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781 | After the pharoah of Egypt captured? | 1 Kin 9:15 | jlpangilinan | 57710 | ||
after the battle of Baal-perazim. The Canaanites retained possession of it till the time of Solomon, when the king of Egypt took it and gave it to Solomon as a part of the dowry of the Egyptian princess whom he married (1Ki 9:15-17). |
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782 | Anyone killed for hindering God's work | Rev 20:4 | jlpangilinan | 57220 | ||
Yes! Stephen stoned to death Ac 7:59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. Ac 7:60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep. In Revealation there are mentioned many martyr being witness of Jesus. Re 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Being witness of Christ will not guarantee the safety of our physical body but of our souls. Mt 10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. God bless, Johnny |
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783 | Is tithing just O.T. or N.T. as well? | Matt 23:23 | jlpangilinan | 56527 | ||
Thanks for you note. actually I disapointed too. I keep give my answers to his question and he keep ignoring mine. If look at his reponse to me he satated that I justread books somewhere else! I never quoted any verse that came from somewhere else it came from the bible! Sorry. Philippines is still the same, politics is too much. Keep pretending that we are the only Christian nation in asia but the outcome is different! Sorry for saying this but is very disappointing that we claimed that we are the only Christian nation in asia but we have the worst in term of corruption. God bless, Johnny |
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784 | Is tithing just O.T. or N.T. as well? | Matt 23:23 | jlpangilinan | 56526 | ||
I did not expect you to believed what I belived what I want you to do is to depend what you believed in. If you believed that people belongs to the new testament required to tithe then you have to prove it. You can prove them by disprove my points I raised. You sais"Just because you picked up some book somewhere and you believe that you don't have to tithe, well you go ahead and believe your doctrine." How dare you saying this, the verses I quoted is verses in the bible and not from books somewhere else! For your information this is a bible forum! Your statement is a strong attack to the scriptures! If you cannot disprove the verses that I quoted dont say that it came from somewhere else, those are came from the bible, and you attacked them. "You said"For the last time, you stated that tithing is of the law, my statement to you was that Abraham was before the law, and he tithe, period." I am sorry, but i have to answer it again. I answer this before but you ignore it because you know you cannot disprove my answer! Ge 14:16 And he brought back all the goods, and also brought again his brother Lot, and his goods, and the women also, and the people. Ge 14:17 ¶ And the king of Sodom went out to meet him after his return from the slaughter of Chedorlaomer, and of the kings that were with him, at the valley of Shaveh, which is the king's dale. 17. Easton Torrey Ge 14:18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. 18. Easton Torrey Ge 14:19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: Ge 14:20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all. No one required abraham to tithe but he gave because he want to no require amount, it apply offering. I did asked this to you before, where did abraham got the goods? He slaughter kings, Please answer this, do you think Christ will allow anyone of us if we kill somebody and took thier goods and gave tithes to God? I asked this question before! it is you who dont know to answer! God bless, Johnny |
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785 | how can i help him/ | Eph 5:18 | jlpangilinan | 56325 | ||
No! that verses is talking about celebration but not to be ungodly liesure: De 14:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household, in the very end of that verse it was mentioned that "shall eat there before the lord" and lord did not tolerate ungodly liesure! It not mentioned there that even ungodly liesure! In the new testament apostle taught us not be drunkerness: Eph 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; Drunkeness is manifested of the flesh: Ga 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Ga 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Ga 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. We can drink wine, bt not to be drunk of wine. Wine (red wine is good for highblood pressure)you can drink wine but it depend upon your motive to drink it. Apostle paul told timothy to drink wine instead of water because of timoty's stomach condition: 1Ti 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities. So you can drink wine, but not to be drunk of wine. God bless, Johnny |
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786 | Is tithing just O.T. or N.T. as well? | Matt 23:23 | jlpangilinan | 56322 | ||
