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141 | Does God plunge mortals into ignorance? | Obad 1:8 | Reighnskye | 130854 | ||
J Chrichton, You reference that the Spirit of God guides even small children to behave in obedience to God, even prior to the full formation and honing of their cognitive abilities. I'm assuming that you are saying that God's Spirit guides us even from the point of our physical birth. You then reference that if we are subsequently obedient to this guidance, that our relationship with Jesus begins to form. My specific question to you would be if it is necessary to hear a spoken gospel message (with the four spiritual laws, etc.) in order to become converted to Christ? Or could we rather as children just be obedient to the Spirit's guidance and therefore bypass hearing and responding to an actual gospel message (with four spiritual laws, etc.)? Are you saying that a child can just grow up holy from youth, without ever hearing the gospel message, and still go to heaven? It's my personal view that small children born in sin are already blinded and deafened to spiritual realities from the very womb. And any lessons that they recieve in early childhood are altogether carnally-oriented, except it be by some rare form of divine intervention. ---- "This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. "For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. "But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God." (John 3:19-21 NAS95) RS |
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142 | Does God plunge mortals into ignorance? | Obad 1:8 | Reighnskye | 130885 | ||
Aaron, I guess that I'm under the impression that humanity born in sin never really possessed the higher wisdom in the first place. Children from the womb lack the light of spiritual awareness, and therefore cannot discern between good and evil without the Law of Moses to eventually instruct them. I fully agree with what you say in your post here. I guess a better way that I may articulate my question would be as follows: Does God elevate mortals to the light of spiritual awareness prior to their rejection of the gospel? Or do people usually merely reject the gospel with no more than the Law of Moses to enlighten them? ---- For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures. (Romans 1:18-23 NAS95) Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. For indeed Jews ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom; but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness, but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men. For consider your calling, brethren, that there were not many wise according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble; but God has chosen the foolish things of the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to shame the things which are strong, and the base things of the world and the despised God has chosen, the things that are not, so that He may nullify the things that are, so that no man may boast before God. (1 Corinthians 1:20-29 NAS95) |
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143 | Does God plunge mortals into ignorance? | Obad 1:8 | Reighnskye | 131015 | ||
Angel, Your words in your last post here are like poetry. :) RS |
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144 | Does God plunge mortals into ignorance? | Obad 1:8 | Reighnskye | 131189 | ||
Aaron, You write a lot of thought-provoking notes here. Thank you for your indepth answers. You reference that even the natural creation declares the glory of God. I have to wholeheartedly agree. I guess what I'm trying to get at (or conversely understand better myself) is that an adult's rejection of the gospel is largely made via one's own earthly mind and mortal level of understanding. Indeed all wisdom originates from God, both spiritual and earthly. Nonetheless, I personally tend to view the large majority of supposed conversions and/or rejections of the gospel as being made according to the earthly type of knowledge, wherein the volition is somewhat compromised due to lack of spiritual awareness. I have to ponder some of the things that you write in your post here a bit more, insofar as I need to isolate some inconsistencies in either my own belief system or in some of the notions presented on these boards. It is my personal perspective that the majority of religious conversions and/or rejections of the gospel are done on a shallow level of earthly psuedo-consciousness, thereby largely lacking any degree of eternal impact. ---- I said to myself concerning the sons of men, "God has surely tested them in order for them to see that they are but beasts." For the fate of the sons of men and the fate of beasts is the same. As one dies so dies the other; indeed, they all have the same breath and there is no advantage for man over beast, for all is vanity. All go to the same place. All came from the dust and all return to the dust. Who knows that the breath of man ascends upward and the breath of the beast descends downward to the earth? (Ecclesiastes 3:18-21 NAS95) Reighnskye |
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145 | Does God plunge mortals into ignorance? | Obad 1:8 | Reighnskye | 131209 | ||
Aaron, Thanks again for all of the great comments. You've given me a bit to think about. Reighnskye |
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146 | Does God author the death of nations? | Obad 1:9 | Reighnskye | 130697 | ||
