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181 | cut off | Rom 11:22 | zach† | 33235 | ||
What does the term "cut of" refer to in Rom. 11:21-22? Is this comparable to to John 15:2? And does this mean we can lose our salvation? | ||||||
182 | in Him | Rom 11:22 | zach† | 33279 | ||
Curt thank you for taking time to answer this as i am yet trying to collect my thoughts on this. However the one thing I notice in John 15:2 is that there are 2 types of branches, but I see that even the branch that does not bear fruit is said to be "in Me" meaning in Christ. And to be in Christ is to be his. Also see 2 Cor. 5:17 where it states: 'if any man be IN CHRIST he is a new creature." I think the "in Him" of John 15:2 is never looked at or taken into account. Do you have any other thoughts concerning this touchy topic? zach |
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183 | cut off | Rom 11:22 | zach† | 33934 | ||
Robert; you stated: "To suggest that we can lose our salvation goes against the promise of the Lord Jesus "That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life" John 3:16 " To believe is a continual act, and is active, not passive. Also the word believe is a verb, which denotes continual maintenance. In Christ zach |
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184 | cut off | Rom 11:22 | zach† | 33936 | ||
Curt: Carefully Re-read John 15:2 and you will see that it says "He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit" But nevertheless even though they were "cut off," they were still said to be "in him" That part of this text is over-looked by most. In Christ zach |
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185 | cut off | Rom 11:22 | zach† | 34296 | ||
Curt; I never said they "are still in him" The text says that there are some that are "cut off" who were a one time "in him" No branch can be cut off that has not been previously attached. Look at John 15:2 again John 15:2 EVERY BRANCH IN ME THAT BEARETH NOT FRUIT HE TAKETH AWAY: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. In Christ zach† |
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186 | cut off | Rom 11:22 | zach† | 34300 | ||
Robert; Thank you for you response. I agree with your statements and just want to add to what you stated so well, that you may be able to understand my thoughts on this. You stated; "he saves us daily as we walk with Him" I say amen Jerry Bridges in his wonderful book made the following comment. "God has made it posible for us to walk in holiness. But He has given us the responsibility of doing the walking." Scripture says: Gal. 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, LET US ALSO WALK IN THE SPIRIT. Concerning the three-fold aspect of salvation which you touched upon I also agree, just my wording is a bit different as you will see as I now post it. Salvation is in 3 tenses. Justification (We have been saved - past tense) from the penalty of sin. Sanctification (We are being saved - present tense) from the power of sin. (and to get into another discussion of positional and on-going sanctification is a whole other topic that I won't go into detail about at this time Glorification (We yet shall be saved - future tense) from the presence of sin. In Christ zach† |
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187 | cut off | Rom 11:22 | zach† | 34320 | ||
Cur†; to answer your question: "The question is... does the warning apply to only people groups, or also to individual salvation." The following scripture initially comes to mind. Gal. 5:9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. So from that text, I think is possible to say that leaven (which usually refers to sin) can begin in an individual and then spread corperately, through the body. But more importantly in John 15:2 which reads: John 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. branch in this verse is treated as being singular. The termnology used for branch in this verse is "it' not they or them, etc. One last thought I have concerns some text in Rev. concerning the 7 churches of Asia. Rev. 3:4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. In the church of Sardis their were only a FEW which had not been defiled and had soiled their garments. Few can mean a remnant I believe. So although not all in Sardis were defiled, the majority were. In Christ zach† |
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188 | cut off | Rom 11:22 | zach† | 34334 | ||
