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381 | Eph 4:8("given") vs Ps 68:18("received)? | Eph 4:8 | Aixen7z4 | 131494 | ||
He received gifts from the conquered? And he gave those to the church? He recovered men from the powers that held them, and gave them to the church? Possibly so. It is somewhat distressing to see the different ways the one passage (Psalm 68:18) is rendered in different translations. We may get some help, I think, by looking at what other scriptures say on the same subject. Who were the conquered? Would they be the same ones we read of in Colossians 2:15, that “having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it”? Are they not the evil powers, aligned with the devil, that had us in bondage (Hebrews 2:14,15)? What gifts would he have received from them? Are they the same gifts he gave to us (Ephesians 4:11): apostles and prophets and evangelists and pastors and teachers? Jesus knew that he should depart out of this world unto the Father (John 13:1) and in John 14:3,12 he said that he would. In John 14:16 he said he would pray to the Father, and he (the Father) would send another Comforter. In John 14:26 he said that the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, was the one the Father would send in his name. In John 15:26 he said that the Comforter would come, as he would be sending him from the Father, “even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father”. In Acts 2:33, being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he shed forth that which they were seeing and hearing. In Acts 2:38 Peter told them that all believers would receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. In 1 Corinthians 12, Paul says that the Spirit is not only himself a gift, but he brings gifts with him. “For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; to another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit. 1 Corinthians 12:11 “All these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will”. It is evident that the same Spirit who gives gifts to the men also gives the gifted men to the church. Thus, “he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ” (Ephesians 4:11,12). So, it seems that Jesus ascends on high, receives the Holy Spirit from the Father and sends him into the world. The Holy Spirit brings gifts to individual believers and gives those gifted individuals to the church for the purposes stated. |
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382 | A fresh mental and spiritual attitude? | Eph 4:23 | Aixen7z4 | 150136 | ||
It would be nice to say it is your brethren who are waiting to hear some scripture to support the idea of a holy spirit. That would be to say that the burden of proof rests with the proponent of the idea. But we have understood all along that being filled with the Holy Spirit means being filled with “the Spirit of God” (as in 1 Corinthians 12). We understand from a passage like that, that he is otherwise called the Holy Ghost (v. 3). We have understood that the same Spirit (v. 4) is Lord (v. 5). Moreover, we have understood that the Holy Spirit is working in us (v. 6). We have understood that he gives gifts to individuals in the church (vv. 7 and 11). He gives these gifted men to the church (Ephesians 4) so that all can profit from their ministry, as we read again in 1 Corinthians 12:7. It is apparent that the brethren are not ready to receive any information suggesting that the Holy Spirit is other than a person, one of the three in the Godhead. They do not believe that any such information exists in scripture. The Holy Spirit gives specific gifts, and he produces certain fruit (Galatians 6). We understand that he works in us to produce the desire (Philippians 2), and the ability (Zechariah 4) and the actual operations (1 Corinthians 12) and fruit (John 15). But we do not read anywhere that he gives anything called “holy spirit”. Above, this writer had to be careful to not say, “It is he …” because someone would think he was referring to the Holy Spirit as an “It”. He had to make sure he did not say “…anything other than a person …” so that no one would think he was referring to the Holy Spirit as a “thing”. We are very sensitive to the fact the Holy Spirit is a person. The conventions of the English language would allow us to say those things, but we are careful not to give a wrong impression. We understand that God can and does give a spirit, for example, a spirit of wisdom (Exodus 28). He may give, through the Holy Spirit, a fullness “in wisdom, in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship (Exodus 35). He may give a spirit of a spirit of judgment (Isaiah 28); even a spirit of deep sleep (Isaiah 29). But none of these things is referred to as a “holy spirit”. Peter tells us (Chapter 3) that we should have a meek