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881 | Divorce for no sexual life ever - OK? | Matt 19:9 | jlhetrick | 171018 | ||
Hello Emmaus, Please refer to my post to kalos' post to address this post of yours:-) When attempting to apply this kind of legal argument to the issue, you miss an essential point. In the case of your post, the fraud could be based on anything, not only the issue of sex. If something else, then perhaps sex has already occured. If so, and there was never a marriage (legally) then the innocent one is not innocent having committed sexual immorality. Again, when we push further away from man's legal position, and draw closer to the clear teachings found in scripture; it is not that difficult an issue. Christ's love, Jeff |
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882 | Divorce for no sexual life ever - OK? | Matt 19:9 | jlhetrick | 171016 | ||
Hello Kalos, In order to understand marriage from a biblical perspective (the only legitimate marriage) we must go back to the beginning. Literally, the very beginning of man. See: Genesis 2:19 - 25 When God created Adam He created him uniquely different from every other living thing. So unique, in fact, that there was none found suitable for him. So God took from Adam a part of his flesh (a rib) and formed a suitable partner in Eve. Genesis 2:24 (KJV) Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother—There shall be, by the order of God, a more intimate connection formed between the man and woman, than can subsist even between parents and children." "And they shall be one flesh—These words may be understood in a twofold sense. 1. These two shall be one flesh, shall be considered as one body, having no separate or independent rights, privileges, cares, concerns, etc., each being equally interested in all things that concern the marriage state. 2. These two shall be for the production of one flesh; from their union a posterity shall spring, as exactly resembling themselves as they do each other."—Adam Clarke's Commentary With this in mind; within marriage, #1) a man and a woman is "considered as one body......" The perfect example in scripture to support this is that of the Church. There are many individuals, however, it is referred to as "one body" Romans 12:4 - 5 4 For just as we have many members in one body and all the members do not have the same function, 5 so we, who are many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another. (NASB) Where does sex fit in the picture. #2) within marriage, it is the means through which God has ordained that the human race shall reproduce. We can also look to Soloman's words and agree that the physical enjoyment of sex is not only allowed for, but appropriate and encouraged between a husband and wife. What do we do with 1 Corinthians 15-16 15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take away the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? May it never be! 16 Or do you not know that the one who joins himself to a prostitute is one body with her? For He says, "THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH." Well, I would argue that based on the Baker's Evangelical Dictionary's interpretation of marriage (as presented in your post); the offender is now married to the prostitute. However, with the appllication of God's word, logic, and common sense, we can be assured that the physical act of sex is not the sole, establishing criteria for marriage as emmaus appears to be arguing. Christ's love, Jeff |
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883 | Divorce for no sexual life ever - OK? | Matt 19:9 | jlhetrick | 171014 | ||
Hello Emmaus: If nana was my daughter of course I would be offering her advise in this situation. Yes I have a daughter. In fact, I have four of them. Two of them have children of their own. The other two may eventually marry men that are incapable of performing sexually. Or, may not be willing to perform sexually. My advise to both would be that the scripture does not allow for divorce based on this alone. Even if they have yet to involve the sexual act. You write: "God law is that we not lie when entering into sacred bonds. A marriage vow that is based on a lie is no vow at all but fraud. It is akin to perjury." A person's committment to marriage (and love) is based on his/her own comittment and not what may or not be true or a lie in the other person. Jesus Christ represents the perfect example of this kind of committment and love (Romans 5:8). If I found that something that I believed about my wife (a major thing that drew me closer to her and encouraged my desire to marry her) turned out to have been a lie, would I be freed from the bonds of marriage? Or perhaps you would argue that I was never bonded in marriage with her because it was based on her lie. Well, that would mean I have been committing adultry and living a sexually imoral life for going on 16 years now. When we try to make sex the foundation of marriage, we not only find ourselves in conflict with clear teachings of God's word; we find ourselves in conflict with logic and common sense. Help! Jeff PS. Please refer to my upcoming post to Kalos in this thread. |
