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| 1 | What is wrong? | 2 Cor 12:13 | 1-2steve | 148419 | ||
| mommapbs, Hello! I think that it may be the fact that Paul wasn't recieving money for preaching. Whereas the false apostles (11: 13-16) would always take money from the churches, which apparently is not characteristic of a true apostle. So I would be inclined to lean towards the fact that Paul was being sarcastic in that statement.? But I also would think that Paul was being specific here. He didn't say minister, only apostle. Secondly, the only way I see this translating into the church today, goes back to 11:12. Not giving someone something to boast about. Just guessing at this point!:) In Christ, steve |
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| 2 | What is wrong? | 2 Cor 12:13 | kalos | 148439 | ||
| 1-2steve: Rather than calling it sarcasm, I think the accurate literary term would be irony, which is different from sarcasm. irony '1 : a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning -- called also Socratic irony 2 a : the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning' (www.m-w.com) Grace to you, Kalos |
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| 3 | What is wrong? | 2 Cor 12:13 | Mommapbs | 148440 | ||
| Kalos, so is Paul saying that by his not asking the church for support, he was wrong? What is he driving at here? mommapbs |
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| 4 | What is wrong? | 2 Cor 12:13 | kalos | 148471 | ||
| Mommapbs: Apparently I'm doing a poor job of explaining this. :-) So I'll give someone else a chance at it. NASB 2 Corinthians 12:13 For in what respect were you treated as inferior to the rest of the churches, except that I myself did not become a burden to you? Forgive me this wrong! 'Paul had not slighted the Corinthians except by refusing to be a burden. With a touch of irony, he begged their forgiveness for that "wrong."' (MacArthur Study Bible) "I myself did not become a burden to you." 'Paul's refusal to accept any payment when preaching the gospel to the Corinthians had been slanderously twisted by his adversaries. They, who had grasped at all they could get, were saying that it was he who had sinned against the Corinthians. "Forgive me this wrong." Irony -- resuming the line of discussion in 11:7-12.' (NASB Study Bible) "I myself was not burdensome to you:" 'The only fault of his ministry was that he showed them preferential treatment. To such ingratitude Paul's irony deals a mortal blow.' (The King James Study Bible, Nelson, 1988) Grace to you, Kalos |
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| 5 | What is wrong? | 2 Cor 12:13 | Mommapbs | 148479 | ||
| Kalos - I guess the "irony" was lost on me. Thanks for the explanation. mommapbs |
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| 6 | What is wrong? | 2 Cor 12:13 | kalos | 148482 | ||
| Mommapbs: No problem. Grace to you, Kalos |
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