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61 | THE CROSS | John 3:16 | JibbyJee | 89951 | ||
Greetings Mike! Those are great points. I also think John 8:47 speaks clearly about the necessity of regeneration prior to ability to "hear" the Good News! Just think of the infinite wisdom God has revealed to us!!! Good talking to you again, Mike! Thank you Lord, for your mercy! In Christ, JIBBS |
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62 | THE CROSS | John 3:16 | JibbyJee | 89953 | ||
Hello again Tim! OK. I wish this was real time so we could ask the questions before the 20 rabbit trails develop. I know you're not doing it on purpose, but nevertheless, it happens and it seems like we're on two different pages. Regarding logic and the atonement. I CAN support my position very effectively with an abundance of Scripture, but that Scripture will be meaningless to you if we don't define a few things under common agreement. So for now, let's make defining ATONEMENT the main priority before we move on. Also, I agree with you 100 percent that we should never place logic alone above God or His revealed Word. But neither should we believe the ILLOGICAL can be supported by Scripture. I don't believe God is the author of confusion. Within confusion there are contradictions. So God is not the author of contradictions. Please explain to me the following your opinion in as much detail as possible: What was the purpose of the Atonement? What effect did the atonement have on the world? When does the atonement become effective? Was Christ's atonement vicarious or symbolic? Hopefully this will be a good starting place. Also, in future discussions on this topic, please keep in mind (but no need to answer now) this questions: Did He or didn't He?? Did Christ pay (atone) for all the sins of the world or didn't He? Did He satisfy the wrath of God or didn't He? Gentlemen, START YOUR ENGINES! In Christ, JIBBS |
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63 | THE CROSS | John 3:16 | JibbyJee | 89954 | ||
Tim The word ELECT is used MANY times in the Bible, particularly in the NT to signify PEOPLE. Now, these people are not just one big collective group but also are each ELECT individuals. Elect individuals gathered together comprise an elect group. But the emphasis is on elect as a personal individual basis signifying a special relationship between specific men and God. Therefore, the "election of grace" argument is a moot point. Please be honest with Scripture. The Bible is not Webster's dictionary. There are many doctrinal issues we must interpret and define by consistent exegesis and inferrance. Just because it's not specifically defined doesn't mean it's not true. The trinity is a good example of this. My friend, you've deferred to the search thing before, and I must confess I've had no success digging anything up in the past with that method. So I'll just have to pass on that. I don't know how you can call election corporate in light of verses like the golden chain, Romans 8:28-30: Rom 8:28 And we know that to them that love God all things work together for good, even to them that are called according to his purpose. Rom 8:29 For whom he foreknew, he also foreordained to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren: Rom 8:30 and whom he foreordained, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. Have a good weekend, Tim! JIBBS |
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64 | THE CROSS | John 3:16 | JibbyJee | 89955 | ||
Hi Brad! I emailed you a few weeks ago but never got a response. (I almost forgot I even sent it!) Shame on me! But I was wondering if you got it or if maybe I mistook your email for junkmail and deleted it. I hope not. In Christ, JIBBS |
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65 | Willing to believe? | John 6:44 | JibbyJee | 88224 | ||
Greetings Elizabeth! While I may possibly be simply misunderstanding you, I wanted to clarify that God doesn't draw Christians to Him through Jesus Christ, but rather He draws sinners to Him throught Jesus Christ, thereby making them "Christians" (Romans 5:8). May only be semantics, but to me it's a huge doctrinal issue. Peace and Love, JibbyJee |
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66 | Who does the Father draw to Christ? | John 6:44 | JibbyJee | 88225 | ||
Dear Slide: Not only does that view run contrary to TULIP, but it also runs contrary to consistent Biblical interpretation. ;) But as I can see, you are aware of that. Under the Arminian veiw, the Blood of Christ has absolutely NO redemptive value in and of itself, because even when it's shed and applied to someone, it can't cleanse, redeem, or save them. They "must" exercise their "free will" to empower the Blood and make it efficacious. Using 2 Peter 3:9 to support that view is grossly out of context. Believers are the elect "before the foundation of the world" (Eph 1:4) and don't make themselves elect at their own whim (Rom 9:16; John 1:13). We cannot believe because we don't desire to until God regenerates our heart so that we can understand our own condition (Titus 3:5; 1 Cor. 2:14). That should give you a starting point into the Doctrines of Grace. Blessings in Christ, JibbyJee |
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67 | Reformed and Arminian Gospel Preaching | Rom 1:18 | JibbyJee | 86484 | ||
You wrote: "God died for all people" Do you mean Christ died to redeem all people? Does His atonement save people or make them able to be saved? Jibbs |
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68 | God's plan | Rom 1:18 | JibbyJee | 88847 | ||
