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4861 | So ALL who believe in Christ are saved? | Matt 10:33 | EdB | 15844 | ||
Tim Yes the word is the same. By being the same we get more insight to the word. While we must believe in faith, our belief can be no less certain than the demons who believe in God because they have seen him and know for a fact that he exist. |
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4862 | Is it wrong to swear or take an oath? | Matt 5:34 | EdB | 15647 | ||
Hank Unfortunately it is an accurate portrait of much of our society today. With abortion and divorce as prime indicators of how little commitment people are willing to make. Is it any wonder we can’t seem to find justice, lost all belief in the sanctity of life and get can't people committed to the church? We not only have disposable income, but disposal marriages and disposal children as evidenced by the number of abortions and deserted children. With all of this going on our society has come to view lying under oath to be of no real concern. As proven by our nations reaction to Monica affair. |
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4863 | Is it wrong to swear or take an oath? | Matt 5:34 | EdB | 15631 | ||
Hank The whole idea of putting someone under oath was the reasoning that even a liar would be complied to speak the truth because of his fear of God. However as society continues to minimize God to the point of God being nonexistent, your right liars feel no compulsion to tell the truth. In fact most oaths are viewed as nothing more than some meaningless words mindlessly repeated, case in point our wedding vows and the rate of divorces. |
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4864 | Should the Bible be taken literally? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 15385 | ||
Radioman I took no offense at all. Your right in everything you said and I agree with it. However there are two things we must remember. Most books are written to make money and some authors have found that political correctness, popular subjects, and controversial subjects have a tendency to make more money. They therefore write about these subjects and in some cases ill treat the truth. The other point is religious books are written by men trying to explain God, they do this with their preconceived opinions, biases and prejudices. Also anytime the created tries to explain the creator it is found lacking at best and often laughable. I have many favorite experts, men that I trust and rely on to provide sound and Biblically correct answers. However even they are discounted when they attempt to put words in God’s mouth. As is the case so often when men try to reason a passage that seems to be unjust or prejudicial when viewed from a human perspective. I think it is these passages that are most disputed here in the forum. Therefore many times people seem to be in “conflict” with the experts when in fact they are merely offering another opinion. |
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4865 | Should the Bible be taken literally? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 15190 | ||
Yes radioman I think we hit a subject near and dear to your heart. However I wonder if we all can't be accurately accused of doing the same thing from time to time. | ||||||
4866 | Should the Bible be taken literally? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 15188 | ||
If that is really how you did it I would love to know where you stand on some issues. However I fear on many thing you may have been biased and not even realized it. Nonetheless I would like to explore this more, it would probably be better by e-mail. | ||||||
4867 | Should the Bible be taken literally? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 15187 | ||
Amen and preach it brother! | ||||||
4868 | Should the Bible be taken literally? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 15186 | ||
Radioman your obviously very enthusiastic over this subject, which is good. However I think most of the debate over the “experts” focused more on conflicting experts. Some people seem to think since you author a book you’re an “expert”, however I think we have all read some pure trash at one time or another written by an “expert”. | ||||||
4869 | Should the Bible be taken literally? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 15185 | ||
In many threads in this forum there has been much debate over a word. With many people claiming the author or writer of the a particular word didn't mean it that way. | ||||||
4870 | Should the Bible be taken literally? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 15170 | ||
There is a person that visits this forum from time to time that has been taught by "the find a verse that works for you and put it together with other such verses and make a doctrine that you like" method. That person is hard to convince they are wrong since they have a verse to stand on, never mind that it means or is talking about a completely different subject. I truely feel sorry for the people that have had a part in leading her astray. Instead of the joyous day in heaven they have invented it will be a day of realization of their error. |
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4871 | Should the Bible be taken literally? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 15168 | ||
For the most part she is very sound. Her idea in inductive Bible study is to let the word of God speak for itself. Only after you have concluded what the passage says are you to consult a commentary or outside source. Then only to insure you haven't arrived in left field. | ||||||
4872 | Should the Bible be taken literally? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 15167 | ||
Lionstrong thank you, I guess I should say interpretation rather than literalness but that is not really the case either maybe a better word would be application. Are we to apply God's word as written or should we consider different ways, perhaps even politically correct ways to apply it. the consensus within much of the church is go PC to insure growth. |