Yes I got it that you dont know how to handle discussion. You dont know how to disprove even one of my point raise. You even dont try to show me the verses that will disprove my point. It is you cannot answer my question, and rely in your heresay! You didn't want to create thread on the subject of tithe because you dont know how to depend what you believe in! You still have the chance to answer my questions if you want. please show me the verses that will disporove my points otherwise you will accepted that you dont know how to deal with discussion at the same time cannot disprove any quetion that I raise to you. If you notice I am active to answer your question verse by verse, it is you that jump if I did answer your questions you leave it and put your nonsense reasoning without bases: Here are the points that I want you to answers: . Prove to me that Jesus Christ has any single teaching that will require us to give ten percent of our income. 2. Please show me any of the apostle that require thier members to give ten percent of thier income. 3. When paul stated that law cannot justify us did he excluded then tithe. 4. Where in the new testament that we have to give tithes and not love offering. If you quoted in the old there is no question about that because they bound the law. 5. Please show me that tithe is not including in the law of prophet. Lu 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. 6. The authority to received tithe is given to the levites and when the change the law they exclude the tithes. Heb 7:5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham: Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. Please answer those question before asking yours because I did answers your questions it is you ignore mine. 7. Why you did not observe the law of moses but you still require to give tithes, if the law cannot justify us what is it in the tithes that will exclude in the law of moses. Please to disprove them and answer them if you are really telling the truth and not rely in you nonsense heresay. You cannot tell me that I am discussing with you with my heresay to. I put verses to support it. Prove to me that you know how to depend what you believed! Please answer me if have the answer to those question I raise. I want an answer to those not a nonsense kind of answers! God bless, Johnny God bless! |
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787 | Is tithing just O.T. or N.T. as well? | Matt 23:23 | jlpangilinan | 56304 | ||
I did answer that to you Law is for God as well, I exaplain to that the law included in the tithe and you have to prove to me that tithe is not including in the law! God established the law trough moses but it has to change! Again you ignore my last post and my answer to your question. You keep jumping in what comment do you like. You said"Some (like yourself) may contend, however, that the law was abrogated under the Gospel. If so, how much of the law, and in what sense? Is the law so abrogated as that we may now, at our pleasure, murder, lie, and steal?" What kind of question is this? As I told you before Jesus Christ gave us the two commandments: Mt 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Mt 22:38 This is the first and great commandment. Mt 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Mt 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. On that two commandments hang all the law of the prophets. What is it in the law that you disobey when you observe that tow law that given by Jesus Christ? Are you going to murder if love you neighbour? Are you going to steal from them if you love them? Do you think, before asking this question? You said"Have we not already seen that Christ came to fulfill the law--to confirm it to the least iota? Matthew 5:17-18," My answer: I did explain this to you before that He fulfill the law with a deeply and different meaning. I ask you if He disobey the when He done work on sabbath, but you ignore it to answer. You said" tithes and offerings applicable to the support of the ministry, and to other religious and charitable works, is clearly the duty of Christians, unless it can be shown that Christ repealed God's law previously promulgated. offering yes! but tithe is not! can you show in the new testament that Christ taught that we have tithe to support His ministry? I know you again ignore this. If you are telling the truth that to support the ministry we have to tithe prove me that Paul require anyone to give tithe in his evangelical journey? show me in the scriptures that they collected tithe enable to support his evangelical works? I know again you will not answer this, but I try. My friends don’t rely own your words that support your statement with the scriptures. If you are telling the truth that enable to support the ministry we give tithe please show me any of the disciples that collecting tithes enable to support their mission? If you can show those verses and event, that will close this discussion, but if cannot show me those verses and events, it is true that you rely in your heresay. Please be reminded that you still not disprove my points! You did not put any verses that will show that Christ teach the tithe! Let remind you to the pints that I raise and you ignore, please try to answers my questions before putting yours, with all due respect when you asked me about abraham and how he tithe I answers those question to you. Now here is my points that I want you to answers. And please answers them with the passages in the new testament. I hope you know when I said teaching of Christ it is in the new testament. 1. Prove to me that Jesus Christ has any single teaching that will require us to give ten percent of our income. 2. Please show me any of the apostle that require thier members to give ten percent of thier income. 3. When paul stated that law cannot justify us did he excluded then tithe. 