Greetings Joe! I've been sitting here for the last 20 minutes reading this post and just thought I'd let you know that I really appreciate the teaching you've done here and give you some encouragement to keep up the good work. The key to understanding the whole of Scripture is a right understanding of the Sovereign nature of the Lord. You've done well to demonstate this truth for all who have ears to hear. John 8:47. In Christ, Jibbs |
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69 | Why do we not keep the 7th day Sabbath | Col 2:16 | JibbyJee | 88845 | ||
Dear Vivene: Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: There ya go! In Christ, Jibbs |
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70 | Why do we not keep the 7th day Sabbath | Col 2:16 | JibbyJee | 88904 | ||
Greetings Nosnarc! I believe you are free in Christ do observe Sat. or Sun. as your Sabbath. The reason being, of course, is because Jesus is the FULFILLMENT of the Sabbath (Matt. 12:8, Mark 2:28, Luke 6:5, John 7:23). I believe the Saturday Sabbath marked the Day God rested from the Creation, thus pointed to Christ, whereas Sunday Sabbath signifies Redemption which has been accomplished in Christ. Therefore, as He has become our Sabbath, and we rest in him (Heb. 4:8-11), we observe the day of Redemption (a Sunday marked the historical Resurrection) as our Sabbath. But this is all my opinion and I don't believe it's an issue to divide over, although there are cults out there that wish to do so to their own peril (Col. 2:16). Hope that helps! In Christ, Jibbs |
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71 | meaning and process of sanctification | 1 Thess 5:23 | JibbyJee | 89025 | ||
Mickodemes, Grettings in the Lord! It's good to see the Westminster Confession quoted here once in a while. Go into your profile and tell us all a bit about yourself...AND WELCOME TO THE FORUM! Soli Deo Gloria! Jibbs |
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72 | What in the world was Paul thinking?!? | 2 Tim 4:18 | JibbyJee | 89017 | ||
Greetings Hank! Thank you for the kind words! I hope those who don't believe in the perseverance of the saints will see that Paul certainly believed in it. I also pray people will receive the great joy and peace that is found in knowing what we hope for is sure! Christ can't lose a Christian!! In Christ, JibbyJee |
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73 | What in the world was Paul thinking?!? | 2 Tim 4:18 | JibbyJee | 89444 | ||
Greetings John! Welcome to the Forum and thanks for your reply! It's wonderful to see a 14 yearold in here standing up for Jesus! Bring all your friends! I'm ONLY 27, by the way, (to make all the old folks like Hank feel even OLDER (just kiddin' Hank!)). Now, a parody is something, like a skit or a play, or even something written like this that uses sarcasm to make a point (sometimes used to make fun of an opposing view by using metaphorical language). In the case of the post you've responded to, I was using it to use sarcasm to make the point that the Apostle Paul KNEW he was saved AND going to Heaven. Now, there are a lot of misinformed people out there who will tell you that you can lose your salvation, but that is pure nonsense and heresy. If you are saved now, you will be saved when you die. If you say you're saved now and have turned away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ and never return before you die, then you were never truly saved to begin with (1 John 2:19). I invite you to read my post again, now that you know that I, just like you do, believe wholeheartedly in the doctrine of the Perseverance of the Saints (once-saved-always-saved), and was using sarcasm to make my point. Soli Deo Gloria! JIBBS PS What's your favorite verse or passage of the Bible? Mine is all of Romans 9 or John 6. |
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74 | What in the world was Paul thinking?!? | 2 Tim 4:18 | JibbyJee | 89952 | ||
Hi John! Good to hear from you again! That was great advice your youth minister gave you. Where you starting out in your daily reading? I recommend the Gospel of John. It's my favorite of the Gospels. Take care! In Christ, JIBBS |
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75 | What in the world was Paul thinking?!? | 2 Tim 4:18 | JibbyJee | 96284 | ||
Dear brother allen: Thank you for your response and for your concern. I truly appreciate the value of God's Word and the seriousness by which we should adore it, so please understand that I in no way was attempting to make a parody of God's Word, but was rather being sarcastic toward all those who teach that true saints can lose their salvation. I believe Paul knew he was saved, that is, he was declared justified by the imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ and that he was absolutely assured Christ would guide him safely into Heaven. As you will soon find out, many people here at Lockman forum, such as yourself, do not believe one can be so certain of salvation. I think this is one of the many verses that force them to realize they are teaching a doctrine that false simply because it is contrary to the certainty the Apostle Paul, as well as other Biblical persons did indeed have. We have two options. Trust in our own righteousness or trust in the righteousness of Christ on our behalf. Please consider that. thanks. Sincerely, JIBBS ps welcome to the forum! |
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76 | What in the world was Paul thinking?!? | 2 Tim 4:18 | JibbyJee | 96285 | ||
Good post radioman2 Sincerely, Jibbs |
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77 | Our name erased or added to Book of Life | Rev 13:8 | JibbyJee | 87287 | ||