Cur†; Matthew 10 is Jesus instructions to his disciples to prepare them. Mt 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Mt 10:17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. Jesus was telling his disciples about persecution, not whether they would or would not lose salvation. This text does not deal with whether or not salvation can be lost. 28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the (physical body, not spiritual) body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. 29 Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the will of your Father. This text In the next text you posted from John; John 10 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. Didn't Jesus say that no man can pluck us out of His hand? Yes He did. And in the preceding verse Jesus indentified those who are held securely in His hand. "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they FOLLOW me;The ones who cannot be plucked out of Christ's hand are the sheep who hear His voice and follow Him. They are obedient to His teaching. if ye turn away, and forsake my ... commandments, ... Then will I pluck them up ... and ... cast (them) out of my sight (2 Chr. 7:19-20) The protection is from enemies without who seek to carry off the sheep, but not from unfaithfulness of the sheep who might choose not to follow any longer. This safety is only from forces outside the believer and God Himself. A backslider removes himself from the promises of safety and security. He is not removed against his own will. John 10:29 is a great promise that no man can pluck believers out of their Father's hand. That is what it teaches. It does not teach that you cannot, as a believer, walk out of His hands. It simply teaches that man cannot take you out of God's hands, but it does not talk about your own ability to choose to leave His hands. In Christ zach† |
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189 | 1 Corinthian 4:9 | 1 Corinthians | zach† | 34382 | ||
faithful; I think it means the world sees us as foolish and as something to be laughed at, and mocked and made fun of. 1Cor. 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; In Christ zach† |
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190 | what is the greek word for "taketh away" | 1 Cor 11:32 | zach† | 34777 | ||
dear sharon; I will let you wade through this: Different Bible Versions rendering of John 15:2 and 15:6 King James Version - taken away in verse 2 and cast forth in verse 6 Amplifed Version - cuts away in verse 2 and thrown out in verse 6 New American Standard Version - takes away in verse 2, and thrown away in verse 6 NIV Version - cuts off in verse 2, and thrown away in verse 6 Contemporary English Version - cuts away in verse 2 and thrown away in verse 6 New King James Version - takes away in verse 2 and cast out in verse 6 The Living Bible Translation - lops off verse 2 and thrown away in verse 6 Revised Standard Version - takes away in verse 2 and cast forth in verse 6 Todays English Version – breaks off in verse 2 and thrown out in verse 6 Gideons International Bible Version - cuts off in verse 2 and thrown away in verse 6 Weymouth Translation – takes away verse 2 and thrown away verse 6 Youngs Literal Translation – take it away verse 2 and cast forth verse 6 Darby – takes it away verse 2 and cast out verse 6 World English Bible – takes away verse 2 and thrown out verse 6 Websters Bible – taketh away verse 2 and cast forth verse 6 Basic English Bible – takes away verse 2 and becomes dead verse 6 J.B.Phillips New Testament Version - removes in verse 2 and broken off in verse 6 The Jerusalem Bible Version - cuts away in verse 2 and thrown away in verse 6 The Greek word for take in John 15:2 is "airo", which means "to lift, (see Gen. 40:19 N.I.V.) carry, take up or away. It is also use in John 1:29 of Christ as "the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world," and the same use of the word can be found in 1 Cor. 5:2 which reads: "And ye are puffed up, and have not rather morned, that he that has done this deed might be taken away from among you." (Vine's Complete Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words) In John 15:2 the word away is used in connection with various verbs such as "take away" and is translated "away with" implying a forcible removal for the purpose of putting to death. (Vine's Complete Expository Dictionary Of Old And New Testament Words) In Christ zach† |
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191 | Thanks, but what about....? | Eph 2:5 | zach† | 35628 | ||
Please excuse me for butting in here Concerning the question: is salvation a process or one time event, the answer is yes. The new birth is a one time past tense event for each born-again believer. Salvation is a broad term which I like to say is like an umbrella. Underneath the umbrella of salvation is, justification, sanctification, and glorification, which understood in their proper forms indicate that salvation is also a process or ongoing work in each and every believer. We are growing in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior. I would like to add a few points to this "ship and shore" illustration also. First: In Scripture we read of two who made shipwreck of their faith. 