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201 | Does God plunge mortals into ignorance? | Obad 1:8 | Reighnskye | 131209 | ||
Aaron, Thanks again for all of the great comments. You've given me a bit to think about. Reighnskye |
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202 | What should be a woman's boundaries? | Ruth 2:22 | Reighnskye | 131196 | ||
Prayon, For example, here are a couple of corporate safety guidelines that I've directly encountered in the workplace. I'm wondering if the scriptures speak of these things at all. - 1. Supervisors are restricted from engaging in any sort of course jesting (sexual, racial, religious, etc.), whether or not the listeners may externally appear to be receptive or not. The idea contained herein is that employees who are offended by their supervisors often won't mention their reservations anyway, and will most often quit their jobs before filing a discrimination grievance. Therefore, even well-intentioned jokes of a potentially off-nature are banned, even when the listeners externally appear to be receptive. 2. Females should always be accompanied by a trusted partner (usually also female) when entering and leaving the work facility during off-hours when no one is in the parking lot. Both strangers and work associates may yet pose a safety risk, despite having otherwise safe appearances. - These are just a couple of corporate boundaries produced by the secular realm, which even religious people may wish to apply in the church realm. Would my extension be valid? I'm probably not the most scripturally-based here. Reighnskye |
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203 | Does God judge nations directly? | Obad 1:2 | Reighnskye | 131194 | ||
Doc, I clearly see now what you mean by over-spiritualization. Thank you for the illustrations contained in these specific examples. I probably might use a different term myself, but it's probably not best for me to get weighed down in excessive semantics anyway. ---- When Jesus then saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He *said to His mother, "Woman, behold, your son!" Then He *said to the disciple, "Behold, your mother!" From that hour the disciple took her into his own household. (John 19:26-27 NAS95) I would interpret the scripture unit that you cite as still possessing a vastly spiritual dimension and meaning. This is notwithstanding it's practical application of the inherent spirituality conveyed therein. For example, although I wouldn't desire to project either of these two misinterpretations that you mention upon this text, I would still have to say that this scripture unit (like any other) has an inherent spiritual lesson for each one of us. The spiritual lesson in this particular unit might be in regards to the spiritual family which we have in the church, wherein Mary and John take care of each other, despite their lack of immediate familial relations in the flesh. In other words, spiritually speaking, we are all one family. It is my premise that no verse of scripture lacks a spiritual origination and dimension to it. Nor should practical application be omitted either. Of course, any and all scriptures could be over-interpreted and/or under-interpreted as to their precise meanings, whether spiritually or practically. I suggest that the spiritual meaning of this verse is contained here. ---- While He was still speaking to the crowds, behold, His mother and brothers were standing outside, seeking to speak to Him. Someone said to Him, "Behold, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside seeking to speak to You." But Jesus answered the one who was telling Him and said, "Who is My mother and who are My brothers?" And stretching out His hand toward His disciples, He said, "Behold My mother and My brothers! "For whoever does the will of My Father who is in heaven, he is My brother and sister and mother." (Matthew 12:46-50 NAS95) ---- Further, you reference the interpretive authority basis used by the Protestants and the Catholics. What alternate authority might you suggest as being valid, that we may more directly rely on? Reighnskye |
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204 | Should nations own land territories? | Obad 1:20 | Reighnskye | 131191 | ||
Doc, I guess that I've always viewed the opposite converse of the Eighth Commandment to be something like "Thou Shalt Give" as opposed to "Thou shalt Own". Hence, the giving up of individual property rights, wherein we do not cling to this earth's possessions. Please note the following scriptures. ---- and they began selling their property and possessions and were sharing them with all, as anyone might have need. (Acts 2:45 NAS95) And the congregation of those who believed were of one heart and soul; and not one of them claimed that anything belonging to him was his own, but all things were common property to them. (Acts 4:32 NAS95) Reighnskye |
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205 | Will their be a Church remnant? | Obad 1:17 | Reighnskye | 131190 | ||
Sold Out, It is very pleasant to read all of the scripture references that you provide. I'm wondering what particular judgments await the church, that only a remnant will be left. Have the majority already occurred or are there many more to come? ---- For it is time for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? AND IF IT IS WITH DIFFICULTY THAT THE RIGHTEOUS IS SAVED, WHAT WILL BECOME OF THE GODLESS MAN AND THE SINNER? (1 Peter 4:17-18 NAS95) Reighnskye |
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206 | Does God plunge mortals into ignorance? | Obad 1:8 | Reighnskye | 131189 | ||