4. Where in the new testament that we have to give tithes and not love offering. If you quoted in the old there is no question about that because they bound the law. 5. Please show me that tithe is not including in the law of prophet. Lu 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. 6. The authority to received tithe is given to the levites and when the change the law they exclude the tithes. Heb 7:5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham: Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. Please answer those question before asking yours because I did answers your questions it is you ignore mine. 7. Why you did not observe the law of moses but you still require to give tithes, if the law cannot justify us what is it in the tithes that will exclude in the law of moses. If you cannot show them please dont bother anymore! With all due respect you dont know how to deal with discussion, learn it first before you engage! God bless. Johnny |
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788 | Is tithing just O.T. or N.T. as well? | Matt 23:23 | jlpangilinan | 56223 | ||
See you cannot disporove my points I have many questions to ask then it seems that you cannot answers it. Next time when you engage in a didcussion make sure that you know how to answers questions before asking yours. Please disprove fisrt the qouoted verses of the other side before asking your questions. You give answers to my question "why would Jesus Christ have to teach the tithe what God already establish" but you forget to disprove that tithe is not including in the law of moses. Paul said it cannot justify us. You must prove that tithe is not including in the law of moses and other points that I raise. It show of your lack of idea how the discussion goes, you should disprove my point before asking your point. Until this time you did not disprove even one of points. You said"Answer to your question 1, why would Jesus have to teach (tithe) what God has already establish!" My answer: Your answer and questions again show that you are not aware of what you had answer to me. you did not make study to your question before asking it. If your reasoning that if God establish it, then Jesus need not to teach it, who establish the law? It is God. God establish the law through moses as a representative of the law: Joh 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. God established the law why it has to change? Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. God establish the first covenant, why it has fault? Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. God established this law in the old testament... De 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. and Jesus taught it again in the new testament! Mt 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. So if your logic is when God established Jesus need not to teach and "tithe is established by God, Jesus need not to teach it! wrong, wrong, wrong!. God bless, Johnny Ac 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. |
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789 | self control / spirit control | 1 Cor 9:25 | jlpangilinan | 55941 | ||
See you cannot observe it perfectly, and what Jesus said about that. Mt 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Did Jesus told you to observe 50 50 or onehalf of it what kind of observance is that a 50 50 faith. You said "You are correct, I do not observe the Torah perfectly therefore I need Yeshua. One of the reasons we cannot observe the Torah fully is because our government does not use the Torah as its law. If it did then they would be stoned. Since I live under the government of the United States I am unable to observe much of the commands in the Torah, again, why I need Yeshua as my Savior." What is it the important for you to follow Jesus or the government, you should follow what you think is right whatever it cause because you think it right. The apostle prosecuted because of thier believed whay you cannot do the same thing if you think you are right are you afraid of losing you lives: Mt 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. God bless, Johnny Heb 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God. |
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790 | Is tithing just O.T. or N.T. as well? | Matt 23:23 | jlpangilinan | 55939 | ||
Inmyheart, I dont know what you are trying to do here. You just ignore all the verses that I quoted and not disprove it. How can our discussion goes amothly if you dont try to disprove my point, I did answrs your questions. You, you did not try to disprove or prove to me that I misused the scriptures. Let remind you to the pints that I raise and you ignore, please try to answers my questions before putting yours, with all due respect when you asked me about abraham and how he tithe I answers those question to you. Now here is my points that I want you to answers. And please answers them with the passages in the new testament. I hope you know when I said teaching of Christ it is in the new testament. 1. Prove to me that Jesus Christ has any single teaching that will require us to give ten percent of our income. 2. Please show me any of the apostle that require thier members to give ten percent of thier income. 3. When paul stated that law cannot justify us did he excluded then tithe. 4. Where in the new testament that we have to give tithes and not love offering. If you quoted in the old there is no question about that because they bound the law. 5. Please show me that tithe is not including in the law of prophet. Lu 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. 