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281 | How Big is God? | Phil 4:19 | Val | 208031 | ||
Yes I provided a complete passage in Ecclesiates. Chapter 3 - A time for Everything. You may also search the posts regarding "War". There are scriptures references there. When you say I have little faith, that is offensive. What kind of a reaction would you give to someone who told you that? I never said it was ok to lie. I said there are violent crime situations where I would lie if it was for a greater good. Please stop. |
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282 | How Big is God? | Phil 4:19 | Val | 208021 | ||
Please stop berating people who have a different view than you. | ||||||
283 | the lie | Bible general Archive 4 | Val | 208020 | ||
Just because people happen to disagree with a point of view does not give you the go ahead to judge our motives. You cannot see our hearts so your implication is false. It is very offensive. Please stop. | ||||||
284 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | Val | 208019 | ||
Thank you Bowler for your encouragement. I believe life is different from a women's point of view. God put within us the instinct to do all we can to protect the children and defenseless and innocent. Hopefully, nothing like this would ever happen to any of us but if it did, actually noone can say what they would do in a situation like this. Our instincts kick in in violent situations. To condemn anyone for trying to defend themselves is self righteous. Even the best of the best is still a sinner in God's eyes. It is our hope that honesty and obedience to God will never put us in situations like we have discussed. Judging others motives is a sin too because only God can see the heart. Even in a court of justice both sides are heard and then a verdict is reached. If you look at it that way which is how I do, justice is served when we protect the innocent and defenseless. A look at the people's lifes who have been destroyed by violent crimes is something I consider. Does bad things happen to good people? It sure does. Is it wrong to lie, kill, or break any of the commandments? Yes, but is it justified. Only in extreme cases such as a life and death situation. Will most of us in our lifetimes ever become involved in a situation like this? Probably not. But am I going to verbally beat someone up for doing all they can to save themselves or their loved one from torture, unspeakable heidous acts from evil men? No I am not. Will God judge our actions? Yes, as I have been saying lets leave that to Him. Enough said Blessings, Val |
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285 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | Val | 208011 | ||
When the scripture does not say, we should not go beyond scripture because that is speculation. If it was plain then it would not be hotly debated. No I do not want to debate. Just saying the scripture does not say if Saul was saved or not. We'll know when we get there. God is the only one who can rightly judge the heart and only He is divine so to say something scripture does not say is speculation. Read what David said about Saul after Saul's death. | ||||||
286 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | Val | 208008 | ||
John, The bible does not tell us if Saul was saved or not. Blessings, Val |
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287 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | Val | 208005 | ||
I rather lie. You'd rather kill. Self-defense. Humm. In my case no one died. In your case there's a body. Oh well and yours was the better way. Ok got it. End of discussion. | ||||||
288 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | Val | 208000 | ||
The same principle that you use "If someone came into my house and tried to rape my family, they would meet two friends of mine-Smith and Wesson :-). In the context of war and self defense. Picking up a gun would make one think that the end result of that could possible end in death of someone. If I am following you correctly you are saying you would kill someone to protect your family. If that right? You did say "Self-defense and/or defense of others is not a sin". So is there a commandment to not kill? Of course there is. But you would condemn me for using the same principle but in a different way, lying - to protect my family. Well, you will probably be questioned by the police and may if things don't go well end up facing a charge of murder. But you did it to protect your family, right? How is that different from lying to protect my family? Its not. Again I admonish you to use your common sense and quit trying to prove a point. No one said that lying or using a gun is the only way out. No one questioned the ability of God. No one ever said that. Your being a legalist now. Stop it. |
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289 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | Val | 207990 | ||
Dear Tim, Not every person has guns in their homes so plan B has to go into effect. Again, common sense is the order of the day. God is our judge. He sees the motives of the heart. Let's leave it to Him. Blessings, Val |
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290 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | Val | 207988 | ||
