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1 | Predestination | Eccl 6:10 | New Creature | 197515 | ||
lionheart Thanks for the reply. Good thoughts In Him NC |
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2 | Predestination | Eccl 6:10 | New Creature | 197506 | ||
Doc While I appreciate the fact that you took the time to compose a lengthy reply, it doesn't specifically address the main question I asked you in my previous reply, which was whether or not you would be willing to remain just as consistant in how you interpret "all" (pas) when it comes to the other verses which I posted in my last reply to you, as you were in your one post to rachellynn. In Him NC |
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3 | Predestination | Eccl 6:10 | New Creature | 197465 | ||
Doc said: "According to the apostle Paul, God 'works all things according to the counsel of His will' (Ephesians 1:11). Paul said all things; not some things or even most things but all things." This is one of the few times I have ever seen someone of the Reformed faith say that "all" really does mean "all" and not some. Doc; I hope you are consistant and believe "all" in each of the following verses means "all" and not some. John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto myself. 1 Ti 2:4 who would have all men to be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth. 1 Tim 2:6 who gave himself a ransom for all; the testimony to be borne in its own times; 1 Tim 4:10 For to this end we labor and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of them that believe. Tit 2:11 For the grace of God hath appeared, bringing salvation to all men P.S. before you ask, no I am not a universalist theologically speaking. Let me close with this quote from an Early Reformer named Zanchi. "God doesn't decree which individuals will be saved, but rather decrees what sort of individuals will be saved, namely believers in Christ Jesus." Yours in Christ NC |
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4 | Fall away and backsliding different? | Luke 8:13 | New Creature | 197454 | ||
Dear Brad You posted the following The Bible Knowledge Commentary says this: "The second group are those who listen and rejoice but then do not stick with the truth of the message for they have no root (v. 13). The fact that they believe for a while but . . . fall away means that they only accept the facts of the Word mentally and then reject it when “the going gets rough.” It does not mean they lose their salvation, for they had none to lose." It appears to me that the BKC is doing a bit of eisegesis in that commentary. I don't see "believe" in Luke 8:13 as being defined as head knowledge, but the word "believe" in that verse is pisteuo which means to actually have faith in the person of Christ. At least thats how it looks from where I'm sitting. Yours in Him NC |
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5 | What does it mean to "fall away"? | Luke 8:13 | New Creature | 197430 | ||
Jeff; I meant to include this in my last reply as well. "All synods or councils since the apostles' times, whether general or particular, may err, and many have erred; therefore they are not to be made the rule of faith or practice" - Westminster Confession Of Faith |
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6 | What does it mean to "fall away"? | Luke 8:13 | New Creature | 197429 | ||
Jeff thank you for your answer. I'm glad you didn't say that writtings of sincere men of the past can be fully trusted. If you did, I would have been concerned. Yours in Him NC |
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7 | What does it mean to "fall away"? | Luke 8:13 | New Creature | 197388 | ||
Jeff Not everything written or taught by sincere men of the past should be discarded. I just believe we need to chew on the meat and spit out the bones. We need to be Berean's and compare what men say with with what Scripture says. Scripture alone can be fully trusted. As far as blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, or the unforgiveable sin, which ever you prefer to call it is concerned, my basic definition as I understand it would be: Continual rejection of the Holy Spirit’s promptings to trust in Jesus Christ is the unpardonable blasphemy. May I ask you a question? Question - Do you believe the words of men layed down in past works, creeds and confessions are without error, and need to be accepted as such? Your's in Him NC |
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8 | What does it mean to "fall away"? | Luke 8:13 | New Creature | 197387 | ||
Jeff Not everything written or taught by sincere men of the past should be discarded. I just believe we need to chew on the meat and spit out the bones. We need to be Berean's and compare what men say with with what Scripture says. Scripture alone can be fully trusted. As far as blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, or the unforgiveable sin, which ever you prefer to call it is concerned, my basic definition as I understand it would be: Continual rejection of the Holy Spirit’s promptings to trust in Jesus Christ is the unpardonable blasphemy. May I ask you a question? Question - Do you believe the words of men layed down in past works, creeds and confessions are without error, and need to be accepted as such? Your's in Him NC |
