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181 | why must Catholics "doubly" confess? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 57131 | ||
dasev, "those who ascribe to roman catholic doctrine in its totality really are not intellectualy honest regarding history or the Word." dasev Really? Maybe next time I go to confession I will confess someone else's sins following your example. Catholics are normally in the habit of confessing their own. Emmaus |
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182 | Thankful To Be Alive! | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 57399 | ||
Hank, Good to see you still posting from this side. Thank God for giving you more time with us through the ministrations of the doctors. Just don't go getting all serious on us. Emmaus |
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183 | deeds of the law | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 57827 | ||
dasev, One on one is fine with me. Emmaus |
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184 | why must Catholics "doubly" confess? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 57829 | ||
dasev, "Note: dear Emmaus, submitted for review and comment: Daniel 9 vs 4 to 19 Psalm 106 vs 6 Leviticus 26 vs 40 Job 1 vs 5 Nehemiah 1 vs 5 to 7 dasev" dasev, All examples of individuals confessing to God their personal sins and the corporate sins of the family to which they belong (Israel). Am I to understand that when you confessed the sin of Catholics being intellectually dishonest that you were including yourself within that Catholic body? The people in all your citations were clearly including themselves in the body of Israel whose sin they were confessing. Emmaus |
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185 | why must Catholics "doubly" confess? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 57833 | ||
dasev, In that case I would view your statement as prejudice since it prejudges all Catholics. Emmaus |
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186 | why must Catholics "doubly" confess? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 57843 | ||
dasev, Your leap of logic and citations leaves me speechless. I can only hope my condition will not be construed as intellectual dishonesty. Emmaus |
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187 | why must Catholics "doubly" confess? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 57960 | ||
dasev, I was pointing out that you, by stating that "those who ascribe to roman catholic doctrine in its totality really are not intellectualy honest regarding history or the Word" were confessing the sins of others. That is being the accuser. We do know who the accuser of sins is. Christians as I understand scripture are to confess their own sins or as a corporate body the sins of their own group. You chose to "confess" to Estelle the alledged sin (intellectual dishonesty) or sins of a body to which you do not belong. Perhaps you should follow the biblical example of confessing your own sins or those of the body to which you belong if you feel the urge. It is apparent from your comments that you know very little about the Catholic faith as it it understood by Catholics. Your understanding of Catholic doctrine about confession is completely deficient in that you make assumptions that are totally inaccurate (i.e that Catholics can not or do not confess their sins to God other than in a confessional booth to a priest). It is one thing to understand correctly another's position and disagree with it. It is an entirely other thing to misunderstand and misrepresent another's position and then assault that caricature of the true position. Your comments fit into the latter category. I hope that your comments are made in ignorance and not with malice. My I suggest that before you attack the faith of another, you first learn about it from someone who is qualified to teach it accurateley, preferably one who believes that faith. You ask if I am "a member of the r.c. church., and if so what order." This also display basic ignorance about Catholics. Most Catholics are lay people and do not belong to any order or religious congregation. Indeed, even most priests do not belong to any "order". Since you are not a Catholic, may I suggest you avoid that area and stick to what you know. I have no idea what your faith background is and I would not presume to comment on what your Church teaches if I did. You asked before if I was a "card carrying Catholic" and if so you had questions. Being in the questioner's seat is a good place for you to be on the subject of Catholicism, because you have yet to give an accurate answer on that subject. Emmaus |
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188 | Scientific Cosmology vs. bible teaching. | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 60008 | ||
Lionstrong, St. Augustine. still one of the best Christian writers of time. He invented the literary form of autobiography with his "Confessions," and his other masterpiece is The City of God, both still in print and available at Barnes and Noble or Amazon.com among other places. Lots of great spiritual insight and exegesis. Since both books are in the public domain they are also available for reading online, along with all his other numerous writing. Just go to the link below and scroll dowwn to Augustine of Hippo and you can get a preview. http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/ Emmaus |
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189 | complete return to biblical Christianity | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62373 | ||
OK you guys! Enough bickering! Come home to Holy Mother Church and let's be one family again. :-) Emmaus |
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190 | complete return to biblical Christianity | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62403 | ||
John, "I know that the RCC believes that the interpretation of Scripture must be left to the teaching ministerium and private interpretations are not valid if they contradict sanctioned interpretation of the RCC. If I remember correctly the Popes imprimata is his seal of approval regarding questions of orthodoxy. This rule lends stability to the organization and peace of the church, but what does a catholic do who finds hiself in serious disagreement" This is a good and serious question. My personal experience in these matters is that usually over time and by sad experience I find out that I was wrong and the Church was right. I am speaking particularly on moral matters. I have never left the Catholic Church for another because I find her doctrinal teachings more compelling and convincing, when compared to other options available. But the larger question( beyond my own experience) is worthy of discussion. So as to narrow it down for purposes of discussion, can you give me two examples of what you would consider "serious disagreement? Emmaus |
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191 | complete return to biblical Christianity | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62416 | ||
EdB, Those four letter words will get you in trouble every time. Emmaus |
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192 | complete return to biblical Christianity | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62434 | ||
