that context it does sound very contemporary, doesn't it? In v9 it seems as though he is including himself in this 'universally unjust', but v8 seems to be he is saying he is seperate from it. Your thoughts? But am I also reading correctly in v9 that he is speaking, as a sinner, of Jesus? And is that where I am getting the part of it but also seperate from it? How does anyone study the Bible without a teacher? Melanie |
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14 | Unmarried men pastors? | 1 Timothy | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59010 | ||
I think your question there at the end was very insightful. I have never thought of it before but it is extremely intriguing. Did you ever get any responses to it? Is there a thread on it somewhere? It feels to me like something that could be very useful in teaching young women to refrain from sex without benefit of marriage. I would be pleased to hear if you have expounded or researched any further on this question yourself. Melanie |
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15 | Hi JesusFreak | 1 Cor 14:34 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59003 | ||
You don't have to apologize to me. I think you handled yourself as a gentlemen and a Christian. I've told you before I wish I had your manner, and I am trying really hard to adopt it. My problem for the last few posts is that it is still upsetting you. But you've taught me something even in this post. You're concerned. Even in my last post I told you I had rebuked, forgiven and held no malice towards the person who'd come out of the blue to call me a gossip, etc., but I didn't take it that final step and feel concern. And maybe you're right. Maybe she did say exactly what she said because that's how she felt, and I'm giving her too much credit. But we did "off we went", didn't we? So maybe she has learned something, too. We've made one or two valid points in these postings, haven't we? And if you are right, and she hasn't learned anything, then it's not because we didn't try, is it? Back to Micah. Love, Melanie |
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16 | Hi JesusFreak | 1 Cor 14:34 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58999 | ||
I know. But I'm sitting here at my desk continuing my Bible studies, Ed. Yet I've just been slammed again by another good Christian. I responded, with what I hope is a Christian rebuke as the Lord intended when the Scriptures says, "When your brother offends thee...", I have prayed, for my forgiveness for offending someone I never intended to offend, and to forgive someone who did offend me, and now I am back in my Bible. I'm not going to give it the power to irritate me, which I would if I continued to insist I was in right. Even though I think I was in the right and was attacked unfairly by this person. I'm not letting it go for that person, I'm letting it go for me. Right now I am reading Micah. What is your take on chp 7, verse 5? I am thinking of starting a thread on it, but I'm not sure yet what my question would be. I just can't seem to get past it. I keep rereading, starting over at that verse. Melanie |
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17 | Hi JesusFreak | 1 Cor 14:34 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58995 | ||
I am afraid that I cannot allow you to encourage me to leave my Bible studies for gossip. I happen to read my Bible and do my studies at the desk where my computer sits. I search the forum for particular responses to a variety of Scriptures as I study. I actually happen to rarely comment on most of those that I read, because generally they send me back to my Bible. But when my computer sings out "you've got mail" I do take the time to respond. Just as I am with you now. I think it is commendable that you feel the need to defend Kalos, but I am a little puzzled that you would find offensive my calling someone a 'poor man' who has insulted me and questioned my faith on numerous posts. My Bible teaches me I have to forgive him, it doesn't say however, that I have to agree with him! And I am curious, if I am downgrading Kalos by being gently forthright in the light of his judgements, publically posted, how do you define your indirect accusations also questioning my walk, my faith, my sincerity, and calling me a gossip, less than serious, etc., on this public forum? Oh but of course---you aren't trying to downgrade or belittle me for all to read, are you? Only the people who don't share your opinion do that. Just being direct, Melanie |
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18 | Hi JesusFreak | 1 Cor 14:34 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58992 | ||
I'll not really argue the point, but I will ask you to think about something. Her question was posed in a discussion on how to discern what was meant when something was plainly stated. She plainly asked what did HE think...Yes, the emphasis is mine, but how do you think I got what she meant? I didn't understand at first what her problem was with you either, but I finally, I think the third time, went back to the original post and I got it. With the problem she created (so to speak) she was addressing the problem of how things can be misunderstood even when plainly spoken. The words alone are sometimes not enough to avoid misunderstanding. I could be wrong, but I think she stated her comment because she wanted Kalos to see that he could misunderstand a simple joining together of words. I think she knew she would be misunderstood, but she wanted him to see that, then she wanted you to see it when you joined in. I misunderstood her, too,but when she sent that "for the third time" post, I went back and looked at her first post to Kalos and 'ah ha', understanding dawned. It was a teaching method, and I don't know if Christian or not, but it was valid for teaching. I got it. Eventually. And I think, if tempers hadn't flared, her's too, don't get me wrong, she might have finally explained her point. But I don't know that for sure either. Love, Melanie |
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19 | Hi JesusFreak | 1 Cor 14:34 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58990 | ||
Ed, I've been going back over your posts from your profile so don't get mad at anything I am going to say because they are things I know you already know. It doesn't matter if Deb has asked your forgiveness or not. You have to forgive her. For you, you have to forgive her. For your own peace, and for your own obedience to Jesus, you have to forgive her. And if you don't, it is your problem, isn't it? My discernment tells me that she does need to ask your forgiveness for making that remark, you'll note in her post to me, she asked if I was disappointed in her, so she knows I think that she was wrong. My discernment also tells me though, that right now you are my concern. Before I replied here, I prayed to our Lord with my knowledge that I know I am not a minister and that you are more knowledgable than I about Scriptures, but that you wrote this post to me and that puts it in my lap because I can see you are hurting/angry, and I believe that your pain and anger are putting a plus in the deceivers column. You know he's enjoying this. In any event, I asked God for wisdom in replying to you so that you can feel better, restore your peace, and thumb your nose at the devil. This post is my reply after that prayer. Forgive Deb. Feel remorse at the misunderstanding, feel remorse that there was a misunderstanding at all, then let it go. When you do that, whatever her actions are or are not doing, your actions are forwarding the cause of Christ and giving the proof of the lie that all Christians are jerks. Are you mad? Love in Christ, Melanie PS And yes, I have to do this everytime after just about every post I read from Kalos. "How many times do you forgive...." |
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20 | Hi JesusFreak | 1 Cor 14:34 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 58982 | ||
That's not helpful, Deb. LOL Read some of my posts and you'll see I've been infected by the same thing. The Kalos Effect. I'm telling you, sing praise songs. Love, Melanie |
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