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21 | torment in hell annihilation in the lake | Rev 19:20 | Movingon | 241213 | ||
Hey EdB, Yours was a good response to allisraelsaved. He indeed is on dangerous ground. He is trying to re-write what the Scriptures say with worldly wisdom. Paul the Apostle said: “…the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God” (1Co 3:19. It is noticeable that he did not back up his words with Scripture which could not be otherwise when one is trying to deny what the Word says. The danger he is promoting can mislead other weaker Brothers and Sisters in Christ and his heresy must be exposed for what it is. To allisraelsaved. I like your user name if indeed you are speaking of ethnic Israel. I also believe all Israel will be redeemed (Rom. 11:25-26). Please do not be offended allisraelsaved with my words. I only am writing this for the good of Brothers and Sisters in Christ who might be misled. As to all Israel being saved and redeemed, the Scriptutres say: "For on My holy mountain, on the mountain height of Israel,” says the Lord God, “there all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, shall serve Me; there I will accept them, and there I will require your offerings and the first-fruit’s of your sacrifices, together with all your holy things. “I will accept you as a sweet aroma when I bring you out from the peoples and gather you out of the countries where you have been scattered; and I will be hallowed in you before the Gentiles. “Then you shall know that I am the Lord, when I bring you into the land of Israel, into the country for which I lifted My hand in and oath to give to your fathers. “And there you shall remember your ways and all your doings with which you were defiled; and you shall loathe yourselves in your own sight because of all the evils that you have committed. “Then you shall know that I am the Lord, when I have dealt with you for My name’s sake, not according to your wicked ways nor according to your corrupt doings, O house of Israel,” says the Lord God" (Ezekiel 20:40 44. Furthermore: "Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own ways and deeds; to Me their way was like the uncleanness of a woman in her customary impurity. “Therefore I poured out My fury on them for the blood they had shed on the land, and for their idols with which they had defiled it. “So I scattered them among the nations, and they were dispersed throughout the countries; I judged them according to their ways and their deeds. “When they came to the nations, wherever they went, they profaned My holy name when they said of them, ‘these are the people of the Lord, and yet they have gone out of His land.’ “But I had concern for My holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the nations where they had gone. “Therefore say to the house of Israel, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “I do not do this for your sake, O house of Israel, but for My holy name’s sake, which you have profaned among the nations wherever you went. “And I will sanctify My great name, which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in their midst; and the nations shall know that I am the Lord,” says the Lord God, “when I am hallowed in you before their eyes” (Ezek. 36:17 23). Keep up the good work EdB. In His grace Movingon |
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22 | Is the water the preached word of god? | Rev 21:6 | Movingon | 240123 | ||
Concerning Eph. 5:26 Mommapbs asks: What is this "washing?" Of all the answers one thing is obvious. The Scriptures that explains what the washing is, is totally ignored. It seems to me the best and to the point is The Amplied New Testament which says: “…having cleansed her with the washing of water with the word,…” “With the Word”, is speaking of two things, not one explaining the other. To be explicit on baptism, Peter said to the Jews when they realized they had crucified and murdered their King: “…what shall we do?” Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” (Acts 2:38). Peter also explains baptism in 1Pet. 3:20-21. Paul the apostle speaks of sins being forgiven and his new birth when he was taken to Ananias who said to Saul of Tarsus who became Paul the apostle: “…you will be His witness to all men of what you have seen and heard. ‘And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord" (Acts.22:14-16). May I kindly say: the washing above is the same washing Paul speaks of in Eph. 5:26. When speaking of the time of salvation of the believer Paul said to the Roman and Colossians churches: "Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection" (Rom. 6:3-5). When Paul speaks of being buried with Christ, he is speaking of emersion in water and as one comes out of the water they are raised by the Holy Spirit to new life like Christ who arose from the grave. “…buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with [Him] through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead” (Col. 2:13). Here it is plain that “through our faith” in the working of God we are regenerated by the Holy Spirit as we come up out of the water (grave). Paul in Acts 19:2-6 when speaking to some disciples of John the Baptist asked them if they had received the Holy Spirit and they said they didn’t know there was a Holy Spirit. He then baptized them in water and when he laid hands on them they received the Holy Spirit. Again, both water and Holy Spirit baptism is clearly seen. "For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free—and have all been made to drink into one Spirit” (1Cor. 12:13). It is understood that the above words of instruction from Peter and Paul will not be accepted by most evangelical Christians. However, it is more important to listen to the Word’s of Scripture since that is what we will be judged by, rather than what scholars and teachers say. Those who disagree with what is written here always bring up the following remark by Paul supposedly to prove that Paul did not teach water baptism. "For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect” (1 Cor. 1:17). But they always leave off the very thing that shows very plainly that Paul did teach water baptism and had baptized others but explains why he did not normally do it himself. "I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, lest anyone should say that I had baptized in my own name. Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas. Besides, I do not know whether I baptized any other" (1Cor. 1:14-16). Paul also baptized 12 disciples of John the Baptist. We have a plain and easy to understand case of water baptism with Philip and a eunuch when he preached Jesus to him (Acts 8:36-38). “Now as they went down the road, they came to some water. And the eunuch said, "See, here is water. What hinders me from being baptized?" Then Philip said, "If you believe with all your heart, you may." And he answered and said, "I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." So he commanded the chariot to stand still. And both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him” (Acts 19:1-6). It is very plain here again that it was his faith in Jesus that brought about his salvation. It is certainly not being said that God will not save anyone apart from water baptism. I myself was born of the Spirit of God before water baptism. But it is plain that both Peter and Paul and Philip taught water baptism as a physical act of initiation. So often when one is confronted with Scripture about a simple and plain truth, they imediately say: “well I think;” it doesn’t matter what we "think". What matters is what the Word says? In His grace movingon |
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