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884 | Divorce for no sexual life ever - OK? | Matt 19:9 | jlhetrick | 171008 | ||
Emmaus, You wrote: "To marry one must be able to perform the primary duty of marriage with one's partner" I assume by saying "primary duty (singlurar)" that you are continue to refer to the act of sex. Where do you base your statement in scripture? It's not even a good argument my friend. And concerning my hypothetical, well, it's not really a hypothetical. It is a very true situation concerning a patient of mine. Remember. When you start with an original situation as in "which started this thread" and more light is shown on it from scripture; the logical thing to do is go with the revelation of scripture and not attempt to stick to original premise. I must assume that nana's original question was sincere. That is, is divorce for no sexual life ever ok. Answer from scripture; NO, it is not. The legitimacy of debate really ends there. Hope this helps, Jeff |
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885 | Divorce for no sexual life ever - OK? | Matt 19:9 | jlhetrick | 171006 | ||
Hello Emmaus: I think the problem you are having in understanding marriage is that you are under the impression that a man and woman make themselves "one flesh" by having sex. This is far short from understanding that it is God who makes them one flesh. I believe you have taken the meaning of this and assigned a human action as accomplishing what scripture says God does. you write that because something is recognized in law does not mean it may not also be scriptural. Yes, I agree. That was not my point at all. My point was simply that because the law of man may provide an escape, God's law trumps man's law. For Chrisitians, divorce is only acceptable based on God's approved reasons. Man's law, for example, allows for divorce when a husband and wife have "differences" they can not resolve. Does God's word allow for this? It's really not a hard issue when scripture is applied, Jeff |
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886 | Divorce for no sexual life ever - OK? | Matt 19:9 | jlhetrick | 170998 | ||
Emmaus, I'm confident that you will reconsider your statements here after viewing them in light of my following comments. You wrote: "Scripture says that a husband and wife will "become one flesh." Where there is no consummation they do not "become one flesh" and there is no binding marriage unless both parties have agreed to this beforehand" This really is a short-sighted view. Illustration. a man and woman are married. After the ceremony they rush off to their honeymoon and the rest of their lives together. On the way to (where ever their going) they are in an accident. One of them is permenantly injured and never able to perform sexually for the other. Are they not married? Is it right before God for the healthy one to walk away from the vows and marry a healthy mate that can perform? You also wrote: "A sacred or holy act, i.e. marriage, cannot be based on a sin (lie) of ommission, which the failure to dislose impotence is." Can you point me to the scripture on this one please. I would venture to say that a great many marriages occur after both parties have been dishonest during their courtship prior to marriage. Does this mean that those of US who may have mislead our spouse before marriage on one issue or another, are not really married? Furthmore, there are many, many things about my wife that I did not learn until after we were married. In fact, I'm sure that there continues to be things about her (before me) that I have not yet learned. She has "omitted them" either intentionally, or unintentionally. Are we not really married? Pleas help me understand your position, Jeff |
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887 | Divorce for no sexual life ever - OK? | Matt 19:9 | jlhetrick | 170997 | ||
Hello Emmaus, You are talking legal talk and not scripture. Nothing in the bible (that I am aware of) qualifies a marriage as being fully "consummated" only after the physical act of sex has ocurred (as you seem to be saying is the case). What does "false pretenses" have to do with it? False pretenses is not mentioned as a legitimate reason for divorce in the Scriptures. So nanna's description may certainly be grounds for an annulment in the family court system of her state. But it is not legal grounds based on scripture (she did ask for bible relevent answers). Jeff |
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888 | "Here I stand; I can do no other." | 2 Thess 2:15 | jlhetrick | 170938 | ||
Very well said Russ, Jeff |
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889 | Bible before interpetation into English | Jer 27:6 | jlhetrick | 170781 | ||