Aaron, You write a lot of thought-provoking notes here. Thank you for your indepth answers. You reference that even the natural creation declares the glory of God. I have to wholeheartedly agree. I guess what I'm trying to get at (or conversely understand better myself) is that an adult's rejection of the gospel is largely made via one's own earthly mind and mortal level of understanding. Indeed all wisdom originates from God, both spiritual and earthly. Nonetheless, I personally tend to view the large majority of supposed conversions and/or rejections of the gospel as being made according to the earthly type of knowledge, wherein the volition is somewhat compromised due to lack of spiritual awareness. I have to ponder some of the things that you write in your post here a bit more, insofar as I need to isolate some inconsistencies in either my own belief system or in some of the notions presented on these boards. It is my personal perspective that the majority of religious conversions and/or rejections of the gospel are done on a shallow level of earthly psuedo-consciousness, thereby largely lacking any degree of eternal impact. ---- I said to myself concerning the sons of men, "God has surely tested them in order for them to see that they are but beasts." For the fate of the sons of men and the fate of beasts is the same. As one dies so dies the other; indeed, they all have the same breath and there is no advantage for man over beast, for all is vanity. All go to the same place. All came from the dust and all return to the dust. Who knows that the breath of man ascends upward and the breath of the beast descends downward to the earth? (Ecclesiastes 3:18-21 NAS95) Reighnskye |
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207 | Does God judge nations directly? | Obad 1:2 | Reighnskye | 131176 | ||
Doc, How might one assess what is indeed over-spiritualization? My proposal is that we as mortals are not spiritual enough in our biblical interpretations. I would be greatly hesitant to reduce the greater spirituality of scripture down to a basis of mere speculation. Indeed, the Bible offers us a plethora of earthly applications for our personal lives. But the moment that we may potentially separate these earthly applications from an enlightened spiritual vision, such applications therefore tend to revert to empty and vain religiosity. Even as any supposed spirituality, in the absence of earthly application, will only be revealed to be a psuedo-spirituality in the end. I would be very careful here to differentiate between spirituality and speculation, as the two are commonly mistaken for each the other. Speculation has it's place, but ideally under the greater context of direct spiritual revelation. As far as authority goes when rendering biblical interpretations, I am aware of no other source than the Holy Spirit. Even many of the later church fathers and theologians (after the apostles died out) were not fully adequate in my view to interpret the scriptures for us. Their own doctrinal schisms against one another seems to confirm this to me. Blessings, Reighnskye |
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208 | Visions through angelic messengers only? | Obad 1:1 | Reighnskye | 131173 | ||
Rowdy, Amen. You have my full support on the matter, for whatever it may be worth. Blessings, Reighnskye |
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209 | Were woman bought and sold? | Ruth 4:5 | Reighnskye | 131171 | ||
Aaron, Your comments are extremely insightful and add an immense amount to broaden my perspective. Now that you mention it, Boaz clearly represents Jesus as the kinsman redeemer. I've always viewed Ruth's role as a gentile (sinner) who converts to Judaism (Christianity). If one adopts a more expansive biblical perspective than what the book of Ruth alone can provide, we may potentially apply some of these other roles as well. Here is just some of my own immediate speculation, if I'm not overly projecting my ideas onto the text here. Naomi (the patriarch Israel) becomes barren with the loss of her two sons (the nations of Judah and Israel). The sinner Ruth (gentile church) converts to Judaism (Christianity) with the aid of Boaz the kinsman redeemer (Jesus). John the Baptist (the Law of Moses) couldn't quite get the job of redemption done, despite his best efforts, so he ended up just pointing the way. ---- And here is just a wild side note with a possible modern day reference, although this would strictly reflect my own personal beliefs. After the reign of King Solomon, his two sons Jeroboam and Rehoboam got into a big fight. Hence, the nation of Israel (the Catholic Church) and the nation of Judah (the Protestant Church) wind up in a near-permanent schism, and are each eventually subjugated and exiled during the Assyrian and Babylonian dominations. The schism of God's people basically amplified an apostasy. Please read the texts here carefully. ---- There was war between Rehoboam and Jeroboam continually. (1 Kings 14:30 NAS95) Now in the fourth year of King Hezekiah, which was the seventh year of Hoshea son of Elah king of Israel, Shalmaneser king of Assyria came up against Samaria and besieged it. At the end of three years they captured it; in the sixth year of Hezekiah, which was the ninth year of Hoshea king of Israel, Samaria was captured. Then the king of Assyria carried Israel away into exile to Assyria, and put them in Halah and on the Habor, the river of Gozan, and in the cities of the Medes, because they did not obey the voice of the LORD their God, but transgressed His covenant, even all that Moses the servant of the LORD commanded; they would neither listen nor do it. (2 Kings 18:9-12 NAS95) At that time the servants of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon went up to Jerusalem, and the city came under siege. And Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon came to the city, while his servants were besieging it. Jehoiachin the king of Judah went out to the king of Babylon, he and his mother and his servants and his captains and his officials. So the king of Babylon took him captive in the eighth year of his reign. He carried out from there all the treasures of the house of the LORD, and the treasures of the king's house, and cut in pieces all the vessels of gold which Solomon king of Israel had made in the temple of the LORD, just as the LORD had said. Then he led away into exile all Jerusalem and all the captains and all the mighty men of valor, ten thousand captives, and all the craftsmen and the smiths. None remained except the poorest people of the land. (2 Kings 24:10-14 NAS95) The word of the LORD came again to me saying, "And you, son of man, take for