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61 | For all on the forum..READ this | Phil 4:13 | bubbatate | 53624 | ||
Awesome, Jeshua.....thank you!!!!!! Bub |
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62 | Eternal Security is it possible? | 2 Tim 1:12 | bubbatate | 54170 | ||
Hi Kalos.... In flipping channels one day I stopped at the Catholic channel briefly to see what they were up to, Mother so and so was quoting John 2:19 "They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, in order that it might be shown that they all are not of us." She was directing the verse to Protestants....as to how they got so far afield.....AMAZING! Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb.....Bub |
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63 | What commandments to keep? | 1 John 2:4 | bubbatate | 54519 | ||
Hi Kalos, I have aired exactly the same sentiments and have been railed against as a liar, heretic, judaizer and legalist and my forum membership has been threatened. I just happen to love the word of the LORD above doctrine and this is seen as heresy. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb.......Bub |
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64 | What commandments to keep? | 1 John 2:4 | bubbatate | 54575 | ||
Dear Brad, I have been asked by others the same questions, albeit from a position of hostility…..as you request is calm and reasonable I would be more than happy to give you my “testimony”……a blurb on the members’ profile page would not present a clear picture. On my first Sunday on earth I was in church. I was raised in Evangelical and Reformed…..now UCC. “Church” was an absolute every Sunday and for every other church function, but there was no “God-talk” in the home throughout the week. In college I attended a Lutheran church as there was no UCC……the pastor died and his replacement was boring….my friend invited me to her Catholic Church. I was impressed with the solemnity……there wasn’t a lot of socializing going on. I went to classes to see what it was all about…..I became a Catholic. I first read the Bible cover to cover when in college. I truly loved God and was seeking Him. I became a Catholic and married a Catholic…..after seven years and two wonderful children, and every Sunday in church, my husband divorced me to pursue his philandering on a full time basis……he paid the “church” thousands of dollars for an annulment in lieu of child support. I knew this was not in the Bible…….exit Catholicism. I tried other churches and was left cold……I started doing cable church……I was exposed to yet another facet of Christianity. I learned a lot and became a big Charles Stanley fan as well as all the other big boys (Kennedy etc.). I was reading the Bible again. During a one year stint in Nevada, I felt the need to get real serious with the LORD….I acknowledged that any problem I had in my life was of my own making and it was because I was not following the LORD, this was in my living room, not in a church…….I poured out my heart to the LORD and received an incredible peace…..there was not enough tension in my body to keep me on the chair…I slithered to the floor. I professed my love for the LORD and, He said to my spirit (I don’t know how else to put it)…..you can’t love what you do not know…..I went back to Genesis and began a voracious study…..and I’ve been studying with a passion ever since. I began attending a Church of God and then Calvary Chapel. I listened to Christian radio from rising to retiring…..I heard a mind blowing message from Irwin Lutzer as to how the “Holy Roman Church” brought paganism into Christianity to make it more palatable to the pagans they conscripted….I sent for his tape series and became adamantly against anything that hinted at paganism…..goodbye Christmas……goodbye Easter…..I kept them as my personal sentiments not wanting to offend my Christian brothers and sisters because, after all, they were sincere believers, and much more spiritual than I.....I wasn't comfortable making waves. Upon returning home from Nevada, my niece invited me to her church….Assemblies of God. Great music, dynamic pastor etc. I was baptized and became an enthusiastic member. The Toronto revival and later the Brownsville revival kicked in…..there was a lot of revival enthusiasm. I thought it was exciting yet on another level disturbing……I was searching the scriptures for verification of what was going on and finding none…..of course the take was that I was just not on the same Holy Spirit level as everyone else which is why I wasn’t totally getting it. continued next…….. |
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65 | What commandments to keep? | 1 John 2:4 | bubbatate | 54576 | ||