Hello dnewland, Just a comment that might help. You write: "Paul goes a little further than Jesus did." If you believe the Scriptures to be the word of God you have to reconsider your statement. Paul took no liberty of his own in writing Romans 13. He was inspired by God to write everything you are calling into question. You write that it isn't as clear cut as others think it is. Yet others have presented clearly what the bible has to say on the issue. Particularly Jesus' statment regarding rendering unto Caesar. Jesus refused to get caught up in a political word-game, and so should you. You may study further to see that Jesus and His disciples did pay taxes. As you know, the government under Caesar did enormous injustices financed by the tax monies of the people, including that payed by Jesus and the disciples. You might consider this as well. When you pay your tithe at church what does the church do with the money? You probably don't know the answer to that as most Christians probably don't. Is there ever inappropriate and perhaps even sinful spending by those in the church that have control over the money? Probably by some. Do we stop paying the tithe? When you pay your tithe you serve God and the people of God. If another uses that money unjustly, outside of your control, it is he that will answer to God for it. the same is true of government taxes. Jeff |
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890 | Future sacrifices? | Heb 10:10 | jlhetrick | 170647 | ||
Hi Doc, You wrote: "I exhort one and all to stand on the rock of the clear teachings of the Word over and above the shifting sands of end-time speculation. (cf 1 Corinthians 2:12-13)" I 2nd the motion. Thank you. Jeff |
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891 | animals and the flood | Gen 6:9 | jlhetrick | 170572 | ||
WOW! Hank, You made me have to go the the dictionary. felicitious? Adroitly? I can't pronounce them so I'll probably not be able to remember them. Seriously though, thanks for your kindness. I never stop learning from you. I'm not referring to the word choices, but your very sincere interaction with others. bless you brother, Jeff |
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892 | animals and the flood | Gen 6:9 | jlhetrick | 170566 | ||
Hi Hank, greetings to you brother. I would like to respond to your post here as well as the previous one that you made to John Hobbs. first of all, in general, I agree with everything you have said. I say in general becaus in the first post to John I do take up one issue. Though my position is similar to Ocelot's, I'm not sure our reasons are the same. I'll just state it clearly here. I think that one of the problems (unavoidable to some degree) is that the forum doesn't allow for face to face interaction by which we can know the age, social maturity, background, and true conviction by which many questions are asked (personal profiles help of course). My point. Some of these "why" questions people ask are very sincere. These questions sometimes come from a spirit of division, however, sometimes the questioner really doesn't understand why. That is, he/she doesn't fully comprehend the sovereignty of God, and/or hasn't reached a place where they have truly connected God's sovereignty with His choices and actions. I believe that the faith of many has been made strong by asking these questions sincerely and having them answered by the understanding of Scripture. "Why does God allow babies to die?" A very legitimate question if asked with a sincere desire to understand it. You and I know that God has taken the time to reveal this understanding. Not all have reached that place. Finally, you quote 2 Timothy 4:2 which suppports your position sufficiently. Still, it is often easy for us to focus on the words reprove, rebuke, exhort, and doctrine while quickly reading over "long suffering. Here, this verse commands our patience with those who are less knowledgeable and in need of teaching. Last but not least, let us not forget that reverence for God is something that is learned not something we have automatically once saved. Deut 31:12-13 12 Assemble the people — men, women and children, and the aliens living in your towns — so they can LISTEN AND LEARN TO FEAR THE LORD your God and follow carefully all the words of this law. 13 Their children, who do not know this law, MUST HEAR IT AND LEARN TO FEAR the LORD your God as long as you live in the land you are crossing the Jordan to possess." NIV (caps. added) Your brother in Christ, Jeff |
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893 | animals and the flood | Gen 6:9 | jlhetrick | 170564 | ||
your welcome kennymike, God bless, Jeff |
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894 | animals and the flood | Gen 6:9 | jlhetrick | 170554 | ||
Hello MasterWalk, For me, it's not so much an issue of childishness. A lot of us have various beliefs that are ultimately false. This is due to various things including the way we were raised, religious background, acedemic accomplishments, etc. An example would be The Tooth Fairy. You see, some things we learn to belief are born out of convenience, perceived necessity, emotions, or just plain being warm and fuzzy to believe in. I don't consider you childish for believing what you do about animals. I do ask what you base your belief on. I mentioned a list of reasons why we all have, or have had false beliefs. The most important reason, however, I left out. That being, ignorance of God's word. I have had my beliefs adjusted and rearranged by the truth found in Scripture. I have come to know that a few major things I have believed were in fact false as the truth was revealed to me through Scripture. This has happened more than once through participation on this forum. I thank God for it. So, it really doesn't matter that we agree or disagree on this issue. The challenge, however, is to substantiate your belief with Scripture. Regarding this topic, I have already done so. Sincerely, Jeff |