6. The authority to received tithe is given to the levites and when the change the law they exclude the tithes. Heb 7:5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham: Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. Please answer those question before asking yours because I did answers your questions it is you ignore mine. 7. Why you did not observe the law of moses but you still require to give tithes, if the law cannot justify us what is it in the tithes that will exclude in the law of moses. I will answers your question here. You quoted mal. 3:8-12 Please start it in 3:6 Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. Mal 3:7 ¶ Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return? Mal 3:8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Mal 3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. Mal 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. Are you a son of Jacob? are you a jew? if you are a jew and bound by the law of moses this verse is for you because they bound by law. You said"Jesus came to fulfill the law, not abolish it." You are right! but in what way? by giving tithes? by not eating the pork NO! He observe it with a deep meaning. Mt 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Mt 22:38 This is the first and great commandment. Mt 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. He gave commandment to us, what is it in the law when you fulfill this two. If you think that Christ fulfil it by giving tithes and observe the sabbath you are terrible wrong. Mt 12:1 ¶ At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat. Lu 14:3 And Jesus answering spake unto the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath day? He done work on sabbath, it was punishable by death under the law. Did he break the law? I hope you answers my question before ansking yours. God bless, Johnny |
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791 | Is tithing just O.T. or N.T. as well? | Matt 23:23 | jlpangilinan | 55822 | ||
It is not my mind set on not giving the tithe, I am asking if giving of ten percent is teaching of Christ if Yes show me the scriptures, if no why you have to required anyone to give tithes and teach them that it is a requirements. If you believed that tithe is ordained by God until now show me the scriptures that Jesus taught it in the new testament. How could you encourage everyone if you cannot depend what you believed in. If you still believed that it can justify you, and what is the purposes of these verse anyway?: Ac 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. As I told you, if you can prove me that paul excluded tithe when he stated this verse. Now if the tithe is included in this verse, how can you prove me that tithe is a requirement until now. For your information receiving the tithe is not you authority or any pastors of our time it was given to levites: Heb 7:5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham: Are you Jew? it is not surprising that many people try to pretend that son of levi by requiring thier people to give tithes which is the authority of receiving them was given to the levites. It is not given to you, nor to the pastors today, it is very clear that the authority was given to the levites. Heb 7:6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises. Heb 7:7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better. Heb 7:8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth. Heb 7:9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham. Heb 7:10 For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him. Heb 7:11 ¶ If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. "a change also of the law" but you dont want to change the tithe which is included in the law is clear disobedience to the teaching of the apotle! Heb 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God. Now if you can prove to me that tithe is the teaching of Christ, show me my friend prove to me and to the members of this forum. God bless, Johnny |
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792 | Is tithing just O.T. or N.T. as well? | Matt 23:23 | jlpangilinan | 55725 | ||
No one required Abraham to give the tithe, he give it in purposes of his heart. It is different when the law requires the israel to give thier tithe to the levites. If you give it in the purposes of the heart what wrong with that. But if you required anyone to give ten percent this is not teaching of Christ. If you want to give all of your salaries it is acceptable to God but no required amount not ten percent but what is purposes of your heart. Where did abraham get the part of his tithe anyway? Ge 14:15 And he divided himself against them, he and his servants, by night, and smote them, and pursued them unto Hobah, which is on the left hand of Damascus. Ge 14:16 And he brought back all the goods, and also brought again his brother Lot, and his goods, and the women also, and the people. Ge 14:17 ¶ And the king of Sodom went out to meet him after his return from the slaughter of Chedorlaomer, and of the kings that were with him, at the valley of Shaveh, which is the king's dale. Ge 14:18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. Ge 14:19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: Ge 14:20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all. Abraham slaughter kings and got thier goods and give the tithe of all. Do yuou think Christ will love you if slaughter Kings and take thier goods and give the tithes of all? Do you think Christ will allow you to killed someone and get thier goods and give tithe to Christ? I dont think so. My challenge is the same show me that giving the ten percent is teaching of Christ and His apostle. God bless, Johnny |