and quiet spirit. But that is not referred to as a “holy spirit”. Jesus, being always full of the Holy Spirit (John 3) always had all of the gifts. Isaiah said of him (chapter 11), that there would come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and as a branch out of his roots. The Spirit of Jehovah would rest on Him; and he would have “the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and power, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of Jehovah”. But even when those were put together, they are not said to constitute a “holy spirit”. It never was said in scripture that that Jesus had a holy spirit. Now, there is a spirit in man, “the candle of the LORD” (Proverbs 20:27) and it is through that spirit that a man knows what is in his mind. And the Spirit of God knows what is in God’s mind. He reveals God’s mind to us (1 Corinthians 1). And he witnesses with our spirits, telling us, for example, that we are the children of God (Romans 8). He is the one who tells us what the word of God means. It is interesting that this thread begins to suggest we can have a kind of mind, as in Ephesians 2:23, an attitude that might, apparently, take the place of the active ministry of the Holy Spirit in filling us. There is such an attitude: “Let this mind be in you” (Philippians 2). And yet, that attitude, of humility, only allows us to yield to the Holy Spirit, so he can fill us and work in us. It is apparent that it is the Holy Spirit who provides that attitude (v.13). But we can resist him (Acts 7:51). But we are encouraged to allow him to fill us. And he can do that, because he is God, and like the Father (1 Corinthians 15:58) and like the Son (Ephesians 1:23) he can fill all in all. It is not only a mental and spiritual attitude we need, though those may be prerequisites. We need the Holy Spirit himself to fill us. As for a holy spirit, we have never heard of a holy spirit. We know that angels are spirits (Hebrews 4) and they may be holy (Matthew 25, Revelation 14). But that is another subject. We have no information about being filled with something called holy spirit. Having searched the scripture in vain for it, we should be on guard, and fortify the brethren so they can resist the idea. We should discourage anyone from taking on a burden of proof, as it were, in order to try to import that doctrine into the faith. |
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383 | A fresh mental and spiritual attitude? | Eph 4:23 | Aixen7z4 | 150286 | ||
Please try to understand. In my last paragraph, above, I am saying that I have never seen the term holy spirit. It is not used even in a case where it might be used. Angels are spirits, and they are holy, and yet they are never called holy spirits. A single angel is not called a holy spirit. I have noted before that God gives a spirit of wisdom, a spirit of understanding, etc. But these are never called holy. The term is never used. In Acts 19 the believers were responding to a question, whether they had received the Holy Spirit when they believed. They replied that they had never heard that there was such a person as the Holy Spirit. There is no missing the point that Paul was talking about God the Holy Spirit. And there is no reason to think that they conceived of some holy influence before they found out the truth. Paul was referring to the Holy Spirit. He is the one Jesus had promised to send. He is the one Jesus had spoken of in John 7, when he invited the thirsty to come to him. John tells us he was referring to of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive, although the Holy Ghost had not yet been given. But Paul was himself filled with the Holy Ghost, in Acts chapter 9 and afterwards. The Holy Spirit is a person. But I cannot imagine what holy spirit would be. Even my spellchecker is asking me to change the words, as it knows of no such formulation. I heard the term “Jesus juice” recently, and I wondered whether they were talking about such a thing. I know that the Jehovah’s Witnesses think of an influence from the father and the Son that they call holy spirit, but I understand that you are not of that persuasion. And yet it seems to be the same idea that you are trying to get accepted on the forum. I really think you should give up on the idea. I have tried to show, through an exhaustive search of the scriptures, that the term is never used except in reference to God the Holy Spirit. Again, not even angels, who are spirits, and who are holy, are described by the use of that term. The disciples in Acts 19 had not heard of the Holy Spirit, but of course he existed as eternal God. They soon knew him because Paul laid hands on them and the Holy Spirit came to them, not only on them but into them, as I understand from the promise Jesus made. But I do not believe we will become acquainted with holy spirit because the scriptures know of no such thing. We will not change that by employing rules of capitalization, so I’d suggest, in love, that we forget it. |