Here is another rephrasing of my question. Does God ever inspire war, either in ancient times or today? Or even in time future? ---- For many fell slain, because the war was of God. And they settled in their place until the exile. (1 Chronicles 5:22 NAS95) ---- I could not find the 1 Kings 19:35 reference that you had suggested, insofar as the chapter lacks that many verses. |
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147 | Does God author the death of nations? | Obad 1:9 | Reighnskye | 130855 | ||
Here we see that the higher angels directly fight a deathly war with a portion of mankind, defending the divine descendants against destruction. And what archon issued the order? Michael the archangel? ---- Then it happened that night that the angel of the LORD went out and struck 185,000 in the camp of the Assyrians; and when men rose early in the morning, behold, all of them were dead. (2 Kings 19:35 NAS95) |
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148 | How will the Day of the Lord appear? | Obad 1:15 | Reighnskye | 130699 | ||
I'll work on picking up a nice lexicon. Thanx. I once had a copy of the NASB Greek/Hebrew Key Study Bible by Zodiates, which gave the primary strong's numbers right within the bible verses there. | ||||||
149 | How will the Day of the Lord appear? | Obad 1:15 | Reighnskye | 130700 | ||
So on the Day of the Lord, the whole earth is going to dissolve with intense heat? Does this event occur before, during or after Christ's millennial reign? ---- But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up. Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat! But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells. (2 Peter 3:10-13 NAS95) |
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150 | How does God judge and who? | Obad 1:16 | Reighnskye | 130811 | ||
We clearly see here that often the recipients of God's wrath are composed of the assembly of the church. This particularly includes those members of the church who are more sinful and in need of greater pruning. In fact, the particular verses that you had provided seem to say that God kills some of the members of the church through various means. Such here constitutes examples of God's judgments upon the church. This therefore raises another question. Does God kill church members today as He did in the early apostolic church (as per your verse references)? Further, what biblically historical methods of killing seem to be the most predominant, when God kills church members? Medical conditions? Earthquakes? War? Lightning bolts? Fire from the sky, etc? ---- But a man must examine himself, and in so doing he is to eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself if he does not judge the body rightly. For this reason many among you are weak and sick, and a number sleep. But if we judged ourselves rightly, we would not be judged. But when we are judged, we are disciplined by the Lord so that we will not be condemned along with the world. (1 Corinthians 11:28-32 NAS95) If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask and God will for him give life to those who commit sin not leading to death. There is a sin leading to death; I do not say that he should make request for this. All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not leading to death. (1 John 5:16-17 NAS95) But a man named Ananias, with his wife Sapphira, sold a piece of property, and kept back some of the price for himself, with his wife's full knowledge, and bringing a portion of it, he laid it at the apostles' feet. But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back some of the price of the land? "While it remained unsold, did it not remain your own? And after it was sold, was it not under your control? Why is it that you have conceived this deed in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God." And as he heard these words, Ananias fell down and breathed his last; and great fear came over all who heard of it. The young men got up and covered him up, and after carrying him out, they buried him. Now there elapsed an interval of about three hours, and his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. And Peter responded to her, "Tell me whether you sold the land for such and such a price?" And she said, "Yes, that was the price." Then Peter said to her, "Why is it that you have agreed together to put the Spirit of the Lord to the test? Behold, the feet of those who have buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out as well." And immediately she fell at his feet and breathed her last, and the young men came in and found her dead, and they carried her out and buried her beside her husband. And great fear came over the whole church, and over all who heard of these things. (Acts 5:1-11 NAS95) |
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151 | How does God judge and who? | Obad 1:16 | Reighnskye | 130856 | ||
Roger, Are you saying that God caused the 911 calamity to justly happen upon the United States, due to the "perverted system of law" that we have? You cited Deut 32:39 to support this claim, in that we have over-extended God's mercy. ---- 'See now that I, I am He, And there is no god besides Me; It is I who put to death and give life. I have wounded and it is I who heal, And there is no one who can deliver from My hand. (Deuteronomy 32:39 NAS95) RS |
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152 | Will their be a Church remnant? | Obad 1:17 | Reighnskye | 131190 | ||