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9 | Basis of election and predestination? | Eph 1:5 | New Creature | 197296 | ||
Doc I purposely kept my response short because it is evident from your replies that you would like to convince me that Reformed teaching and what you describe as "The Doctrines of Grace" is without any fault. Now if thats what you want to believe, then fine. I have studied those same doctrines along side the Scriptures and I personally believe those doctrines which you cherish are not entirely compatable with Scripture. At the same time I prefer not to get into a long drawn out discussion on Reformed doctrine. It's not a matter of which of us is right. The only thing that matters is the fact that Scripture is right. The criteria I use for determining truth from error is Scripture. I don't attempt to make my theology line up with Scripture, I allow Scripture to form my theology. While God has placed many good teachers within the body, we still need to be good Berean's and search the Scriptures daily to see whether or not what we read and hear from men is indeed true (Acts 17:11). The Holy Spirit alone is called the Spirit of truth (Jn 14:17; 15:26). The Holy Spirit guides all those whom He indwells, not just me. (Jn 14:26; 16:13) and leads each genuine believer who trust in Him into a gradual unfolding of the truth. 1 John 2:27 And as for you, the anointing which ye received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any one teach you; but as his anointing teacheth you; concerning all things, and is true, and is no lie, and even as it taught you, ye abide in him. My theology wasn't formed all at once. It came gradually and painstakingly, line upon line, and by holding up the Scriptures as my final authority for all faith and practice. Today we have the priesthood of every genuine believer (1 Pet 2:5,9) along with all it's entiltlement. Lastly, I agree the men of the past who formed various schools of theology were sincere. However sincerity doesn't guarantee absolute truth. I am not here to defend or support them. I intend to defend the Scriptures. Paul was especially able to state that the gospel which he preached did not come from man, but was received and passed along from him to us by Divine revelation: Gal 1:11 For I make known to you, brethren, as touching the gospel which was preached by me, that it is not after man. Gal 1:12 For neither did I receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came to me through revelation of Jesus Christ. I don't understand why you want to draw my attention away from the Scriptures to devote my attention to the words of men which I have already studied quite intensely in the past. They don't fully line up with Scripture and in some respects can mislead the undiscerning who are not trusting in Sola Scriptura as their final authority. Why did the Reformers cry Sola Scriptura if what they really meant was Sola Scriptura whenever it agrees with the Doctrines of Grace, Westminister Confession, TULIP etc? Ok I better stop here before I too carried away. Peace NC |
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10 | Basis of election and predestination? | Eph 1:5 | New Creature | 197283 | ||
Doc I am happy that you have found great solace in the Doctrines of grace. I hope you're just as happy for me that I find my solace in allowing the Holy Spirit to lead and guide me through the Scriptures, now that I have studied the doctrines men present on both ends of the spectrum of theology and have found them lacking in many various ways. Peace to you NC |
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11 | Basis of election and predestination? | Eph 1:5 | New Creature | 197250 | ||
Doc I possess the works of Arminius, however that shouldn't be construed to mean I agree with everything in those works. I certainly don't. At the same time I find that I have just as much disagreement with Calvinistic doctrine. I arrive at my own personal theology through Scriptures apart from any theological school of thought. Doc. with all due repect you seem eager to pass along your Reformed beliefs to others. I have likewise studied the doctrines of grace, and find a good portion of them offensive. But I won't go into the details in an attempt to not anger anyone. Sola Scriptura Yours in Christ NC |
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12 | Basis of election and predestination? | Eph 1:5 | New Creature | 197249 | ||
I thought they were excellent and uninfluenced by the necessities of man's theology. I was very interested in how Shank presented a Christocentric election. I also loved how Shank handled the topic of the reprobate, especilayy when he stated; "If no man, either elect or reprobate, can resist the will of God, against whom or what is the Spirit striving when He "strives with man"? Another great comment from Shank I enjoyed was: "While the election of particular men is contingent on the condition of faith, the election of the body is unconditional in the sense that election is an eternal purpose of God - the kingdom purpose of God which antedates creation." |