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793 | Can you send me a copy of pasugo 1939? | Bible general Archive 1 | jlpangilinan | 55724 | ||
How can I send that to you I dont know you address. If you are in the Philippines please watch ANG DATING DAAN at channel 21 72 if you are using sky cable 53 if youare in home cable. If you are interested you can go to thier station at 15F strate building pasig city., There you can get all information regarding the doctrine of different religion such as INC JW Mormons, and how they deny thier own teachings. God bless, Johnny |
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794 | Is tithing just O.T. or N.T. as well? | Matt 23:23 | jlpangilinan | 55721 | ||
Yes! It was under the law of moses. Tithe is a very important in the jewish religion. But there is no single teaching of Christ that will require us to give ten percent of our income. Also no one of the disciples require anyone to give tithes to them. Ac 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. In the verse that I quoted above, it says that law of moses cannot justify us. Including in that law is tithe. It is also very hard to believe that we are Christian are ready to accpted that we cannot justify by but we still required to do things including iin the law. We are now ready to accept that we can eat pork and other food that the law cannot alow us to eat but then we still required to give tithes. We have to be consistent as Christ said to the scribes they are hypocrite: Mt 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. If we observe the the tithe, we must observe other part of the law such us not eating pork the law of circumsation, killing our brother or sisters if we saw them gathering stick in the day of sabbath. We do not observe this because it is part of the law, but tithe is also part of the law. Are they excluded it when the stated that law cannot justify us? the answer is no! The teaching about love offering in the new testament goes: 2Co 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. No required amount, what is purposes of the heart. God bless, Johnny |
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795 | Is tithing just O.T. or N.T. as well? | Matt 23:23 | jlpangilinan | 55720 | ||
Can you please show me that giving of ten percent of our income is teaching of Christ. Can you please show me any teaching in the new testament that will require us to give ten percent of our income. Can you please show me that Christ required His apotles to give ten percent to Him. Can you please show me any of the disciples require thier church members to give ten percent to them. You said "Many debates over the tithe being for the New Testament Christian. One thing if very clear... the tithe is the Lord's. The tithe is Holy. What would keep one from not tithing other that fear of doing without, greed, unbelief? Faith is what pleases God. You are right tithe is including in the law of moses they are the same holy but after Christ crusified the law of moses cannot justify us. Including in that very law is the tithe. Ac 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Tithe is inlcuding in the law, it cannot justify us. Or you can prove to me that tithe is not including in the law. You quoted this verse: Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. If you observe the tithe and not other matters of the law, you are not consistent as Christ said Hypocrite. If you observe the tithe you must observe other part of the law as Christ said in this verse. My question to you, do you observe other law of moses such not eating the pork, stone to death your brother or sisters if you saw them gathering stick in the day of sabbath? What is it in the tithe that you cannot reject? We reject other law of moses but tithe is not? when Paul stated that law of moses cannot justify us did he exclude the tithes? The teaching about giving in the new testament goes: 2Co 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. No required amount, not ten percent but what is porpuses of the heart. I will challenge you in these two verses Lu 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. Ac 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Did tithe excluded when they stated this verses? Please show me the passages in the scriptures. |
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796 | what are the good works or good fruits? | Eph 2:8 | jlpangilinan | 55620 | ||
If we are reading the bible very often you can define what good fruit of them, not just for the nieghborhood but how to follow the example of Christ and His apostle to serve God. If they done the same thing, they are the true flocks. If they follow the word of God correctly. We have to read the bible so we can define what we have to believed or not. God bless, Johnny |
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797 | Is Jesus Christ a person? | John 1:1 | jlpangilinan | 55619 | ||