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384 | Christians ambivalent about death? | Phil 1:23 | Aixen7z4 | 97786 | ||
Comments: Heaven is a wonderful place. The main thing about it is, that tJesus is there. And we want to be with him! He also longs to have us there (John 17:24). It is the ultimate destination where every Christian will be whether through death or the Rapture. Some "Christians will fight tooth and nail to the very last breath to resist death"? Christians usually look forward to being in heaven and they are not afraid of death. They say, "O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?" They say, "The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ". They believe that it is better to die, because it means they will be absent from the body and present with the Lord. Sometimes they can't quite make up their minds about leaving, though, because they believe they are needed here, to lead others to the Savior, and to answer questions like this. |
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385 | Christians ambivalent about death? | Phil 1:23 | Aixen7z4 | 105556 | ||
I've not had time to read the post carefully, but I think you are saying that death is not a sad thing. To that I must agree. One of the most dramatic changes to take place at my conversion was my attitude toward death. Before, I had a morbid and constant fear of death. After I was saved I found that death had lost its sting. I live for the Lord every day, and every day I long to see Him. I have had many close brushes with death, and it has never frightened me. Someone must have already said it, but I say, "O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ“. |
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386 | Christians ambivalent about death? | Phil 1:23 | Aixen7z4 | 105558 | ||
I feel exactly the same way. | ||||||
387 | Christians ambivalent about death? | Phil 1:23 | Aixen7z4 | 105561 | ||
One of my best friends has come out the JW camp to repentance and faith in Christ. I suspect that Aniset may be uncomfortable with those teachings as well, and may be presenting them here for patient examination. I do not believe he intends to move a rock as solid as you are, Hank. I hope we can talk with this person. Comparing Scripture with Scripture brings out the truth even in that version of the Bible. | ||||||
388 | Christianity and Culture - Competition | Phil 1:27 | Aixen7z4 | 104786 | ||
Competition is a key ingredient in many cultures. Some would say that it is a necessary fuel for progress. But what saith the scripture? What is the scriptural view of competition? We are called to fight a good fight (1 Timothy 6:12, etc.) but the fighting is not against each other. When we fight against our enemies (Ephesians 6:12), the idea is not to win but to stand (Ephesians 6:13). The idea to pull down strongholds, so that they do not stand (2 Corinthians 10:4). It is not to prove oneself better than someone else, but in this Christian warfare, it is to stand together against the foe. We are called to run a race (Hebrews 12:1, etc.) but it is not a race against each other. I submit that it is a relay race, with those who have gone before us having handed on the baton (Hebrews 11:35), and we being ready to do the same (2 Timothy 2:2). In the world, only one receives the prize (1 Corinthians 9:24). But we will all receive our prize together (Hebrews 11:36). It seems to me the Lord has called us together, not for competition but for cooperation. Bear one another’s burdens. Comfort one another. Encourage one another. Help one another. Cooperate with one another the way the parts of your body do, for we are the body of Christ. |
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389 | What is God's Son's name? | Phil 2:9 | Aixen7z4 | 107344 | ||
I saw them. How wonderful to have these names!I'd like to have permission to display them at http://www.hishows.bizland.com/jesusnames.html Questions: Is this list exhaustive? How many are on it, if you know? Does anyone have them in another order? Is one of these names to be above the others? |
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390 | What is God's Son's name? | Phil 2:9 | Aixen7z4 | 107346 | ||
I have noted this about the name: “Lord Jesus Christ” is used in the King James Bible some 82 times “The Lord Jesus Christ” - 27 times “Our Lord Jesus Christ” - 54 times Can anyone tell what other word goes with “Lord Jesus Christ”? It is “One”. “One Lord Jesus Christ” (1 Corinthians 8:6). Proves your point, does it not? He is the only one and, thank God, he is ours. |