Sold Out, It is very pleasant to read all of the scripture references that you provide. I'm wondering what particular judgments await the church, that only a remnant will be left. Have the majority already occurred or are there many more to come? ---- For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? AND IF IT IS WITH DIFFICULTY THAT THE RIGHTEOUS IS SAVED, WHAT WILL BECOME OF THE GODLESS MAN AND THE SINNER? (1 Peter 4:17-18 NAS95) Reighnskye |
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153 | Should nations own land territories? | Obad 1:20 | Reighnskye | 130813 | ||
So now if the nation of Israel was deeded land from the Tigrus to the Nile, during ancient Old Testament times, should they still possess that land today? And if so, then by what means? War? Or had this deed expired after the many times that ancient Israel had fallen away from God to serve other gods? |
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154 | Should nations own land territories? | Obad 1:20 | Reighnskye | 130816 | ||
You reference that our founding fathers, theologians and philosophers before them based the reason for individual (and therefore group) property rights on the Eighth Commandment (of the Ten Commandments) of the Law of Moses. Assumedly, they believed that the Law of Moses still had some effect and influence on their lives. I guess I'm not quite clear here on how the Eighth Commandment ties into individual and/or group property rights. ---- "You shall not steal. (Exodus 20:15 NAS95) 'You shall not steal. (Deuteronomy 5:19 NAS95) |
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155 | Should nations own land territories? | Obad 1:20 | Reighnskye | 131191 | ||
Doc, I guess that I've always viewed the opposite converse of the Eighth Commandment to be something like "Thou Shalt Give" as opposed to "Thou shalt Own". Hence, the giving up of individual property rights, wherein we do not cling to this earth's possessions. Please note the following scriptures. ---- and they began selling their property and possessions and were sharing them with all, as anyone might have need. (Acts 2:45 NAS95) And the congregation of those who believed were of one heart and soul; and not one of them claimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were common property to them. (Acts 4:32 NAS95) Reighnskye |
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156 | Should nations own land territories? | Obad 1:20 | Reighnskye | 131210 | ||
Tim, I agree that these are all excellent points that are made. I'm not so much denying that property rights were issued to people in the Old Testament Law of Moses. Indeed, they are aplenty. My concern rather is to what extent we should still be trying to live by that law today. Jesus gave a newer set of teachings to his direct disciples which were later performed within the early church. While the Old Testament affords a great many rights to the righteous, I believe that Christ teaches sinners to embrace a less material perspective, which is rather uncommon in today's society. Here is my own paraphrase: "If we cannot give up our right to own things, then they do indeed own us". ---- Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." But when the young man heard this statement, he went away grieving; for he was one who owned much property. (Matthew 19:21-22 NAS95) Then Peter said to Him, "Behold, we have left everything and followed You; what then will there be for us?" And Jesus said to them, "Truly I say to you, that you who have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on His glorious throne, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. "And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or farms for My name's sake, will receive many times as much, and will inherit eternal life. (Matthew 19:27-29 NAS95) When Jesus heard this, He said to him, "One thing you still lack; sell all that you possess and distribute it to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." But when he had heard these things, he became very sad, for he was extremely rich. (Luke 18:22-23 NAS95) Peter said, "Behold, we have left our own homes and followed You." And He said to them, "Truly I say to you, there is no one who has left house or wife or brothers or parents or children, for the sake of the kingdom of God, who will not receive many times as much at this time and in the age to come, eternal life." (Luke 18:28-30 NAS95) and they began selling their property and possessions and were sharing them with all, as anyone might have need. (Acts 2:45 NAS95) For there was not a needy person among them, for all who were owners of land or houses would sell them and bring the proceeds of the sales (Acts 4:34 NAS95) Reighnskye |
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157 | "and on their heart I will write it" | Matt 5:17 | Reighnskye | 135462 | ||
Kalos, Here is post ID# 115286 as you suggested: "NASB Jeremiah 31:33 "But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days," declares the LORD, "I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. "It takes unacceptable theological legerdemain to conclude that when God writes the Torah (law) on hearts he changes it into something other than the Torah" (Restoring the Jewishness of the Gospel, David H. Stern, Jewish New Testament Publications, Inc., 1988)! matt517" I fully agree. - Blessings, Reighnskye |
