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1 | Why the confusion over the 70th week? | Dan 9:26 | Lemont | 176833 | ||
Mark: A parenthetical passage does not need to follow the chronological pattern of that which precedes and follows; thus the reason it's placed in parenthesis. It is supplemental information - in this case, that this temple that is to be restored will also later be destroyed. Do you agree that Jesus became the "Anointed One" not when he rode into Jerusalem on an ass (as some would say), but when Holy Spirit came upon him in the Jordan river at his baptism? If so, you are well on your way to understanding that the 70th week follows with Jesus being cutoff (cruxified) in the half of that week (3.5 years later). Jesus put the covenant in place for the Jews - that's who he was sent to and that's who the apostles continued to extend the kingdom wedding invitation to until Peter was shown (at the end of the 70th week, 3.5 years after Jesus' death) that now Gentiles like Cornelius were being invited. All three time markers have come and gone, fulfilled right on time! Now the tribulation - no one will know exactly when it will begin or end, as Jesus clearly stated. But his disciples will know the "season" and they will be the ones prepared to be taken along into what God has in store for those who love him and obey the good news about the Christ, Jesus. Regards, Lemont |
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2 | Why the confusion over the 70th week? | Dan 9:26 | Lemont | 176834 | ||
Mark: A parenthetical passage does not need to follow the chronological pattern of that which precedes and follows; thus the reason it's placed in parenthesis. It is supplemental information - in this case, that this temple that is to be restored will also later be destroyed. Do you agree that Jesus became the "Anointed One" not when he rode into Jerusalem on an ass (as some would say), but when Holy Spirit came upon him in the Jordan river at his baptism? If so, you are well on your way to understanding that the 70th week follows with Jesus being cutoff (cruxified) in the half of that week (3.5 years later). Jesus put the covenant in place for the Jews - that's who he was sent to and that's who the apostles continued to extend the kingdom wedding invitation to until Peter was shown (at the end of the 70th week, 3.5 years after Jesus' death) that now Gentiles like Cornelius were being invited. All three time markers have come and gone, fulfilled right on time! Now the tribulation - no one will know exactly when it will begin or end, as Jesus clearly stated. But his disciples will know the "season" and they will be the ones prepared to be taken along into what God has in store for those who love him and obey the good news about the Christ, Jesus. Regards, Lemont |
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3 | Why the confusion over the 70th week? | Dan 9:26 | Lemont | 176864 | ||
Mark: Let's pretend we're two wide-eyed humble children seeking the truth without any preconceived or previously learned ideas. (I know I have them too.) Since neither of us are Greek scholars, will use the rules of English grammar. 26) And after sixty two weeks, Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself. And the people of a coming ruler shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end shall be with the flood, and ruins are determined, and war shall be until the end. (27) And he shall confirm a covenant with the many for one week. And in the middle of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease. V. 26 refers to "Messiah" - a "he". It next refers, parenthetically, to "a people of a coming ruler" - a "they" that will destroy the city. Given the facts that there is only one "he" referred to previously - Messiah and the intermediate passage is parenthetical, it is more than reasonable to read v.27 as stating that Messiah shall confirm a covenant. Any attempt to apply the covenant to the Romans or to say that they caused the sacrifices to cease when they would have been repugnant to God for many years by then is contrived. Jesus was no "prince" or "ruler" at his birth, but as a mature man at his baptism, he presented himself to do his Father's will and commenced to leading those that would inherit the Kingdom. Thus, again, when his 3.5 year ministry ended, he presented his spotless and unblemished sacrificial body to God as a sacrifice that would cause all animal sacrifices to cease - at least to cease having value in the eyes of God. I hope I don't sound argumentative. Like Paul, my words can seem bold but my mannerisms/appearance in person are not very impressive. Of course, I do not claim to measure in any way to the quality of teacher that Paul was. I hope you are enjoying our spirited discussion as much as I am. Lemont |
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4 | Verifying following the of the law | Matt 5:17 | Lemont | 176880 | ||
Do you have a minister that preaches tithing? That's usually the ones that conveniently overlook Jesus' words: "till all be fulfilled." That Christians are no longer bound by the Mosaic Law is also clear from Paul's writings, such as "Christ is the end of the Law, so that everyone exercising faith may have righteousness. Sin must not be master over you, seeing that you are not under law but under undeserved kindness."—Rom. 10:4; 6:14. The principles of the Law are perfect and still apply and Paul even stated specifically that we need to abstain from idols and blood, part of the Law. The Law of Christ is a law based on freedom - God has always purposed to have his intelligent creatures serve him out of love. Don't let your minister take your love away - if you can't give 10 percent (of your time, energy and resources) - don't, but if you can give more - by all means do, just make sure it doesn't pay his mortgage! Lemont |
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5 | Augustine's influence -good or bad? | Luke 14:23 | Lemont | 176299 | ||
Hank: I like your Scriptural response. I've heard this before about Augustine, but hear is a quick reference from a Google search that you can follow up on: Augustine, setting forth the principle of Cognite Intrare ("Compel them to enter"), Christ's infamous mandate that all must become Christian -- by force, if necessary; Cognite Intrare would be used throughout the Middle Ages to justify the Church's suppression of dissent and oppression of difference, in Walter Nigg, The Heretics: Heresy Through the Ages (1962), p. 138, quoted from Helen Ellerbe, The Dark Side of Christian History, critical editing by Cliff Walker Also, although Luke commends the Bereans for there verification of Paul's teachings, its clear that their was only one channel for truth - and it was to speak in agreement. The Ethiopian realized that he could not learn the truth of Isaiah's prophecy apart from a someone sent by God. (Acts 8:30,31) When Jesus mentions the ability to identify "false prophets" by their fruit - What fruit is he referring to? Fruits of the Holy Spirit or something else? (Mt 7:15-20; Gal 5:22-24) Lemont |
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6 | Augustine's influence -good or bad? | Luke 14:23 | Lemont | 176344 | ||
Tim: This is just one teaching of Augustine, but it is representative of his Pharisaic attitude. Jesus' words are plain: "As you enter the home, give it your greeting. If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you. If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town." (Mt 10:12-14) No forced conversions spoken of here. When simple instructions of Christ are twisted by professed Christians, I can only recall Paul's counsel at 2 Cor 4:3,4; 11:14,15. The "god of this world" has always had his ministers, and the ones following them will follow them right into the pit. Last night on TV there was a program: AIDS in Black America. When asked why he wasn't discussing AIDS with the flock (he was fleecing), one minister masquerading as an "angel of light" said that the apostle Paul had not written anything concerning AIDS that he could relate! What Bible does he use? Yes, I agree with you and Hank about checking the Scriptures, but Christians welcome Christlike oversight and need it. The Scriptures will surely help honest-hearted individuals to recognize a wolf in sheep's covering, and save more than their hard-earned money - their life! Lemont |
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7 | Three will, two or just one? | Luke 22:42 | Lemont | 176340 | ||
Hank: Since this is essential, I just want to make sure I understand. Jesus appears in this account to want "the cup" to be removed (reasons not important to my immediate question). But he wants the Father's will to be done, so he is willing to go along with whatever happens. This would imply two distinct wills. Am I correct? Lemont |
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