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391 | What is God's Son's name? | Phil 2:9 | Aixen7z4 | 107361 | ||
He is ours! Amen! Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with that spiritual blessing. |
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392 | What is God's Son's name? | Phil 2:9 | Aixen7z4 | 108183 | ||
I read that article and found the following: "Catholicism also sometimes gives Mary the same exact titles which belong to Jesus alone—Life, Hope, the Way, Morningstar, etc. In fact, Catholicism has given their Mary more names and titles than the Bible has for the Lord Jesus". I found it hard to believe. |
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393 | What's in a name? | Phil 2:9 | Aixen7z4 | 132693 | ||
Seems that the Lord does not want to be separated from his name. As often as we are asked to praise the Lord, we are asked to praise his name. We are to bless the Lord and we are to bless his holy name. There is this focus on his name: (Psalm 148:5) Let them praise the name of the LORD: for he commanded, and they were created. Psalm 148:13 Let them praise the name of the LORD: for his name alone is excellent; his glory is above the earth and heaven. Joel 2:26 Ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed. His name and his person seem to be linked inextricably: Psalm 69:30 I will praise the name of God with a song, and will magnify him with thanksgiving. Psalm 113:1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise, O ye servants of the LORD, praise the name of the LORD. Psalm 103:1 Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name. Psalm 145:21 My mouth shall speak the praise of the LORD: and let all flesh bless his holy name for ever and ever. We are to trust in the Lord (Proverbs 3:5). And we are to trust in his name (Matthew 12:31). We are to love the Lord (Deuteronomy 6:5; Psalm 31:23) and we are to love his name (Psalm 5:11; 69:36; 119:132; Isaiah 56:6). O course any name, like a label, represents and stands for something. But it seems that God’s name, because it stands for God, means something other names do not mean, and we are to relate to it in a special way. We are to pray in his name (John 14:13,14;15:16;16:23,24,26). Matter of fact we are asked to do everything in his name (Colossians 3:17). Praise the LORD. Praise, O you servants of the LORD, praise the name of the LORD. And comment, please. |
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394 | What's in a name? | Phil 2:9 | Aixen7z4 | 132756 | ||
Question withdrawn. Unless otherwise notified I will assume there is no scripture stating these things. | ||||||
395 | What's in a name? | Phil 2:9 | Aixen7z4 | 132785 | ||
I confess to you that this is a trail that I have not gone down before. I agree with the idea that we should be careful and I trust that the scholars who inhabit this space will keep us in check. I hope they can do so without accusations if and when we get off track. It has been suggested before that we should worship the Lord and not worship his name. From what we have seen so far it seems that we can and should honor, glorify, praise his name. It is as though his name is his identity. It is not like any other item that one may wear awhile and then discard. God will be identified by his name forever. To praise the Lord’s name is the same things as praising him. Or is it? In Psalm 29:2 “Give unto the LORD the glory due unto his name” is the same as “worship the LORD in the beauty of holiness”. Or is it? In Psalm 66:4 “All the earth … shall sing unto you” is the same as “they shall sing to your name”. Or is it? Psalm 86:9 “All nations whom he has hast made shall come and worship before you” is equivalent to “They shall glorify your name”. Or is it? Psalm 135:1 “Praise ye the LORD. Praise ye the name of the LORD; praise him, O ye servants of the LORD”. The first and last clauses seem to be the same. I assume the one in the middle is saying the same thing. Or is it? It is my sense at this point that the phrases may not be exactly equivalent, but that the name of the Lord is as close as we get to the person of God this side of heaven. God is a spirit and we do not see him. We know him by his name. His name, meanwhile is revealed to us in his word. It stands for his attributes, the ones he has revealed to us. And is it not interesting in Revelation 19 that his name is called the Word of God (v. 13). We relate to him in terms of what he has said. It occurs to me that it is the way we relate to each other as well. We on this forum know each other by our words, and it is our words that communicate what we are. I say this advisedly. There may be some who know each other in other ways. But in some sense it is also true that we know no man after the flesh (2 Corinthians 5:16). In fact, those who had known Christ after the flesh did