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158 | NT tithing completely unbiblical? | Matt 23:23 | Reighnskye | 133382 | ||
Dalcent, You reference the following verse to support tithing: Matthew 23 23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier provisions of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness; but these are the things you should have done without neglecting the others. (NAS95) Insofar as the tithe referenced here is a commandment to pay taxes to the Jewish government, are you therefore suggesting that I should also pay taxes to the Jewish government? Or simply to the US government? What's this got to do with my local church assembly? Were the Pharisees born again church members? - You afterward reference this next scripture unit in regards to tithing: Genesis 14 18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; now he was a priest of God Most High. 19 He blessed him and said, "Blessed be Abram of God Most High, Possessor of heaven and earth; 20 And blessed be God Most High, Who has delivered your enemies into your hand." He gave him a tenth of all. (NAS95) Here we clearly see the origination of the tithe in the establishment and reinforcement of the Old Testament Law. But this does not make a case to the New Testament believer to support paying a tithe to the local church. In fact, there is no reference to the church here, nor does the New Testament interpret this verse as giving ten percent to one's local church assembly. - As far as arguing that the Old Covenant is still in force, except when contraindicated by the New Covenant, on what do you base this? Are you suggesting that a portion of the Law is passed away for us, while we should just live under certain parts of the Law? In other words, I should live under half of the Law, and not the other half? Further, if it would be rare for Christians today to say that we are not under the Old Testament Ten Commandments, it would only be on the basis of ignorance. If I were under the Ten Commandments today, I should therefore only live in fear that I would be executed if I pick up sticks on the Sabbath. I suggest that the organized religion today has reduced the Ten Commandments into a nice self-help philosophy text, that we should each attempt to diligently adhere to. However, the biblical Ten Commandments were a set of legal restrictions that were placed on the Jewish nation, carrying severe penalties, up to and including execution, if they were disobeyed. If I attempt to adhere to the Ten Commandments today, should I not be executed if I break any of them? Certainly so, lest I do not truly respect them, as so they were first intentioned. - I will add a verse here regarding the Ten Commandments and how they were intentioned only for wicked and perverse reprobates: 1 Timothy 1 8 But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, 9 realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10 and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, (NAS95) - Lastly, I suggest that it would be incorrect to view the New Testament revelation of the Gospel as the second half of an incomplete Old Testament. This would then infer that the New Testament gospel was only a "half-message", apart from the knowledge of the OT Law. Rather, I would suggest that the New Testament gospel is complete in and of itself, without any reference to the old. In fact, the new completely eclipses the old. Although Jewish believers had the Law as a tutor to instruct them of their sins, nonetheless the Gentiles were completely without the Law of Moses under the ministry of Paul, and yet they still could become saved, without being instructed in the Ten Commandments. Romans 2 12 For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law; 13 for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified. 14 For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, 15 in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, (NAS95) That is, even if a person has absolutely no knowledge of the Law (as per the common gentile), the New Testament Gospel of grace can still save them. Peter's Jewish converts had the luxury of possessing a knowledge of the Law of Moses, but Paul's Gentile converts did not. - Blessings, Reighnskye |
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159 | NT tithing completely unbiblical? | Matt 23:23 | Reighnskye | 133383 | ||
Kalos, You are right on target. :) - Blessings, Reighnskye |
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160 | NT tithing completely unbiblical? | Matt 23:23 | Reighnskye | 133385 | ||
Mark D Seyler, Here is an answer to your questions about biblical giving. Don't stop at ten percent. - Acts 2 44 And all those who had believed were together and had all things in common; 45 and they began selling their property and possessions and were sharing them with all, as anyone might have need. (NAS95) Acts 4 34 For there was not a needy person among them, for all who were owners of land or houses would sell them and bring the proceeds of the sales 35 and lay them at the apostles' feet, and they would be distributed to each as any had need. (NAS95) - Rather, give 100 percent of your property and possessions to your local church, instead of merely ten percent. Why hold back? (Unless, of course, your local assembly will spend the entire sum on new stereo equipment or landscaping development.) - Blessings, Reighnskye |
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