John, "The difference is that on non-essential matters, (other than)such as are codified in the Apostles Creed for instance, my conscience is bound solely to the inspiration of Scripure as the Holy Ghost applies it to my heart. I am bound to no mere man or doctrine or confession or church dogma." Your comment above of course raises the question of authority and how the Holy Spirit works in and through the Church which Christ established and of which He said, "He who hears your hears me." Luke 10:16 This authority and working of the Holy Spirit is shown in Acts 15:22-23,28. Issues still come up from time to time in the Church that demand difinitive and authoritative teaching or interpretation of scripture in order to preserve unity. Catholics do not believe the Holy Spirit has abandoned the Church, despite the sins of her members and hierarchy (e.g. Peter's denial and Judas' betrayal), but still continues to "lead you (the apostles and their successors) to all truth." "Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them to send to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas--Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren, and they sent this letter by them, "The apostles and the brethren who are elders, to the brethren in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia who are from the Gentiles, greetings... For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and o us..." Acts15:22,23,28 Emmaus |
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193 | complete return to biblical Christianity | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62455 | ||
John, The final authority appealed to in Acts 15 was not scripture(i.e the Old Testament) but the authority of the apostles and elders in Council guided by the Holy Spirit. And that is the indisputable biblical pattern and subsequent historical fact of how the Church has dealt with thorny issues since its establishment by Christ. History also shows that appealing to scripture alone leads to even more divison and doctrinal chaos if there is never any final definitve or authoritative interpretation to resolve conflicting and mutually exclusive exegetical interpretations, all appealing to the personal inspiration of the Holy Spirit, that are causing divison. Emmaus |
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194 | complete return to biblical Christianity | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62484 | ||
John, "Rome was right when it claimed that placing the Bible in the hands of the laity would lead to strife and division and it has." Actually, the Catholic laity who could read and could afford a hand made manuscript copy of the scripture have always had it in their hands, as well as in their ears. It is also worth noting that most heresies from the earlies centuries of Christianity have sprung from the clergy, not the laity, and all used scripture to support their positions. After the invention of the printing press Catholic as well as Protestant laity have always had access to scripture. " It is a natural consequence that comes when people are set free to pursue the truth for themselves." As Peter warned from the beginning. "First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, because no prophecy ever came by the impulse of man, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God." 2 Peter 1:20-21 "And count the forbearance of our Lord as salvation. So also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, speaking of this as he does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures.You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, beware lest you be carried away with the error of lawless men and lose your own stability." 2 Peter 3:15-17 "I do not believe we are to follow the pattern of the Levitical priesthood under the NT. Our High Priest is Jesus and the believers one and all are made to be a kingdom of priests, prophets and kings" Actually the Catholic pattern is the priesthood of Melchizedek. Hebrews 5:9; 6:20; Psalm 110:4; Genesis 14:18. And Catholics also believe in the presthood of the people conferred in baptism, when we are baptized into Christ and His priesthood. The ordained ministerial priesthood is for the special service of the whole priestly people and are drawn from among them, not from a particular cast or tribe. Jesus is the High Priest of Catholics too. Emmaus |
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195 | complete return to biblical Christianity | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62519 | ||
John, Historically , inaccurate translations have been burned or otherwise destroyed by Protestant as well as Catholic authorities as they should be. ANd as for control of translations by permission and under supervision of eccesial authority, how about thet "authorized Version" the King James? Emmaus |
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196 | complete return to biblical Christianity | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62520 | ||
John, Actually Tim was quoting me in response to your comment which was: "Rome was right when it claimed that placing the Bible in the hands of the laity would lead to strife and division and it has." about the dangers of the laity getting their hands on the scripture. I was pointing out that almost all heresies spring from the clergy. But I am pleased to see we are all of one accord at least on that point. Emmaus |
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197 | complete return to biblical Christianity | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62540 | ||
Joe, "After the invention of the printing press Catholic as well as Protestant laity have always had access to scripture." Emmaus "But that isn't to say that the RCC liked it! --Joe! Hmmm! How does that jive with the Douay English bible that influenced the the later arriving King James? And of course there were other vernacular language bibles in a numberof languages before Luther's Germain bible, including eight editions in German alone. All Catholic bibles by the way, inclding the Guttenburg, which was in Latin. But then most literate people of that time, especially scholars all read Latin. Emmaus |
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198 | Please read the 8th verse as well. | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62709 | ||
CDBJ. You said, I believe correctly: "It is my firm belief that the one spoken of in II Thess. 2:7 is Michael the angel who is referred to as the protector of God’s children. Daniel 12:1-4 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. [2] And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. [3] And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. [4] But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased." Another passage which confirms this position is Rev 12:7-10 "7: Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8: but they were defeated and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. 9: And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world -- he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. 10: And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God." Jude 9 also speaks of Michael "9: But when the archangel Michael, contending with the devil, disputed about the body of Moses, he did not presume to pronounce a reviling judgment upon him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you." There is a traditional prayer to St. Michael drawn from these passages. St Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle; be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray; and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits, who wander through the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen. Emmaus |
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199 | Please read the 8th verse as well. | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62719 | ||
CDBJ, The term saint or St. is loosely applied to the holy angels that appear in scripture to indicate their holiness. Another verson of the same prayer is rendered "Holy Michael, the Archangel..." Emmaus |
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200 | Is praying to created beings scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62746 | ||
John, "Using your logic one could pray to old Uncle Bob (who we are sure is in heaven because he was such a good man) to intercede on our behalf." That is exactly right John. In fact we might even have asked Uncle Bob to pray for us while he was here among the saints on earth. Why should we stop asking for his prayers when he is even closer to God. Emmaus |
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