not focus on that part: his physical being or anything emanating from that. They do not talk at all about what he looked like or sounded like, and though some strain to say that he had a sense of humor or such, the writers of Scripture were not focused on those types of things. They were focused on what he had said and what he stood for, the word of God, and it is captured and summarized in his name. I agree also with the warning we had that we should not try to analyze God. His nature is beyond us, for who ca understand omniscience or omnipotence or infinity or eternity. Those characteristics cause us to fall down and worship him. But what else can we do before him who was, and is, and is to come, the Almighty (Revelation 1:8;4:8)? We cannot see all that he can do but we can worship him because of that name and because of the ability he has given us to understand some of what it means. But it is the name of God as much as his person that is help out to us for our response, be it worship or praise or thanks. When the Lord descended to the mount and stood with Moses there, it is the name of the Lord that he proclaimed. Moses was not allowed to see his person. But the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, “The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth …”, and Moses made haste and bowed himself and worshipped. It seems to me there is some danger in making this post. But these are the thoughts that occurred to me as I meditated on the word pertaining to the name of the Lord. I look forward to the thoughts of my fellow travelers here. I do not expect that it will be helpful to hear disparaging words, but I would like to hear the thoughts that others may have as they meditate on the passages cited, and specifically on the name of the Lord. |
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396 | What's in a name? | Phil 2:9 | Aixen7z4 | 132831 | ||
I am sorry. I prefer not to deal with that attitude. Let's let it be. | ||||||
397 | All of that? | Phil 2:9 | Aixen7z4 | 132833 | ||
I've thought about this for ten minutes and I still do not know how to answer your question, so please excuse me. I have no answer. | ||||||
398 | What's in a name? | Phil 2:9 | Aixen7z4 | 132950 | ||
Seems the Lord does not want us to discuss this topic at this time. Perhaps we can return to it at a later time. Whatever we do, we must honor that name. We could do so by being thoughtful about the topic, respectful, with awe, of him for whom it stands, and polite to each other. Perhaps another time. I would respectfully request that this note be allowed to pass and attach to the topic without comment at this time. | ||||||
399 | Help thinking | Phil 4:8 | Aixen7z4 | 95712 | ||
I take it that you want to do more than read about it. You want to accomplish it. If so, I'd like to recommend the entire word of God. Read it for pleasure. Read it for knowledge, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. Read it to understand yourself better and to know the Lord better and to know his will. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Reading the word of God will help you to do that. |
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400 | What are some examples? | Phil 4:8 | Aixen7z4 | 95967 | ||
And yet, my heart is seeking a simple answer, a practical solution. "Whatsoever things are lovely": how do we judge whether a thing is lovely? My wife says a flower is lovely: the shape, the color, the odor it gives. If I ask her why she says they are lovely, she says anyone can see that. But I need scripture as a measuring stick. I think of the fact that God made it and said that it was very good (Gen 1:31). That means it is pure, ... it is of good report. We can sing a song of praise to it. So then, we can think of roses. "If there be any virtue" suggests that we can gain something, get some strength, from thinking of them. Is that what David was doing in Psalm 139, looking at his body so fearfully and wonderfully made? He had precious thoughts, of the thing made, and of the Creator, as he thought on those things. There may be nonmaterial things as well. Perhaps love is lovely: the love of a parent for a child, the lasting faithful love of a man for his wife. "Old man and woman", a song says, "a beautiful sight, still so in love, it makes the whole world seem bright". We can notice these things and think on these things. The love of God for us is a beautiful thing. It's greater far than tongue or pen can ever tell. It goes beyond the highest star, and reaches to the lowest hell. It is rich, and pure, and measureless, and strong. We can think on these things. Perhaps you can find something good in what I have said here, and think on these things. Perhaps you can suggest other things. |
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