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1861 | Stone or stone for 1 Peter 2:4? | 1 Pet 2:6 | Ray | 139464 | ||
Hi CDBJ, So your point is? Syntax: 1 [Now rare] orderly or systematic arrangement 2 Gram., the arrangement of and relationships among words, phrases, and clauses forming sentences; sentence structure 4 Logic, syntactics as applied to language in the abstract with no meaning attached either to the symbols or to the expressions constructed from these symbols. 1) I would see a connection between the living (s)Stone of 1 Peter 2:4 with the precious (v)Value to us who believe (verse 7). 1 Peter 2:7, NKJ, "Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious;..." 2) Can we, too, stumble because we are disobedient to the word? (verse 8). Or does it keep us from growing [up] in regards to salvation? (verse 2). From the heart, Ray |
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1862 | Stone or stone for 1 Peter 2:4? | 1 Pet 2:6 | Ray | 139608 | ||
Hi CDBJ, O.K. Suppose we not look at lower or upper case "stone". We won't consider whether Jesus is a man or a Man. We won't consider whether or not the NWT is correct with saying that the Word was a god. Koine Greek didn't show lower or upper case distinction so we don't need to either. Is that right? Is that good thinking? We know in this passage in 1 Peter that the "stone" is Jesus. But to the unbeliever it , Jesus, is a stone of stumbling, a rock of offense. O.K. let's not look at the capitalization; but let's consider verse 6 and decide if the translation should be "it" or "Him". What do you think; should it not be Him rather than it? And when one does consider capitalization, should it not be Him rather than him? We come to Him as chosen and precious in the sight of God. The Scriptures tell us that "they took offense at Him"/. They said, "Where did this man (NASB) Man (NKJ) get this wisdom, and these miraculous powers?" And they took offense at this prophet or Prophet. See Matthew 13:57 and Mark 6:3. But we as believers are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's/ own possession. 1 Peter 2:9 This precious honor, then, is for you who believe. 1 Peter 2:7. From the heart, Ray P.S. I like the way you included the word "written" in speaking of "the written Word of God". That is a good way to distinguish between the word of God, the Scriptures, and the "Word" of John 1:1. |
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1863 | Stone or stone for 1 Peter 2:4? | 1 Pet 2:6 | Ray | 139648 | ||
Hi CDBJ, I am not writing a new translation of the Bible, either; and I don't carry much weight around anywhere. I am trying to do my part in "interpretting" the Bible correctly or more accurately. So for 1 Peter 2:6 as written above in the all caps quote of a scripture, I see two pronouns of Deity. 1) **"I lay in Zion a choice stone" and 2) "And he who believes in *Him will not be disappointed". I would compare/contrast it to John 14:1, "Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in **God, believe also in *Me." If the Holy Spirit teaches us to authomatically know who this stone is, then we (you and I) should believe in "Him". So for verse 7 I would go with the NASB rather than the NKJ where the pronoun "He is precious" is not in the Greek. I believe that a perfect interpretation is possible and we should be working on it individually as the Holy Spirit indeed leads us. The translators should be working on a perfect "interpretation" as well, for I believe that it will come. On the other hand, I do not want to beat a dead horse. You answered my thread here, not the other way around. If you don't want to discuss things further that is all right with me; I know that you believe in Him even though you might not always capitalize the pronoun. From the heart, Ray |
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1864 | What is the Priesthood of Believers? | 1 Pet 2:9 | Ray | 63180 | ||
Hi preacher7373, I appreciate your comments and the Scriptures you have offered. Welcome to the forum. Revelation 20:6 talks of "priests of God/ and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years." 1 Peter 2:9, "But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's/ own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light." God's priests are His own possession. We are people of His grace and mercy. The verses are wonderful companion verses. Thank you. As far as spiritual sacrifices I like to compare also Romans 12:1 and Hebrews 13:16. The comparison shows how our bodies presented to Him are not only acceptable but well-pleasing to Him. Also 1 Corinthians 6:17. We are one body of believers. 1 John 3:24, "And we know by this that He/ abides in us, by the *spirit which He has given us." 1 Corinthians 6:17, "But the one who joins himself to the Lord/ is one spirit [with Him]." I look forward to more interaction with you on the forum. From the heart, Ray |
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1865 | Is this baptism by the Holy Spirit? | 1 Pet 3:21 | Ray | 78528 | ||