Greetings EdB! I agree with you that the various versions are essentially saying the same thing. However, my own understanding of what is said in Rev. 22:19 persuades me that it is not talking about someone having their name taken out of the Lamb's Book of Life. We need to carefully evaluate these things with a balanced view of all of Scripture. God's Word is not contradictory (1 Cor. 14:33). I would suggest to you that he who commits the blasphemous sin spoken of in verse 19 commits the impardonable sin as well (1 John 5:16) and was never a true disciple of Christ to begin with (1 John 2:19). Having done so, it is impossible for that person to be brought back to repentance because of the eternally heinous nature of the crime against God and His Word (Heb. 6:3-6). You may think this is spitting hairs as well, and I respect your opinion, but I think the assumption that you're reading into verse 19 is not necessarily correct. That assumption being that the person is literally removed from the Book as if he was previously there. The verse does not clearly imply that conclusion. It could just as easily be that the verse is simply reiterating the point that the person will NEVER be able to be saved and receive eternal life. Do you agree with me that both are legitimate possibilities that need to be understood in light of all of Scripture? 1Jo 5:13 These things have I written unto you, that ye may know that ye have eternal life, even unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God. Phi 1:3 I thank my God upon all my remembrance of you, Phi 1:4 always in every supplication of mine on behalf of you all making my supplication with joy, Phi 1:5 for your fellowship in furtherance of the gospel from the first day until now; Phi 1:6 being confident of this very thing, that he who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Jesus Christ: take care. Alive in Jesus, JibbyJee |
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78 | Our name erased or added to Book of Life | Rev 13:8 | JibbyJee | 87289 | ||
Phi 1:3 I thank my God upon all my remembrance of you, Phi 1:4 always in every supplication of mine on behalf of you all making my supplication with joy, Phi 1:5 for your fellowship in furtherance of the gospel from the first day until now; Phi 1:6 being confident of this very thing, that he who began a good work in you will perfect it until the day of Jesus Christ: Greetings DL! I just have one question for you. Who began the good work in you? Alive in Christ, JibbyJee |
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79 | Our name erased or added to Book of Life | Rev 13:8 | JibbyJee | 87371 | ||
Greetings DL Respectfully, sir, I disagree with the idea/conclusion that Rev 22:19 automatically means someone's name is there to begin with. The verse is saying that if they had any hope at all of being saved it was lost when they perverted the Word of God, thereby forfeiting their place in the Tree of Life (or Book) forever. You still didn't take my question to it's full extent. If Jesus was the one who started the good work in you, and the Bible says He will finish it (that's a promise!) then you are saying He fails to do what He purposes to do. Phi. 1:6 directly contradicts your interpretation. So does 1 John 2:19. We must base our doctrine in light of all of Scripture. In the Potter's Service, JibbyJee |
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80 | Our name erased or added to Book of Life | Rev 13:8 | JibbyJee | 87442 | ||
Greetings DL! Before I reply to your last post, I must ask you to answer the question about Philippians 1:6 regarding Jesus not only beginning the work (salvation) in us but also promising to finish it. I don't see how your last response answers that question at all. You've brought predestination into the mix and somehow implied that it (the doctrine of predestination) is connected to using liberty as an excuse to continue in sin. I never heard of Christians who believe they can continue to sin willingly and still be saved. So I'm not sure why you made that statement. In fact, I'm not entirely sure why you posted any of it regarding the course of our dialogue. Nevertheless, I will make an attempt to address your concerns. As I said earlier, I'm not sure what your point is about the predestination/liberty statement. Of course I agree with it, but I just not sure how it relates to our conversation. Likewise I'm going to need you to explain how Christians still being in the flesh as anything to do with choosing our own destiny. I could equally say it does not have anything to do with it. In fact, Scripture says that flesh is worthless. Therefore, it has no eternally profitable bearing on your life or mine. Look at these Scriptures: Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that giveth life; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I have spoken unto you are spirit, are are life. Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh: Rom 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were through the law, wrought in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. Rom 7:18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me, but to do that which is good is not. Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then I of myself with the mind, indeed, serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: Rom 8:4 that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Rom 8:8 and they that are in the flesh cannot please God. If I'm understanding you correctly, you are saying that you can somehow make good of the flesh. Paul understood that He couldn't as shown in the verses above. We are saved by grace, through faith (Eph. 2:8-9) which is a work that God does (John 3:6; Eph 2:10), based upon the will of God, not man (Eph. 1:4; Rom. 9:16). That's all I have time for right now. Sorry about that. I'll try to get back when I can. In Christ, JibbyJee |
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