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201 | wandering why the forth commandment is | Col 2:16 | djconklin | 31267 | ||
Excellant texts kalos! I wonder what God will say to those who so quickly despise them and cast them aside? |
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202 | Correcting the translation | Col 2:16 | djconklin | 66422 | ||
My study has been moved to: http://members.tcq.net/dconklin/colossians/colintro.html | ||||||
203 | Present tense | Col 2:17 | djconklin | 28272 | ||
Note that whatever Paul is referring to as a shadow he says that they "are" and not "were" which is what would be required if these things ended at the Cross. | ||||||
204 | Present tense | Col 2:17 | djconklin | 28454 | ||
Steve, 1) vs 16 isn't referring to the dietary laws because there is no law about drinks as my study shows. 2) It is highly likely that the early Christians obeyed the health laws that God set up and kept the ceremonial days mentioned in vs 16--the verse does not refer to the seventh day Sabbath. 3) While the identity of the critics of the believers at Colossae cannot be identified completely it is acknowledged that in part they were Jewish. The thrust of the criticism which vs 16 combats seems to be asceticism. 4) In reading vs 16 there are a varoiety of possibilities as to what the critics were criticizing. Not obeying as you point out is one option. Howevere, it is far more likely that the critics were not trying to impose an old way but rather were claiming that if the believers were really sincere in knowing God (part of the gnostic aspect of the heresy) then they should follow their man-made rules (partly reflected in vss 21-22). All of the above is given in far more detail in my study. |
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205 | exegetical study | 1 Thess 2:7 | djconklin | 28705 | ||
Here's a link to an exegetical study on this verse: http://home.regent.edu/davimas/articles/1Thes2_7_150.pdf | ||||||
206 | Is this verse relevant today? | 1 Tim 2:12 | djconklin | 27889 | ||
If it wasn't relevant God would not have allowed it to be preserved for us today. Witness the am't of material alluded to in the Bible that wasn't preserved. As others have noted this verse is not about power; instead it is about roles. The best book I have seen on this is Holmes, C. Raymond The Tip of the Iceberg: Biblical Authority, Biblical Interpretation, and the Ordination of Women in Ministry. (Wakefield, MI: Pointer Publications, 1994). |
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207 | Calling, contrary to scripture? | 1 Tim 2:12 | djconklin | 27890 | ||
"The injunction is based on the relationship of man and woman in the original creation (Gen. 2:18; 3:6)." 1) God made woman from the rib of a man, not the head that she should lord over him nor from the foot that she should be trodden on. 2) The same word that is used for woman ("helpmeet") is also used of God. One of the keys to proper interpretation of the Bible is to consider the whole and not just selected snippets. For example, the traditionalists will typically point to Gen 2:18 and 3:16 and yet completely ignore Gal. 3:28. |
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208 | Calling, contrary to scripture? | 1 Tim 2:12 | djconklin | 27891 | ||
"... there is neither male nor female in God ..." To be somewhat technical for I believe the mis-translation ignores something God is trying to tell us the verse (Gal. 3:28) actually says "male and female". I have not yet worked out the whole significance of this. Perhaps someone here wouldsee it. |
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209 | Should women be teaching in churches? | 1 Tim 2:12 | djconklin | 27893 | ||
"Paul often admists that what he writes is his opinion." As I recall he only said that once. Right? --- "The law says do not kill, Jesus says "do not hate." The law says do not commit adultery, Jesus says "do not lust."" All Jesus did was to show the meaning of the law--love is the fulfillment of the law. --- "When Christ came to the earth, many Jews were still practicing polygamy ..." What?!? |
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210 | New book answers ?? on women teaching | 1 Tim 2:12 | djconklin | 27894 | ||
" What do I think 1 Tim 2:12 means? I think it must mean what it says, that a woman is not allowed "to teach or exercise authority over a man."" I'm not sure which translation you are using there but the Greek word "authentien" (from which we get our word "authentic", btw) meant "usurp authority". |
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211 | What?!? | 1 Tim 2:14 | djconklin | 29859 | ||