yourself one stick and write on it, 'For Judah and for the sons of Israel, his companions'; then take another stick and write on it, 'For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and all the house of Israel, his companions.' "Then join them for yourself one to another into one stick, that they may become one in your hand. "When the sons of your people speak to you saying, 'Will you not declare to us what you mean by these?' say to them, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel, his companions; and I will put them with it, with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they will be one in My hand."' "The sticks on which you write will be in your hand before their eyes. "Say to them, 'Thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I will take the sons of Israel from among the nations where they have gone, and I will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land; and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel; and one king will be king for all of them; and they will no longer be two nations and no longer be divided into two kingdoms. "They will no longer defile themselves with their idols, or with their detestable things, or with any of their transgressions; but I will deliver them from all their dwelling places in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them. And they will be My people, and I will be their God. "My servant David will be king over them, and they will all have one shepherd; and they will walk in My ordinances and keep My statutes and observe them. (Ezekiel 37:15-24 NAS95) I'd be interested in your opinion as well. Reighnskye |
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210 | How much authority do leaders have? | Ruth 3:5 | Reighnskye | 131169 | ||
Doc, An interesting verse reference that you offer here. I like to contrast the two versions of NASB and KJV on this one. Another question that arises for me is concerning the powers (archons) here. Shall we restrict these higher powers to human governments only? The reasoning here is that God is the author of every power that exists. Hence, could we extend this notion to non-governmental powers as well? For example, if I stand in the middle of a room with the mayor of Chicago in one corner and a hungry roaring lion in the other corner, which one is the higher power? To which of God's agents should I show the most reverence and/or fear? Each of them wants to be the boss, but which of the two shall I respect the most? ---- Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil. (Romans 13:1-4 NAS95) Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. (Romans 13:1-4 KJV) |
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211 | What should be a woman's boundaries? | Ruth 2:22 | Reighnskye | 131167 | ||
Aaron, Very insightful. Thanks. Reighnskye |
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212 | What should be a woman's boundaries? | Ruth 2:22 | Reighnskye | 131166 | ||
Prayon, Thanks much. I guess I've mostly been pondering corporate safety considerations. Reighnskye |
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213 | What is the Church's responsibility? | Ruth 2:10 | Reighnskye | 131164 | ||
Doc, I'm so happy that technology helped to restore a portion of your site. That's absolutely wonderful. I apologize if my question may border over into the political realm, insofar as bible study is my greater goal and I do not wish to push a political party or agenda. My own personal views on the matter is that the organized religion has handed way too much power over to the US government by neglecting to help the poor financially as greatly as would be desired. And while everyone should be offered the freedom to succeed or fail on their own merit, I nonetheless tend to find the US government as a greater monetary support to the medically handicapped, as opposed to the church. Which is sad in my personal estimation. ---- What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, and one of you says to them, "Go in peace, be warmed and be filled," and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that? Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself. (James 2:14-17 NAS95) Do not withhold good from those to whom it is due, When it is in your power to do it. Do not say to your neighbor, "Go, and come back, And tomorrow I will give it," When you have it with you. (Proverbs 3:27-28 NAS95) Reighnskye |
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214 | Why does God impart familial bitterness? | Ruth 1:20 | Reighnskye | 131163 | ||
Doc, Actually, I've about given up on attempting to find anything resembling the care of a family unit offered by the church. Not that it doesn't exist, but people have their own families to be concerned about with first. As far as having a mindset of accumulating treasures in heaven, although that may be a result that believer's experience, I do not view it as a primary goal so much. I've tried to depart from living by the rewards/penalty system that I was raised up with, and which is performed in the corporate realm. Dangling carrots or issuing threats to get people to perform. I guess I view the rewards/penalty system (which I was taught in corporate management classes) as a manipulation tactic intended to coax lesser minds into a set of performance requirements. If you do bad, you'll be punished (you'll go to hell) but if you do good, you'll be rewarded (you'll go to heaven). Although I sincerely believe in heaven and hell, I nonetheless view that the reality of their existence should never be used to manipulate people according to a performance-based system. We ought do good works despite the rewards, whether or not we recieve a reward. And those who seek after purely reward will surely come short of it, when dealing with eternal matters. "Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. "But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys, and where thieves do not break in or steal; for where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. (Matthew 6:19-21 NAS95) Reighnskye |
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215 | Why does God impart familial bitterness? | Ruth 1:20 | Reighnskye | 131161 | ||
