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1 | why don't people study the old testmant | OT general | ischus | 116060 | ||
SUEDE, THANK YOU for your time and willingness to teach me. I really do understand everything now. Unfortunately, as you know, I have encountered some oppostion on the other side of the forum, and I am going to have to leave in light of these irreconciliable issues. I may be back in a few weeks or so, but we'll see what happens. Thanks again, and my parting comments on the front page are in no way directed towards you. brothers, Justin |
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2 | ALL Scripture Inspired by God? | OT general | ischus | 116055 | ||
You know it. | ||||||
3 | ALL Scripture Inspired by God? | OT general | ischus | 116053 | ||
Thank you Colin, for joining in. I guess I am the first one to ever write a post like this on StudyBibleForum. I am equally amazed. | ||||||
4 | ALL Scripture Inspired by God? | OT general | ischus | 116052 | ||
As someone has said earlier, there are not any textual variants on theological statement or passage in the bible. I "know" what is true the same way I know what is false... by determining what other manuscripts say something different, and if that difference really says something important or just says the same thing in a different way. PLEASE understand that I believe in all of the theology and nature of God that the bible has in it. Let me take your examples here and show you the difference: Mark 16:9ff is generally accepted as not being part of the actual manuscript for several reasons: -This account does not exist in the most ancient and reliable manuscripts that are available to us (sinaiticus and vaticanus) nor is it regarded as scripture by Clement, Origen, Eusebius, or Jerome.) - The Greek here is very different from the rest of the gospel -It contains fanciful/mystical references to many beleivers doing miraculous things, when in fact only the apostles did these things (which is intersting, since even they didn't drink poison) - Matthew and Luke, whose gospels were based on Mark's material, include nothing like this in their endings. John 3:16 -Not one manuscript differs from the other in this statement. It is supported by every extant manuscript, both the oldest ones and the younger ones. -This verse is written in a way that is very familiar to John's style, and is in tact with everything else that is said about Jesus in this gospel, as well as in the rest of the bible. |
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5 | ALL Scripture Inspired by God? | OT general | ischus | 116046 | ||
Hank, When did I ever ask for someone to get mad at me or take my view of scripture so personally? It is ultimately up to you whether or not you agree with me. This Forum is about sharing different ideas, not staying where you are without any growth. As Someone has said, you always know who is losing when someone begins to get angry or call names.... Sorry to make you upset Hank. If this has become too personal and too hard for your faith to handle, then don't read my posts. Especially don't reply to them, because you know you will just get more upset, and you will keep living in fear. I know you think I am young, Mr. Hank, but I tell you that the things I speak to you I have learned from people much older than myself (and much older than you). Perhaps they are the ones with whom you are upset, and not me. You, EdB, BradK.... You guys are always jumping on me and correcting me like I am a Jehovah's Witness or something. Relax people. The world is not going to end just because ischus has a different view..... I am sorry that you don't have room in your heart for change, Hank. It's not such a bad thing. I guess some people are just afraid of what happens when you think things through without starting with your own assumptions first... but who am I to disagree with you. You have the real truth, the real bible, and the real faith. You know Hank, the best part about all of this is that IT DOESN'T MATTER. WE are both going to heaven for the same reason, and it has nothing to do with the way we see the bible. It has to do with the way we see the one spoken about in the bible. Whoever wrote it, whoever edited it, the story of Jesus is there, and it is supported by the most scientific, logical, critical scholars, as well as the most postmodern 8th grader that you know, This is what the bible is for, Hank. Not to argue over, but to agree over. I agree with you about Jesus. I don't want you to agree with me about the other stuff- this would be bad for you right now. Just stay with what you know, and Jesus Christ will have mercy on both of us. God Bless you, Hank (you too EdB and BradK) ischus |
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6 | How can moses say about his burrial? | OT general | ischus | 116037 | ||
OH- well in that case I disagree. First, I can add anything I want to the bible and give it to someone else. Am I giving them "only" God's word? Even if I am just adding stuff which explains the meaning of the text? NO. It is now God's word combined with my own words. By the way- I think that God does want Ezra 9 in the bible, and I believe that God inspired that writer. "To believe anything less would be doubting God’s ability to maintain the purity of the His own Word and would put His sovereignty in tenuous position. By that I mean, as I have said before, if we ever doubt God has failed to insure the purity of the Bible we then by default also bring a doubt into every other aspect of God." I appreciate your concern in the above paragraph for the sovereignty of God; however, I am sorry that you are unable to challenge your faith and investigate this further. I know that you claim you have read all the arguments, but you did it with a wrong spirit. The only thing that I can say about your view of the bible is that it is "cute." I asked earlier about two texts- Mark.16:9-20 and John 8:1-11. Would you please tell me HOW IN THE WORLD you can say that these texts were written and placed there by Mark and by John????!!!!!! |
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7 | who benefits most from prayer? | Bible general Archive 2 | ischus | 116018 | ||
jal- Amen brother, and the day is coming soon! God bless you [ and you bless him too :-) ] ischus |
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8 | How can moses say about his burrial? | OT general | ischus | 116016 | ||
BradK- sorry about that site- I have never even heard about it... I just got it off of a search engine that taked about documentary hypothesis. If you would have read my whole post you would have seen that I DO NOT AGREE with it, but that I wanted you to see the argument. It is pretty foolish to not even look at the information and discount it as heretical without even reading it, just because of the website. ischus |
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9 | How can moses say about his burrial? | OT general | ischus | 116014 | ||