Eccl 3:1 There is an appointed time for everything. And there is a time for every event under heaven-- Eccl 3:2 A time to give birth and a time to die; A time to plant and a time to uproot what is planted. Eccl 3:3 A time to kill and a time to heal; A time to tear down and a time to build up. Eccl 3:4 A time to weep and a time to laugh; A time to mourn and a time to dance. Eccl 3:5 A time to throw stones and a time to gather stones; A time to embrace and a time to shun embracing. Eccl 3:6 A time to search and a time to give up as lost; A time to keep and a time to throw away. Eccl 3:7 A time to tear apart and a time to sew together; A time to be silent and a time to speak. Eccl 3:8 A time to love and a time to hate; A time for war and a time for peace. Eccl 3:9 What profit is there to the worker from that in which he toils? Eccl 3:10 I have seen the task which God has given the sons of men with which to occupy themselves. Eccl 3:11 He has made everything appropriate in its time. He has also set eternity in their heart, yet so that man will not find out the work which God has done from the beginning even to the end. Eccl 3:12 I know that there is nothing better for them than to rejoice and to do good in one's lifetime; Eccl 3:13 moreover, that every man who eats and drinks sees good in all his labor--it is the gift of God. Eccl 3:14 I know that everything God does will remain forever; there is nothing to add to it and there is nothing to take from it, for God has so worked that men should fear Him. Eccl 3:15 That which is has been already and that which will be has already been, for God seeks what has passed by. Eccl 3:16 Furthermore, I have seen under the sun that in the place of justice there is wickedness and in the place of righteousness there is wickedness. Eccl 3:17 I said to myself, "God will judge both the righteous man and the wicked man," for a time for every matter and for every deed is there. Bowler, this is the passage for my previous post to you. A word study on evil, righteous, justice, innocent, defenseless might be a good place to start if you want to pursue this topic. Blessings, Val |
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291 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | Val | 207985 | ||
I believe the "if we break one sin, we break them all" topic is in reference to salvation. There are degrees of sin. We have different punishments for different crimes legally. A child rapist is certainly more evil than someone who passes a bad check. The same principle goes in a time of war or personal crisis. An evil person may want to rape the women and children of the house, am I to expect the men of the house to idlely stand by and say well yeah they are in the upstairs bedroom to the right. Duh. I would expect them to do everything in their power lie, cheat, steal, whatever it took to save the women and children in this particular situation. Now God has said we may protect our families and our country so I take that to mean protect them. Its like the former illustration which is the worse the rape of children and women or passing a bad check? I would think very little of a person who did not do all he could to protect the defenseless and innocent. Now if we lived in a perfect world where there would be no evil people, life would be simple but its not so again we must use our common sense. It was given to us for a reason. When evil people threaten our lives and the lives of our loved ones, we can defend ourselves. War is ugly. We do the best we can. God is our judge not our fellow man. So don't sweat the small stuff bowler. Press on. Blessings, Val |
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292 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | Val | 207923 | ||
Bowler, I agree with you. I heard someone say one time that God does not ask us to check our brains at the door when we come in to church nor should we check them at the door when lives are at stake. That is why I love to read the OT stories of people. There you see where God protects his people in all sorts of ways and sometimes it is to mislead the enemy. I believe he raised up Rahab to protect Israel. Common sense is common sense no matter how you cut it. Walk in the spirit and use common sense sounds good to me. | ||||||
293 | Where and when did Gentiles originate? | Bible general Archive 4 | Val | 207831 | ||
Cheri, thank you for your response. I pray you will have a good day. Blessings, Val | ||||||
294 | Where and when did Gentiles originate? | Bible general Archive 4 | Val | 207823 | ||
Cheri, did you get my last post to you and was that what you were looking for or did I miss your question? | ||||||
295 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207744 | ||
Dear Tim, I apologize I did not mean to imply you are unethical. What I meant is that all of us are colored by that which we were taught as a child, teenager from others. Usually, however a person grows up, they remain that way as an adult in most cases. I am talking about denominations. So not only you but me, and I believe others are influenced by how our parents, loved ones, taught us. My point was that you and I and others must be objective when we approach scripture. We all have presuppositions that cause us to lean in one direction or another. I believe it takes an objective in-depth study as I have pointed out in other posts, as well as, a consideration of those who have studied before us and those in this age that devote their lives to the study of the bible; all this is available to us at this time. I am thankful to the Lord to be living in a day of so much grace. Now I will get back to the joy of studying His word. I am afraid I spend too much time on here. Please take no offense. I apologize if I came across that way. Many blessings; Val |