Welcome to the forum!. Yes He is a Person, a Son of God. INC believed that Christ is just a man but this is not true, because God the father revealed that He is God. Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one. Joh 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Joh 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? Joh 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. If we believed that Christ is just a man we are like the jew that accusing Him of blasphemy! one of the reason why the jews want kill Him because He consider Himself as a begotten Son. If we believed the same as jews believed we also accusing Christ of blasphemy! The INC before believed that CHRIST is GOD they even recognize the Trinity, it is just later they deny thie own teaching. They stated that they believed in Trinity in pasugo 1939 issue. God bless, Johnny |
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798 | explain tithes acording to malachai 3:10 | Mal 3:10 | jlpangilinan | 55590 | ||
Meaning you cannot show me any single teaching of Christ in the new testament that will require us to give ten percent of our income. Love offering is important but no required amount this is the teaching that given to us by Christ and His apostles. It is very hard to believed that you reject other law of moses and do part of it, as Jesus said it is the same thing what scribes do. Christ I believed set Himself as an examples to us. If tithe or ten percent is important he will make Himself as example into it. When he taught that baptism is important He done it by setting Himself as an example, He asked John to baptize Him in the river of Jordan. Mt 3:13 ¶ Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. Mt 3:14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? Mt 3:15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. Mt 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: Did Christ required Himself to give ten percent? the answer is NO. To those who required thier members to give ten percent of thier income, they always quoted malachi 3:10 as a promise, if you started reading it from 3:6 it was stated that it is specific to Israel because they are bound by law of moses. Are we Jew we are not and we are not bound by law of moses but by grace. It is very clear that law of moses cannot justify us as I quoted in my last post, and tithe is including in the law of moses. I did not say that giving is bad, but there is no required amount if you can give all of your salaries it is acceptable to Him but there is no required amount. Please show me that tithe is a teaching of Christ, and I will believed you. Paul never required his churchmember to give tithes he work his own to earn his living and to serve the church, he was a tent maker during his evangelical journey. This is the great examples of serving Christ. Again I challenge you to show me that single teaching of Christ that will require us to give ten percent. God bless, Johnny |
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799 | do teachers agree on issue of lost salva | James 3:1 | jlpangilinan | 55508 | ||
Salvation when you received it is impossible to lose it. I think salvation is not a simple thing that sometime you have it and lost again and again. But we have to be reminded that being save is between you and God. The question is are we really saved. If we are save, we are belong to the flocks of Christ, and no one can fluck us from His father hands: Joh 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: Joh 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. Joh 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. So if you are save, how can you lose it if is Christ gave the assurance that no one can pluck them out from His Fathers hand? The questions maybe raise that how about those person that sometimes being a member of the church received baptism but after a while become a backslider? If we notice those person sometime become worse than before, they commit horrible crimes such us rape, murder, and other form of evil that only not save person can do? The question again is are they really recieved the salvation? Here I cannot judge them only God can justify that. Here is my explaination regarding that. If we are a save person it is impossible for us to commit those evil thing because as Paul said: Ga 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. If we received salvation it is Christ live in us, if Christ live in us it is impossible to lose salvation once you received it. I hope it would help God bless, Johnny |
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800 | and to me if all of us believe the same | Eph 2:8 | jlpangilinan | 55501 | ||
The bible is right, it is the people that has different interpretations. Bible is debatable that ia why too many congregetion we have now. You said "if we believed the same thing" people has different believed in what they read in the bible this is the reason why we have different religions. There are people that want to worship idols, there are people that want to require tithes to thier members, there other that believe Christ is just God with an small "g" other believed that His only a human like us. As you said "it hard to get an understanding of what the right way is" use the bible as your guide it will not make you loose. Regarding to choose of what religion is right, dont just listen of what they telling you, observe if they produce the good fruit, because you will knew them in thier fruits: Mt 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. Mt 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. If they are producing good fruits they are the right religion, you are right all religions are claiming to be the true, but you will recognize them in thier fruit. God bless, Johnny |
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