Wrong- there is not just an 'either or' approach here. You fail to address the middle ground, where one can believe in many inspired authors who have done the will of God over time and have contributed to trasmitting his word, instead of accepting what tradition says or rejecting the bible as a whole. Sorry EdB- I disagree. I believe in the bible just as much as you do, and I use it in the same way that you do. The purpose of the bible is to bring people to God, and it still is doing a pretty good job of it. Just because most of the books of the bible don't have a message about the author's name and dated of writing doesn't mean that we can count them as not from God's men. Can we agree that the bible is God's word, and that more people than are addresed in the bible have been involved in its writing and transmission? This does not make the bible less- it makes God more! ischus |
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10 | who benefits most from prayer? | Bible general Archive 2 | ischus | 116011 | ||
jal, Hey- Thanks for that post; I really think that you are the first person that I have ever agreed with on every point in a post with more than one sentence. :) About blessing God, The bible has a lot to say about this. Look in a concordance under the word 'bless' and you will see the many times that the bible speaks of blessing the Lord. [By the way, some translations, like the NIV, will translate this word for 'bless' as 'praise' which is not wrong, but does not give the full sense of the word. Also, think about the Lord's Supper (communion, eucharist... I don't know what you call it). The cup of the Passover that Jesus used to institute the "eucharist" is called the cup of blessing- us blessing God and God blessing us... is it mutual and reciprocal. ischus |
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11 | How can moses say about his burrial? | OT general | ischus | 116008 | ||
Actually, I found something on the internet and it is basically what I would tell you anyway: http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_tora1.htm Let me be very clear to you and to everyone in this forum: I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE IMPLICATIONS OR THEOLOGICAL CONCLUSIONS OF WELHAUSSEN OR THOSE WHO SUPPORT THE DOCUMENTARY HYPOTHESIS. However, there are some textual issues which are presented and need to be taken seriously. I don't agree with the "P" document but I do agree with redactors of the biblical texts. Hope this helps.... ischus |
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12 | How can moses say about his burrial? | OT general | ischus | 116007 | ||
Fair. :) I will bring some stuff home from the library either today or tomorrow, unless I can find something on the internet. BUT- if you do agree with me on any part of what I said please tell me and save me the trouble of spending the day in the library. :) ischus |
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13 | How can moses say about his burrial? | OT general | ischus | 116005 | ||
This is truly EdB at his best! Thanks for your words here- they are both respectful and intelligent! God Bless! |
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14 | Psalm 22 Revisited......... | 1 Chronicles | ischus | 116004 | ||
jr8- Thank you so much for these words!!! Your insights are wonderful, and I agree with you here. I certainly don't think God turned his back on David, or on Jesus. Great thoughts! ischus |
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15 | How can moses say about his burrial? | OT general | ischus | 116003 | ||
BradK. Why is it that some of the pentateuch is written from the first person (Moses) and that some of it is from the third person? Does this not show that someone other than Moses was writing? In Deuteronomy, do you think that Moses was writing down his speaches while he was talking? Do you think that Moses is the author of Numbers 12:3? Is it not obvious that there are two different accounts of the creation in Gen 1 and 2? Do you think Moses wrote both of these, even though one is more traditional, poetic, with much older Hebrew, and does not contain the name Yahweh, while the other is more theological and focussed and logical? You already know that I believe that the bible is God's word- my point is that he used more people than we give credit to in order to give us his word. ischus |
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16 | who benefits most from prayer? | Bible general Archive 2 | ischus | 116001 | ||
JL, Hello! I think that God is blessed jus as much as we are in the mutual relationship the we share together. He gets hurt just as much, he rejoices just as much, and he gets blessed just as much. Although God is omnipotent, one of the thingshe can't do is make us love him or trust him or talk to him. When we do these things, he is blessed! In regard to your second statement, I don't think that numbers matter in prayer. What matters is the faith of the people. Of course God's will always overrides the faithful request if the prayer is not in what God sees as the wisest or best thing, but faith, not numbers, is definitely the key to prayer. God really cares about and seeks faith more than he does healing or physical blessing of his people. Don't get me wrong- God loves to physically bless, but what he cares about more than anything else is our faith and trust in him despite our circumstances (Lk. 18:1-8) Finally, I am comparing christians in different parts of the world. I don't remember, but I think I might have used the term 'worldview' and that is why you are unclear here, but worldview does not refer to ones religion or faith- It refers to your assumptions about the world, meaning that where you live and the environment you grow up in affects the way you perceive prayer. What I meant was that non-western people are far more spiritually-focussed and far less influenced by our naturalistic approach to God and prayer. I appreciate your comments. I don't know if this helped or made things more unclear, but whatever you need clarification in I will be happy to explain further. ischus |
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17 | is baptism essential | Acts 10:47 | ischus | 115976 | ||
how is it that baptism would be considered a work, and that Titus 3 does not refer to baptism when speaking about washing in the Spirit? | ||||||
18 | How can moses say about his burrial? | OT general | ischus | 115975 | ||
BradK, I agree with these general statements, and I do not subscribe to Welhaussen's views on the bible. It is clear that Moses was not the only author of the Pentateuch however, and to say that he was ignores both internal and external evidence. ischus |
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19 | What is Love?? | Matt 22:37 | ischus | 115915 | ||
The best way to teach is to show... Demonstrate and Educate. | ||||||
20 | is baptism essential | Acts 10:47 | ischus | 115894 | ||
Medchill- Noone has ever been saved by receiving the HS. Salvation is only through Jesus Christ. ischus |
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