1 Tim. 1:19 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck: 20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme. Their ship of faith crashed against the rocks and was busted up and sunk. Maybe their faith was too shallow. I use that pun because the rocks were in shallow and troubled waters Secondly if you like illustrations on this, I will provide this one: Bill Jones is fishing several miles out in the ocean. His boat capsizes and sinks to the bottom. He is unable to swim to safety. Just then another fishing boat comes along, but it is so heavily loaded that it is impossible to take on another passenger. Because they want to rescue the doomed man, however the crew throws him a rope. "Here take this rope," they say. "We will tow you to shore." As he takes the rope, Bill Jones says, "Thank God, I am saved!" And he is saved, as long as he holds on to the rope. Salvation is his, but he has to play a part in it. If he should at any time release his grasp on the rope and refuse to take it again, he would be lost. So it is with a person who has been rescued from sin. He remains saved as long as he holds on to the hand of Christ. If he should decide to release that hand, he would be lost. Actually one can properly speak of salvation in three tenses - past, present, and future. He can say, "I have been saved" when he takes the rope, "I am being saved" as he is being towed to shore; and "I shall be saved" when he plants his feet firmly on shore. Does the fact that the man must cling to the rope to be saved, mean that we can earn our salvation by our works? Absolutely not. Remember he was being towed by a power other than his own. He was merely co-operating with that power. He was holding onto the rope. He had to do that in order to be pulled to safety. Grace and peace zach† |
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192 | Thanks, but what about....? | Eph 2:5 | zach† | 35666 | ||
Bgg you said: "no man can pluck us from His or His Father's hand but we can walk or jump out?" and to that we can agree then Grace and peace zach† |
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193 | Thanks, but what about....? | Eph 2:5 | zach† | 35760 | ||
Dear charis; Greetings in the name of Jesus! "I take it that you have not served in an inner city mission for the homeless." Well I have and still do volunteer work inside our local food kitchen, and clothing closet. I don't know if that counts. "Even a few weeks of serving meals and preaching to the derelicts and addicts and 'professional welfare recipients" I would say that basically describes the people I come in contact with at the food kitchen. It appears to me that you work in evangelism and ministering to the lost, and thats excellent. PTL However most things I discuss are not evangelistic in nature. So I think part of the problem we have in our discussions is you try to bring all discussions into an evangelical train of thinking. And if your God given giftedness is in evangelism, again I say PTL. The issues I speak on are more doctrinal, rather than evangelical in nature. It is highly unlikely that I would discuss the same things I have mentioned in most my my replys with babes in Christ, or those with seeker sensitive hearts. My reply's were intended and geared more for those who have reached some level of maturity in their walk with Christ Jesus. In scripture we read of new born babes who need milk and are not ready for meat. And even for those who are serving as evangelists, the scriptural command to them is clear: Mt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. So please don't try to fit all my thoughts into an evangelical mold. They were not intended to be evangelical in nature. I merely present my thoughts, and open them up for discussion. For agreement or disagreement. Finally Cultures may change, but Jesus never changes. (Christ Jesus the same yesterday, today and forever Heb. 13:8) Jesus can transcend cultures Grace peace and love zach† |
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194 | how do you grieve the holyspirit | Eph 4:30 | zach† | 37526 | ||
Greetings ssv.1 Eph 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Believers can grieve the Holy Spirit when they sin, and live life-styles that go against the grain of the Christian life you profess. If an individual continues to live a life-style which grieves the Holy Spirit, it is possible to become guilty of "Quenching the Holy Spirit" 1 Thess. 5:19 In order to not grieve the Holy Spirit, we need to confess and turn from all known sin, and maintain unbroken fellowship with the Father and Son. 1 John 1:6-9 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Heb. 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, Study the above verses and ask the Lord for His guidance Grace and peace be multiplied unto thee zach† |
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195 | Defense or offense? | Eph 6:10 | zach† | 36344 | ||
Mommapbs; Eph. 6 11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. (we are to get dressed for battle, we are in a spiritual battle) In 2 Tim. we are referred to as soldiers 2 Tim. 2:3 Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. 4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier. 12 For we wrestle (wrestle indictaes struggle, real not imaginative) not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Eph 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; (Stand, histemi in the Greek, I believe refers to stand prepared and ready, not stand still and do nothing. If we only pray, then that is at least something that all believers should do. See verse 18) 15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: 18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; Paul, said: 1 Tim. 6:12 FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT OF FAITH, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses. 2 Tim. 4:7 I HAVE FOUGHT A GOOD FIGHT, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: If Paul fought the good fight, shouldn't we follow his example? Paul also said: 2 Cor. 