Searcher, I am particularly referencing Naomi's statement in Ruth 1:20, wherein she accredits God as dealing bitterly with her in the destruction of her family. Job himself issued similar accreditation to God when his children were destroyed through the handiwork of the devil, albeit with God ultimately sovereign over all things. While he was still speaking, another also came and said, "Your sons and your daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother's house, and behold, a great wind came from across the wilderness and struck the four corners of the house, and it fell on the young people and they died, and I alone have escaped to tell you." Then Job arose and tore his robe and shaved his head, and he fell to the ground and worshiped. He said, "Naked I came from my mother's womb, And naked I shall return there. The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away. Blessed be the name of the LORD." Through all this Job did not sin nor did he blame God. (Job 1:18-22 NAS95) ---- And here God further confesses to committing evil (adversity) on the earth, (albeit commonly through intermediate forces). "I am the LORD, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God. I will gird you, though you have not known Me; That men may know from the rising to the setting of the sun That there is no one besides Me. I am the LORD, and there is no other, The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the LORD who does all these. (Isaiah 45:5-7 NAS95) Please compare the NASB with the King James rendering. I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. (Isaiah 45:5-7 KJV) ---- And to top it all off, here's a vision of Micaiah the prophet, wherein God actually both calls and sends a demon to politically decieve an earthly king. Micaiah said, "Therefore, hear the word of the LORD. I saw the LORD sitting on His throne, and all the host of heaven standing by Him on His right and on His left. "The LORD said, 'Who will entice Ahab to go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?' And one said this while another said that. "Then a spirit came forward and stood before the LORD and said, 'I will entice him.' "The LORD said to him, 'How?' And he said, 'I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' Then He said, 'You are to entice him and also prevail. Go and do so.' (1 Kings 22:19-22 NAS95) Herein I believe lies evidence that God is truly sovereign over all the ministries of both greater and lesser angels, whether divine or demonic. All serve a purpose in the growth and sanctification of God's people. Reighnskye |
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216 | Will the time of the judges be restored? | Ruth 1:1 | Reighnskye | 131158 | ||
Searcher, Here is the verse that you referenced where the twelve apostle will judge the twelve tribes of Israel in the millennial kingdom. And Jesus said to them, "Truly I say to you, that you who have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on His glorious throne, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. (Matthew 19:28 NAS95) ---- And here is the mention of the saints judging angels. The contrast that I believe is made here is the differentiation between this world and the coming kingdom. Another idea being that angelic beings are inferior to regenerate and immortal human beings, even if the angels exceed us for now. I view that none of God's angels are free from the blemish of sin and a number of them even fell through their own free volition. Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts? Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life? (1 Corinthians 6:2-3 NAS95) ---- And here is the mention of the cutting off of the tribe of Benjamin at the hands of the other tribes, although this can be interpreted any number of ways. Your Rev 7:8 reference is clear indication of the restoration of this cut off tribe. And the sons of Israel were sorry for their brother Benjamin and said, "One tribe is cut off from Israel today. (Judges 21:6 NAS95) So all of Benjamin who fell that day were 25,000 men who draw the sword; all these were valiant warriors. But 600 men turned and fled toward the wilderness to the rock of Rimmon, and they remained at the rock of Rimmon four months. The men of Israel then turned back against the sons of Benjamin and struck them with the edge of the sword, both the entire city with the cattle and all that they found; they also set on fire all the cities which they found. (Judges 20:46-48 NAS95) Reighnskye |
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217 | what is involved in restoring....... | Gal 6:1 | Reighnskye | 131157 | ||
Dear Hank, Blessings to you as well. And thank you for your role as one of the elder members of this board, to keep it safe for newcomers such as myself and many others, who like to genuinely learn about the bible. Reighnskye |
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218 | How does one report abuse? | Bible general Archive 2 | Reighnskye | 131156 | ||
Greetings CDBJ, Thanks for your concerned and rather prompt response. Lowering the caps really does make a difference. And your scripture units are quite appropriate as well. It's good to know that this board is quite well moderated. Thanx again, Reighnskye |
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219 | How does one report abuse? | Bible general Archive 2 | Reighnskye | 131091 | ||
Greetings CDBJ :) Here are some posts that have generated concern lately from both myself and a few others that I've noticed. 131043 131042 131034 130945 130944 130941 130931 And here are some posts wherein others besides myself have voiced their own concerns, which I am in full agreement with. 131033 130978 131051 130802 130789 It is my desire that a safe environment could be continued to be maintained for all, as is possible with adherence to forum guidelines. Thanks much for your concern and energy. Reighnskye |
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220 | what is involved in restoring....... | Gal 6:1 | Reighnskye | 131062 | ||
Thanx Steve :) Did and done. Reighnskye |
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