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13 | Basis of election and predestination? | Eph 1:5 | New Creature | 197237 | ||
Thanks for the advice Tim. First of all I realize the truth of what you say. Secondly, I don't plan on hotly pursing this topic. I am only going to interject with short bits which are mainly food for thought. Lastly I have read Shank's work several times. Yours in His precious name |
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14 | Basis of election and predestination? | Eph 1:5 | New Creature | 197236 | ||
Hello Michael You stated; "Faith is itself the gift of God to His elect" Based upon that statement, let me counter by saying that if faith is a gift then why does Rom 8:17 say "faith comes by hearing" If faith was merely a gift, it would simply be given without the neccesity of hearing. I have read where Spurgeon described faith as a grasp rather than a gift. "I believe that, although I cannot swim, yonder friendly plank will support me in the flood, I grasp it, and am saved: the grasp is faith." - Spurgeon - The Warrant of Faith. |
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15 | Does God choose us? | Jon 2:9 | New Creature | 193550 | ||
My posted notes have raised theological questions, but I don't see how they could be said to be unamicable. I haven't called anyone names or labeled anyone who disagrees as teaching that which is false. I believe my questions have been respectful and honest. I don't personally know in what manner I have not kept up my end of the agreement to remain peaceable in discussing a few of the more difficult theological question that often arise. Isn't that why this forum is titled STUDYBIBLE forum. Isn't that what we are currently doing? | ||||||
16 | Does God choose us? | Jon 2:9 | New Creature | 193530 | ||
If God is truly in control of all things, then he must cause every event, be it human or otherwise. And if He controls every event including the choices people make, then why are humans found at fault for choices which were beyond their contol to begin with? |
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17 | Does God choose us? | Jon 2:9 | New Creature | 193470 | ||
I would like to make a comment on a portion of your Mark Webb quote. Webb stated: "If you perish in hell, blame yourself, as it is entirely your fault. But if you should make it to heaven, credit God, for that is entirely His work!" So let me see if I understand If you are saved, it's entirely God's doing, and not to your credit at all. If you are damned, it's entirely your own fault, and not God's fault at all (even though God controls everything). |
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18 | Can MY faith in Christ save me? | Eph 2:8 | New Creature | 193033 | ||
In Ephesians 2:8, faith is not the gift. Faith is how we receive the gift. Paul is not here speaking directly of faith, but of salvation. He is affirming that salvation is the gift of God. That is made more clear in the following Scripture. Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. D. L. Moody once said, "Some say that faith is the gift of God. So is the air, but you have to breathe it; so is bread, but you have to eat it; so is water, but you have to drink it. |
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19 | body piercings and why not | Lev 19:28 | New Creature | 186045 | ||
You seem to be supportive of body piercing. Can you post anything from the New Testament which lends support to that practice. I know the following verse in the New Testament is addressed to woman, but I also believe it should apply all the more to men. 1 Pet 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be the outward adorning of braiding the hair, and of wearing jewels of gold, or of putting on apparel; 1 Pet 3:4 but let it be the hidden man of the heart, in the incorruptible apparel of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. In other words we should be more concerned about the internal inward condition, rather than outward external adornment. |
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20 | does God chose who he will save | Eph 1:1 | New Creature | 185891 | ||
The point is, man doesn't have the ability to exercise faith on his own initiative unless God first gives him the ability to respond in faith. Once again Scripture clearly says: John 6:44 - NO ONE IS ABLE to come to Me UNLESS the Father who sent Me draws him In the conversion of the sinner God enlightens the mind John 6:45, he inclines the will Psalm 110:3, and he influences the soul by motives, by just views of his law, by his love, his commands, and his threatenings; by a desire of happiness, and a consciousness of danger; by the Holy Spirit applying truth to the mind, and urging him to yield himself to the Saviour. So that, while God inclines him, and will have all the glory, man yields without compulsion; the obstacles are removed, and he becomes a willing servant of God. - Barnes Notes |
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