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296 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207742 | ||
Doc, thank you for your thoughts. Many blessings, Val | ||||||
297 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207682 | ||
Dear Pastor Tim, Thank you for the response. Any time - tomorrow or later is fine. May God bless you, Val |
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298 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207678 | ||
Hello Cheri, I use the NASB. When I order a bible study on a book of the bible from Precept.org the observation worksheet is included in the workbook in NASB version. I think you can print out observation worksheets from the Preceptaustin site. They are double spaced and give plenty of room to make notes and color the words. Then after you are satisfied with what you have done you can transfer it to your bible if you prefer. I personally just use the workbook. There are several steps in the workbook one of them being word studies. There are many dictionaries out there. I use Vines and Ziodiates. Also you may also use different versions of the bible. In inductive study you are asked to do the observation first before you go to commentaries. I would say since some bibles are paraphrased they should be treated as commentaries. The defination indeed adds to the meaning of a sentence. There is much, much work that goes into inductive study so that when you finish the study you know that you know what you have studied. I also have The Zondervan Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible by Tenny. They have come out with a newer version available this fall I believe. I would like to have it. I have the older version. It is a five volume collection. I like books. Yes you could check major "versions". Any research that would aid you in your study is encouraged. We are only limited by time. After each lesson is done in the workbook, ideally you would gather together with others and discuss what you studied for a suggested hour. And finally you watch a one hour tape of teaching which is optional but I gain more if I watch or listen to the teaching. Your attention is constantly going to the word to see what the bible says. I am not in a group right now I do my workbook at home and watch the tape after I finish a lesson. Its great for me. Blessings, Val |
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299 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207669 | ||
Dear Pastor Tim, Beginning in Hebrews 5:11 - 6:12 I mark the group of people called the recepients in orange. They are referred to as "you, us, brethren". Other groups of people are marked in their own colors. But is a word of contrast. I mark it in a different color. Therefore is a word of conclusion I mark it in a different color. Let us and better are other key words I mark in a different color. This is some of what is included in an "observation worksheet". Now concerning your question about Verse 11 - I marked "you" in orange. The word "those" is not in verse 11. I would have to go back and study John inductively to comment on that cross reference but a question does arise, do you feel the John passage you quoted shows "a turning away"? Could you tell me what you believe the verses in Hebrews 6:7-8 mean? Do I understand you the "partakers of the Holy Spirit" is the phrase that you base your view on or are there other passages in the bible that support your view? So the phrase "it is impossible to renew them again to repentance" - your view is they repented. I see but did they? That is the question. Doesn't that make your view even more difficult? Because if you can turn away isn't that saying you can't come back? How do you explain that perspective? In verse 9 it starts with a contrast (the word but) of "those" who will be burned and "you" who show love... The "those" in verse 12 are explained as "those who through faith and patience inherit the promise". So this is a different "those" than the those who will be burned up because of the description. Blessings, Val |
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300 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207659 | ||
Dear Pastor Tim, Thank you for you post. Although we disagree I respect your opinion. As a sister in Christ I do see that it would cost you to change your opinion on this passage. Factors like this might lean you to a particular perspective. However, I have always been taught that when I am wrong I am to line up my life with the teaching of scripture rather than lining up scripture with my life. I hope you are not offended by this. It is my wish that you as well as everyone on the forum grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. Its been a pleasure taling with you. Blessings - Val |
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