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4873 | Should the Bible be taken literally? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 15151 | ||
Fortunately for me the author of the text we are using basically has the same thoughts I do. This class is a lift of Kay Arthur's teaching and of course she advocates inducive reasoning to determine what the text is stating. | ||||||
4874 | Should the Bible be taken literally? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 15148 | ||
Tim I'm not preaching here I'm bouncing things off you and the others first to satisfy myself and also because of a class I'm involved with. In your examples I understand perfectly what your saying and I understand the need for study and outside references in many case. I'm seeing terrible liberties taken with the Bible as of late and more I see the more I'm convinced that God's hand was more involved in writing the Bible than most imagine. I think it may have even came down to the actual word the author used in many cases. |
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4875 | Should the Bible be taken literally? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 15143 | ||
Hank, I'm not putting you down in any way nor am I dismissing what you said. But is there a vast difference between headgear women wear and homosexuality? God often went out of His way to specify minute details, and yes your right we can and do major in minors. However I see the church today lacking, I often wonder why, then it seems the Holy Spirit reminds me of some of these seemingly minor ordinances that are explained away and not followed. | ||||||
4876 | May I share a simple story to help? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 15140 | ||
Thanks again for sharing it. Like I said I wish everyone in this forum would read it. I think if most were honest with themselves they would find it very convicting. I know I did. Ah, more things for my prayer list. | ||||||
4877 | Should the Bible be taken literally? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 15137 | ||
Tim Let's get philosophical for a moment. Notice I addressed this to Tim before anyone complains about speculation or philosophy on the forum. Let’s say Paul wrote a letter we will call “letter to drivers” and said within it, “drive on the left side of the street.” Let’s also say at the time Paul wrote this letter many have ‘speculated’ or maybe even ‘proven’ that there was a problem with drivers driving on either side of the side of the road. There is further ‘speculation’ that the only reason Paul wrote, drive on the left side of the street, was an attempt to set things in order, and to keep everyone on one side of the road. However in Paul’s letter he did not say pick one side of the street and make it a law to drive on that side. He point blankly stated drive on the left side of the street. The question that comes to my mind is if Paul is writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit should it not be assumed the God didn’t allow us the choice but stated drive on left side of the street for His own reason. And by explaining away what Paul wrote, we miss what God wanted. We justify ourselves by saying that we don’t have the problem, since everyone here drives of the right side and all Paul was doing was trying to insure continuity not establishing doctrine. |
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4878 | Should the Bible be taken literally? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 15099 | ||
Steve You say yes to my questions, now can you think of any places this might not apply. I understand clearly there are Books and chapters and verses of the Bible that are metaphor, symbolic, and rhetorical and were not meant to be taken literally. My question is there any place where the writer has offered what appears to be a universal directive while addressing a particular situation that we need to consider the situation before accepting the directive? |
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4879 | Should the Bible be taken literally? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 15095 | ||
Hank I realize there are Books, chapters and verses within the Bible that are metaphor or symbolic and should not be taken literally. However I think you realize too that there are passages that are explained away as not pertaining to us today. These are primarily Paul’s letters. While I understand Paul was dealing with problems within the church the letter was addressed to, shouldn’t the issues he brought up still pertain today? I have heard a lot of preachers justify many things in conflict with Paul’s teaching and when asked, they explain it as Paul was correcting problems that pertains to that church or culture. Since we live in a different place time we need to apply today’s social and politically correctness to the issues and that may in fact go against Paul’s teachings. I think we have all noticed the liberties that are taken with the scriptures. Men rip verses out of context and by adding other verse can and do justify/teach just about anything they want. While this is done many times to promote heresy it is also done to promote true doctrine. In my example of the radio preacher used it to form a foundation of a great message and the end could be said to have justified the means. However is this the way to handle scripture or not? |
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4880 | Should the Bible be taken literally? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 15092 | ||
Lionstrong a silly question? Excuse me! I forget there are so many with the wisdom of Solomon that when one of us mere mortals happen to ask a question it appears to silly. | ||||||
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