Hi Searcher, You have put in a lot of time and work on this and I am sure that you are appreciated. I don't know where a lot of you have the time; don't we all have families? My girls are all skiing so I have time.:) I am one in the minority for believing that 1 Peter 3:21 is not speaking of water baptism. I see no water in any of the verses you have referenced. We will differ on some of the Scriptures because of my lower case rendering of holy spirit, but I believe our thoughts are the same, Searcher. My thought on being commanded to be baptized by the Holy Spirit: We are not commanded to be baptized by the Holy Spirit, because that would mean that we would have control over God and His will. However, I believe that Jesus baptized with the holy spirit [sic] and we are told to be filled with the holy spirit [sic]. "Does Holy Spirit baptism save you?": Here again I will differ from others because I see the holy spirit and the Holy Spirit in the Scriptures. My study has been with capitalization through the years. I believe that Jesus baptized with the holy spirit and if one received that holy spirit, that word of truth, that good news of the kingdom, that spirit of love, then they were saved. We too, are to be filled with this holy spirit. The holy spirit is a gift, a promise to everyone, to "as many as the Lord our God shall call to Himself." Acts 2:38. When the people received these and other words and knew Jesus as both Lord and Christ, having been baptized with the holy spirit, they were baptized in water. A very similar situation compared to Acts 8 with the eunuch and Acts 9 with Paul. They were filled with holy spirit and preached and proclaimed Jesus as the Son of God. 1 Corinthians 6:17, "But the one who joins himself to the Lord is one spirit with Him. ...18 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own?" So you see, I believe in the baptism, filling, receiving of the holy spirit but also the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. I had best leave off here and see if I made any sense to you; but that is the way that I interpret things so far. God is not finished with us yet and I have pencil and eraser ready. From the heart, Ray |
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1866 | Holy Spirit or holy spirit; (s)Spirit? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 139144 | ||
Hi Mommapbs, Sorry that I couldn't talk with you last night about this; my wife and I attended a performance of Handel's Messiah last night and I didn't check my e-mail afterwards. Have you heard it or sung in it yet this year? You've asked some good questions. I think that there is a difference in "What" and "Who" just like there is a difference in "which" and "whom". So to my mind if there is a choice to be made, we have to phrase the question as Who or what gives us life? I believe that the Spirit is the Giver and the spirit is the gift we receive. The Life gives us life. The Light gives us light. The Word gives us the word. The Spirit gives us spirit. 1) What gives us life? I think both the Spirit and the spirit. That is why I say that no denomination has everything "right". The Jehovah's Witness does not believe in the Person of the Holy Spirit and we are not open to thinking of the holy spirit as a power given to us. 2) In your questions you may be referring to 1 Peter 3:18 where it says we are made alive in the (s)Spirit. I think of Ephesians 2:5, "even when we were dead in our transgressions, [He] made us alive together with Christ..." 3) 1 Peter 3:18, "For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, in order that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit; 19 in WHICH also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison,..." 1 Peter 3:18, NKJ, "...being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, 19 by WHOM also He went and preached to the spirits..." You of course notice my stressed words of which and whom depending on spirit or Spirit. The NASB has as marginal notes [Or, Spirit] and [Or, whom]. And I would personally go with the "alive in the Spirit". How about you? 4) These things have been spoken of before through the years and ages as perhaps the choices of 1 Corinthians 6:20 would show. Some manuscripts do not include the second sentence. 1 Corinthians 6:20, NASB, "For you were bought with a price; therefore glorify God in your body. NKJ, "and in your spirit, which are God's." So my point is that we have to be aware that we have both a Spirit and a spirit in the Scriptures; we have to be discerning in who or what is being spoken of in the particular passages. 5) We can also look at Romans 8 together. From the heart, Ray |
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1867 | Holy Spirit or holy spirit; (s)Spirit? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 139150 | ||
Hi Mommapbs, I know better than to put all caps to words that are being considered for Deity. So I regret putting WHOM in all caps because one can not determine whether Whom or whom is meant. I do not capitalize "whom". I go with 1 Peter 3:18, "having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the Spirit; 19 in whom also He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison." I'll try to start another thread for us today. From the heart, Ray |
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1868 | Holy Spirit or holy spirit; (s)Spirit? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 139152 | ||
Hi Searcher, 2 Chronicles 29 is indeed a good example of worship and singing to the Lord. The "song to the Lord" (verse 27) began with the trumpets and my Messiah concert pretty much ended with the trumpet. Bass Aria and trumpet: "The trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." 1 Cor 15:51,52. A reference verse for 2 Chronicles is 1 Chron 25:6,7. "And their number who were trained in singing to the Lord, with their relatives, all who were skilled, was 288." The Oratorio Society that I heard numbered only around 150, but that full sound of many voices along with orchestra "singing to the Lord" does usher in the Christmas season for us. From the heart, Ray |
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1869 | Holy Spirit or holy spirit; (s)Spirit? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 139354 | ||