Tim, Thanks for your comments. A couple of clarifications: Eve is according to the Hebrew an "helpmeet" not an "equal power". While there is evidence of women being prophets within the early church, witnessing to others and being deaconesses (our word) there is no evidence of any woman having a leadership role in ministry. You are somewhat correct about the word "authentien" (from which we get our word 'authentic", btw); it means "to usurp authority"--how the KJV translators knew that is a bit os a mystery. The problem I have with this partiucular verse is that on the face of it man should be the last one trusted since he knew he was wrong whereas Eve was at least deceived. A thought that just came to me is that perhaps we need to look at what Paul is not saying (i.e., that what we have is an argument in capsule form here.). If Adam had exercised his leadership role then Eve would not have been deceived and there would have been no sin in the first place. |
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212 | What?!? | 1 Tim 2:14 | djconklin | 29963 | ||
Tim, I wouldn't say that "help-meet" implies inferiority in any sense of the word. It interesting to note, as you have, that the same word to describe Eve is also used to describe God. I think I can agree with you summation; I just wish that Paul; had been more clear. From what I have read by many scholars when they looked at this verse and its surrrounding context they were certainly confused and gave very unclear counsel in regards to it all. |
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213 | What?!? | 1 Tim 2:14 | djconklin | 30074 | ||
Tim, I must confess that since I have put some more thought into it I'm going to have to back off accepting your version of what is being said. This is because it basically ignores what the text says. Paul's point seems to be on who knew what when being tempted. BTW, thanks for the kind spirit of your responses--it is a real breath of fresh air! |
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214 | Can a woman speak in church? | 1 Tim 2:15 | djconklin | 27896 | ||
Very well put, richilou! | ||||||
215 | Can a woman speak in church? | 1 Tim 2:15 | djconklin | 27897 | ||
"Semantics holds a major key to one's ability to extract proper meaning from the written word. In no other body of writing that I can think of is this more important than in Scripture." Well put Hank! |
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216 | Can a woman speak in church? | 1 Tim 2:15 | djconklin | 27898 | ||
Interesting points Nolan. However, whenever Paul uses the word "sozo" it always refers to salvation from sin. So, contrary to the speculations in the note in the Disciples Bible this verse does say that women will be saved through child-bearing. So, what does Paul mean here? As a side-note it was interesting to see how quickly the traditionalists dealt with this verse(if at all!). |
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217 | Can a woman speak in church? | 1 Tim 2:15 | djconklin | 27906 | ||
Robert, Thanks for the quick and kind response! If Paul had meant "preserved" then he could have used the word "zoogoneo" as in Luke 17:33 or "suntereo" as in Matt. 9:17 or Luke 5:38. The only time where I can find that the word "sozo" "means" preserve is in 2 Tim 4:18 and even there it is talking about ultimate preservation: "And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom ..." and not about preservation frompain in this world. --- The word "teknogonia" means "childbearing"; it has no other meaning. Again, thanks for your kind response. |
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218 | Can a woman speak in church? | 1 Tim 2:15 | djconklin | 28269 | ||
"In a prior verse, you cited Galatians 3:28 as saying that there is no distinction between men and women in Christ.. If that is so, and if women are saved through child-bearing (by use of the Greek word "sozo"), then are men condemned to hell because they cannot bear children???" Nolan, I didn't say any such thing. Please re-read the post more carefully. BTW, I made the same point in a sermon. |
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219 | Can a woman speak in church? | 1 Tim 2:15 | djconklin | 28460 | ||
I'm still not sure Nolan (it has been a couple of years since I looked at this topic in some depth--see the bibliography on my web page). I do know that I haven't seen any convincing explanation as of yet. It seems to me that one cannot really do justice to vs 12 until one can adequately explain both vss 14 and 15--something the traditionalists have yet to do (I really get suspicious when people try to change the words from what God's chosen vessels have writen). | ||||||
220 | Can a woman speak in church? | 1 Tim 2:15 | djconklin | 28468 | ||
Not yet; still tossing it around in my mind. Maybe all the reading I did wasn't enough? | ||||||
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