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: 4 (For THE WEAPONS OF OUR WARFARE ARE NOT CARNAL, BUT MIGHTY THROUGH GOD to the pulling down of strong holds;) The spiritual battle we are in requires that we have spiritual weapons, such as the word of God, and prayer, and faith. Even in the book of Hebrews we read of those who waged a spiritual battle and were commended for it. Heb 11:32 ¶ And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and of Barak, and of Samson, and of Jephthae; of David also, and Samuel, and of the prophets: 33 Who through faith SUBDUED KINGDOMS, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, 34 Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, WAXED VAILANT IN FIGHT, turned to flight the armies of the aliens. I believe we ought to allow God to lead us into battle, and as He goes before us, and as we trust Him for the victory, He will bring it about. I think of the hymn. "Onward Christian Soldiers" Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war. With the cross of Jesus, going on before. Christ the royal Master, leads against the foe; Forward into battle, see His banner go. Like a mighty army, moves the church of God; Brothers we are trodding, where the saints have trod. Just a few thoughts Grace and Peace zach† |
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196 | Do not quench the Spirit | 1 Thess 5:19 | zach† | 34875 | ||
What exactly does it mean in 1 Thess. 5:19 when it says: "Do not quench the Spirit" I find the following from Strongs concerning the word "quench" 4570 sbennumi (sben-noo-mee) a prolonged form of an apparently primary verb; TDNT - 7:165,1009; AV - quench 7, go out 1; 8 v 1) to extinguish, quench 1a) of fire or things on fire 1a1) to be quenched, to go out 1b) metaph. to quench, to suppress, stifle 1b1) of divine influence So from this definition of "quench" what can we conclude that this "quenching of the Spirit" actually means? In Christ zach† |
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197 | Do not quench the Spirit | 1 Thess 5:19 | zach† | 34891 | ||
Ray; Thanks Let me ask this: Is the Holy Spirit God in us? 1Cor. 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? In Christ zach† |
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198 | Depart from the faith | 2 Thess 2:3 | zach† | 38167 | ||
2 Thess. speaks of the great falling away or apostasy that will take place among individual Christian's as well as whole churches before the Lord's 2nd coming 2Thess. 2:1 ¶ Now we beseech you, brethren, by THE COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, AND [by] OUR GATHERING TOGETHER UNTO HIM, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 ¶ Let no man deceive you by any means: for [THAT DAY (meaning the day of the Lord's 2nd coming)], SHALL NOT COME EXCEPT THERE COME A FALLING AWAY FIRST, (Apostasy) and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 1 Timothy 4:1 says In the latter times some SHALL DEPART FROM THE FAITH. I want to mention here that it is impossible for someone to depart from the faith unless they have first been in the faith. I cannot depart from Chicago unless I am first in Chicago. Just some scriptural food for thought |
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199 | Some will depart from the faith | 1 Tim 4:1 | zach† | 33238 | ||
But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith 1 Tim. 4:1 Question: 1. If I read this verse correctly then it must be possible to fall away from the faith. The KJV phrases it this way. 1Ti 4:1 ¶ Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, So in the NASB it says fall away from the faith and in the KJV it says "depart from the faith. Question 2. How can a person not in the faith depart from the faith? Don't you have to be in the faith before you can depart from it? For example: I desire to depart from Chicago airport. Don't I first have to be in Chicago, before I can depart from Chicago? 1 Tim. 4:1 does not say some might depart from the faith, rather it says: "some will depart from the faith." Does this mean some will depart from the faith, there once held profession, and possession and become apostates, and lose their salvation? |
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200 | fall upward? | 1 Tim 4:1 | zach† | 33281 | ||
Thank you Robert: But if I believe all Scripture is inspired by God, then I must take 1 Tim. 4:1 for what it is worth. When Scripture says in 1 Tim. 4:1 that in the latter times some shall fall away from the faith, it does not say here that some false professors will fall away. It simply says some will depart (leave) the faith. Again I ask; how can one fall from a height which he never attained. Can I fall from a ladder without first being on the ladder? I cannot fall from a ladder I merely profess to be on. I must actually be on the ladder before I can fall from the ladder. I cannot fall upward. I must believe scripture, that there will be those who depart from the faith, and if even one could depart from the faith then others could also. | ||||||
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