continued from previous…………… I got a flyer for a two week prophecy conference at a nearby church…..I was extremely interested in prophecy and decided to go….if it was junk I just wouldn’t go back. When I got to the church I found, to my chagrin, that it was an SDA church. The first night of the conference was really interesting and I decided to stick it out….however, I went right home to get my “Sunday is the Sabbath” ducks in a row because I was sure that 7th day issue would come up. I went to my trusty Nave’s Topical Bible to get my ammo. All the “Sabbath” passages were listed, followed by a “Christians and the Sabbath” segment. There were a few resurrection passages cited plus a statement that went more or less, “Sunday is called the Lord’s Day in the Revelation.” I about flew off my chair……that was an out and out lie! I was in total despair……is there such flimsy evidence for Sunday that they actually had to lie? How could I go back to the SDA’s with this? I did a massive search of the scriptures and the world as I knew it totally collapsed……can Charles Stanley be wrong? Can Billy Graham be wrong? Why didn’t D. L. Moody get it? I called my assistant pastor (my nephew-in-law), I was sure he would have the missing piece. I explained my dilemma……he gave me the usual song and dance about resurrection day is now the Sabbath……I said, “I know…..but I have to prove it.” After an hour on the phone he could not scripturally verify anything……and his bottom line was, “It’s not important, it’s not worth my time.” That statement hit me like a sucker punch. Nave’s lied…..and now this. I ran my dilemma past many of the “Spirit filled” pillars of the church……all I got was nonsense……I never felt so alone in all my life. There was no doubt in my mind now that the 7th day is the Sabbath and that main stream Christianity was wrong and had no interest correcting it……I had been duped. I was no longer confused….I was hopping mad! I finished the conference at SDA and continued there….they taught that the 7th day was changed to the 1st day by the “Holy Roman Church” who did so to accommodate the pagans whose big day was Sunday (I’ve since learned that the practice began long before as a “delete all things Jewish” movement…..the Romans merely codified it.) SDA was adamantly against mixing paganism with Christianity, I was already on that page, so it looked like I found a home of like minded believers………until two months later when they announced that they were getting their Christmas choir together. Another smack upside the head. You say paganism has to go and you do Christmas? Goodbye SDA, you also speak with a forked tongue (and as for the Ellen White thing………). Now I’m the lone ranger again……I cried out to the LORD……..I know your word is true and I know Your Sabbath is the true one and I know that Christianity has been tainted, but I can’t find anyone else willing to throw out all the garbage. I asked for conformation that I was not the only one in the world who had so concluded. This was a Saturday….my last day at SDA…..I had nowhere to go the next Sabbath. That Monday I ran into a Christian friend……I explained my plight……within five minutes he concurred that the 7th day is the Sabbath…….he then said, “Ya know, I just heard that a “messianic” group is organizing and will begin meeting next Saturday.” Halleluyah!! Confirmation! I was there on the first Shabbat five years ago and have been there ever since. I’ve been challenged to name the name of the group with whom I associate……..we have no label……”Messianic” has already been taken and has certain connotations we chose not to identify with. My “will the real Sabbath please stand up” experience has led me to challenge everything….main line Christianity is wrong on the Sabbath and Christmas…..now you’ve got to prove EVERYTHING to have any credibility with me…….I’m not buying pat statements, doctrines and sacred cows that cannot be proven with a “thus saith the LORD”. Unscriptural tap dancing is disgusting, sometimes laughable, and I will challenge it at every turn……in turn, I welcome challenges………and will give chapter and verse in defense of my position......mere opinions will be stated as such. As for inerrancy of scripture….my position is this. Y’shua said (to Satan, in fact), "It is written: Man does not live on bread alone, but on EVERY WORD THAT COMES FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD. " (Mt 4:4). He didn’t say Paul’s word, or anybody elses’. If anything contradicts a “thus saith the LORD” I’m not including it in my theology. I do not have to give an account to Paul, Christianity or any man or I would be in big trouble……which many on the forum have already concluded that I am. I hope I was able to communicate with lucidity……thanks Brad. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb…..Bub |
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