Hi Angel, Thank you for sharing your thoughts of capitalization with me. I wonder how you regard the capitalization in the verse of this thread. My personal interpretation is "that though they are judged in the flesh as men, they may live according to God in the Spirit". Any comments? 1) When speaking of our spirit, 1 Cor 6:20 comes to mind. NKJ, "For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's." I know of no Scripture that talks about God's Holy Spirit, however. 2) Concerning capitalizing "Holy". I know that you are thinking about Holy Spirit rather than holy Spirit, and I agree with you. I am considering, however, Acts 4:27-30. The passage talks about "Your holy Servant Jesus, whom You anointed", NKJ. Would you choose a capitalized Holy for that passage? Or, would you go with the NASB with its "holy servant Jesus". 3) Who and/or what is going to help us make these decisions? From the heart, Ray |
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1870 | Those who died before Jesus' death | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 139962 | ||
Hi Tim, By speaking of God's self revelation and "He chose to use language to reveal Himself", you recognize the presence of spirit and Spirit. John 1:16, KJ, "And of his fullness have all we received, and grace for grace." When you choose to go with seeing "Himself" you agree with "God Himself". John 1:16, NASB, "For of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace." John 1:18, "NASB, "...He has explained [Him]." John 1:18, KJ, "...he has explained [him]." Which version is the better explanation? How does one decide; by his spirit or His spirit or the Holy Spirit? The only begotten God [the Son]; This Man has explained the Spirit. No man has seen God at any time. John 4:24, NASB, "God is spirit [Or a Spirit]..." I read it like it really is, a chance to know God as He reveals Himself to us. 1Peter 4:6, For the gospel has for this purpose been preached even to those who are dead, that though they are judged in the flesh as men, they may live according to God in the Spirit. That is how I have it "penciled in". :) From the heart, Ray |
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1871 | Angel, How is the Bible incomplete? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 139966 | ||
Hi Mommapbs, Your thoughts here led me to compare your verses and others. We don't want to be stumbling around in the dark; we want to walk in Him. 1 Peter 2:21, "For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example for you to follow in (His) steps." Colossians 2:6, "As you therefore have received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in (Him)." Ezekiel 36:27, And I will put My (s)Spirit within you and cause you to walk in (My) statutes,..." From the heart, Ray |
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1872 | Angel, How is the Bible incomplete? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 139987 | ||
Hi Mommapbs, Your question is one that I have not thought about; and I get uncomfortable when I have to think. I have led a rather "sheltered" life and especially in my retirement I am not in my personal world witnessing for Him. So, in other words, I don't feel the powers of darkness getting worried about me and my witness and daily walk with Him. So in that sense I am not aware of the darkness; perhaps I would be more aware if I were more of a witness. Did you have something like that in mind? 1) I do believe that when one walks in Him and in His statutes and in His light, that little sins are regarded as big sins. One sees the contrast between good and evil more easily; wanting to make the gray areas of life even lighter. We know that we are not to sin. 1 John 2 comes to mind. 1 John 2:4, "The one who says, "I have come to know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; 5 but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God is perfected. By this we know that we are in Him; 6 the one who abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as (He) walked." 2) 1 John 2:3, "And by this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments." John 11:9, "Jesus answered, "Are there not twelve hours in the day? If anyone walks in the day, he does not stumble, because he sees the Light of this world." The darkness should be passing away according to verse 8 for the true Light is already shining. 1 John 2:10, "The one who loves his brother abides in the Light and there is no cause of stumbling in him. 11 But the one who hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going because the darkness has blinded his eyes." 3) 1 John 2:14, "...I have written to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of (God) abides in you, and you have overcome the evil one." John 8:12, "Then Jesus again spoke to them, saying, "I am the (Light) of the world; he who follows Me shall not walk in the darkness, but shall have the Light of life." The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God abides forever. 1 John 2:17. 4) The darkness is passing away, and the world is passing away, because we think of the things of the Spirit. Do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. Romans 8:5, "For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the (Spirit)." We belong to (Him), through His (Spirit) who indwells you, and are regarded as children of (God). That is how I have Romans 8 penciled in; looking at the law of the (Spirit)--of life in Christ Jesus. I hope it is helpful and meaningful to you as well. The parentheses are of course mine for comparison. From the heart, Ray |
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1873 | Holy Spirit or holy spirit; (s)Spirit? | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 140054 | ||
Hi Angel, Thanks for getting me back to this thread, because I had meant to speak to my statement that "I know of no Scripture that talks about God's Holy Spirit." Your references that you gave me do not have those words. And I do not wish to add any words to the verses even though God and the Spirit are always Holy in our minds. I am interested in capitalization of Deity but I am also interested in counting the occurances; thus I do not want to take away or add to any passage. However, I wanted to express the fact that although "God's Holy Spirit" is not to be found anywhere, "His Holy Spirit" is found in Isaiah 63:10 and 11 and "Thy Holy Spirit" is found in Psalm 51:11. 1) I don't agree with you on the capitalization of Holy, Servant, and Anointed but I will start a new thread on Acts 2 and we can discuss it more there. 2) "Who and/or what is going to help us make these decisions?" I believe that the Holy Spirit witnessing with our spirit will bring about the right decisions for capitalization. I would like to see the NASB and the NKJ working together on a new interpretive Bible. From the heart, Ray |
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1874 | The dead in 1 Pet 4:6 | 1 Pet 4:6 | Ray | 142392 | ||
P.S. Romans 8:10, "And if Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit [sic] is alive because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His (Spirit) who indwells you." 1 Peter 4:6, "...that though they are judged in the flesh as men, they may live according to the will of God in the (Spirit)." The parentheses are mine for comparison. From the heart, Ray |
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1875 | If you are reviled IN the name of Christ | 1 Pet 4:14 | Ray | 148715 | ||
Hi Michael, Capitalization in the Greek and Hebrew was not a big deal, I agree. Capitalization in most of our Bible versions is not a big deal. But would you not agree that it is important to determine in our minds whether a verse is talking about God or not? For instance, you wrote that "the commitee thought it was more likely an addition refering to the spirit of glory." Was the committee referring to the spirit [sic] or the Spirit of glory? 1) Thank you for your Scripture references. I think your Matthew 5:11 passage is an appropriate comparison. I think also that Matthew 5:20 can be compared to 1 Peter 4:14 in that our righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, if the Spirit of glory rests upon us. From the heart, Ray |
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1876 | Reviled IN the name of Christ? | 1 Pet 4:14 | Ray | 148795 | ||
Hi Mommapbs, You have encouraged me in my thinking on the passage, for I agree with you that being in the name of Christ would identify the individual as a Christian. 1 Peter 4:16, "but if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not feel ashamed, but in that name let him glorify **God." James 4:4, "You adulteress, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward **God?" It is time for us all to live up to the name that we go by--Christians. Or as 1 Peter 4:17 says, "For it is time for judgment to begin with [Lit. from] the household of God;..." So my question as a counter of pronouns of Deity is, "How do we interpret this word "Christian" and "Do I include the last part of verse 14 in my personal copy?" From the heart, Ray |
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1877 | Reviled IN the name of Christ? | 1 Pet 4:14 | Ray | 148916 | ||
Hi mommapbs, We might have to wait and see what scholars say about the Greek, but I think your thought is good; belief without belief that Jesus is God is dead faith. We need to see His glory just as Isaiah did. However, Jesus did not come to glorify Himself alone. If we desire to "emphasize Him", then we lose the unity of God and think of "Jesus Only". Jesus went on in John 12:44 to say that you don't believe in Me but in Him who sent Me (if you believe in Me). Verse 45, "He who sees Me sees the One who sent Me." So, what are we to think, mommapbs? Did He come as light or Light? John 10:33 - John 12:46 1 Peter 4:17, "...what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? 18 And if it is with difficulty that the righteous is saved, what will become of the godless man and the sinner?" From the heart, Ray |
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1878 | Reviled IN the name of Christ? | 1 Pet 4:14 | Ray | 149040 | ||
Hi mommapbs, No, for I do not capitalize "whom". Ephesians 4:30, "And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of (God), by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption." John 3:26, "And they came to John and said to him, 'Rabbi, He who was with you beyond Jordan, to whom you have borne witness, behold, He is baptizing, and all are coming to (Him).'" John 12:36, "While you have the Light, believe in the Light, in order that you may become sons of (Light)." Ephesians 1:11, NKJ, "In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of (Him) who works all things..." For Ephesians 1:13, I go with the NASB which translates two "whom" occurances as "Him". Thus I would say that in Him we trusted, believing the gospel, and we were sealed in Him with the holy spirit of promise which is given as a pledge of our inheritance. We view the redemption as adopted sons, being God's own possession. From the heart, Ray |
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1879 | Judgment Day? | 1 Pet 4:17 | Ray | 124084 | ||
Hi mommapbs, I agree with Tim Moran. It is not a matter of condemnation but a time for judgment and decision making. Perhaps the first decision to make is to decide whether to include in your personal copy of the Scriptures, the last part of 1 Peter 4:14. 1 Peter 4:14, NKJ, "...On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified." From the heart, Ray |
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1880 | Jake's Expository Notes | 2 Pet 1:3 | Ray | 142347 | ||
Hi StJake, Thank you for your post. I am sorry if you were turned off by the poster here. As one who is interested in capitalization, I appreciated your note on the difference between "reverence" and "God-likeness"; the difference between "godliness" and "Godliness". I think that it relates to knowing the things of this life and knowing the Life, also. His divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness. From the heart, Ray |
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