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895 | job 1-3 | Bible general Archive 3 | jlhetrick | 170545 | ||
Hello b50115, Welcome to the forum. Complete a profile and tell us a little about yourself. I took the bait and visited the website. For the sake of others, it lists a whole lot of scientific questions. I also looked back at you previous post which list multiple questions in one post. First, try to limit each post to one plain question (sometimes a follow up question in anticipation is appropriate). For others to respond appropriately to so many questions would require them to use multiple posts anyway due to the limited number of characters one can type in any given post. With that, I have a question for you. Are you saved? If you don't know what I mean and want to know more simply respond appropriately. I ask because this question is the most important of all. Knowledge of the others is of no lasting value to the lost and perishing. Christ's Love, Jeff |
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896 | animals and the flood | Gen 6:9 | jlhetrick | 170544 | ||
Hello Kennymike (and also hic if your following) Animals, like men, are creations of God. Animals, unlike men, do not have soles. Wanted you to have this in mind while reading on. At the most basic level we are to understand that God is sovereign (supreme ruler)over all things (Daniel 4:35); not only because He is God, but because He created all things (Eph. 3:9). We know that God is holy (Rev. 15:4) and Just (Psa. 89:14) With these things in mind, we have to know that the choices of God are always perfect and always for a purpose of His own. Therefore, to seek to understand these things is not a bad thing, but to accept them as the rightesous and holy plan of a loving and supreme ruler (even when we don't understand it) is a must. You ask: "where does this animal cruelty fit in with the scheme of things?" good question. Some would have animals on an equal with man. Read almost any newspaper and listen to almost any news radio or tv show and it won't be long before you read or hear it plainly. Still, some would have us relegated to the position of "serving" animals rather than visa versa (same time, same channel). What does the bible say about this? Gen 1:26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." Included in God's plan was and is that man rule over animals and that they serve us; such as the horse and ox for work, and the cow, chicken and fish for food The bible also teaches that we are to be good stuards of all that God has placed us over including the animals. That includes not being abusive to them. Deu 25:4 "You shall not muzzle an ox when it is treading out the grain. Hic had asked something along the lines of what "sin" were animals guilty of to have perished in the flood along with all of humanity save for Noah and his family. The answer is, none. Animals are not guilty, nor are they innocent. They are without soles, they were not created in the image or likeness of God as man was. The bible speaks nowhere of the Lord being born a man and dieing on the cross to redeem animals, but only man. Animals are neither lost nor saved. Do all dogs go to heaven? I don't know, only God knows. Hope this helps, Jeff |
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897 | Christian divorce isONLY for forniction? | Bible general Archive 3 | jlhetrick | 170467 | ||
Hello neffers, Welcome to the forum. Not sure if I understand you question. fornication, for a married person, is adultrery. by definition, it is "consensual sex between two people who are not married to each other". hope this helps, Jeff |
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898 | ... | Is 4:1 | jlhetrick | 170465 | ||
Hello Aaron, You are the one that is making up your own stuff that not only doesn't agree with the orthodox beliefs, nor does it agree with scripture. Out of context, yes, your teaching something that has been shown here in this thread to be out of context and can not be supported within the very context from which you yank it. so at this point in your beliefs, on this threads topic, yes, I have no choice but to put you in the category of someone who is not hearing from God. You see Aaron. God uses His word to correct us. 2 Tim 3:16 16 Every scripture inspired of God (is) also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction , for instruction which is in righteousness. ASV 1 Tim 1:3 3 As I exhorted thee to tarry at Ephesus, when I was going into Macedonia, that thou mightest charge certain men not to teach a different doctrine , ASV When the word of God speaks to you (as those in this thread have pointed out for you) and you will not listen, then you are not hearing from God. Jeff |
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899 | ... | Is 4:1 | jlhetrick | 170464 | ||
Hello Aaron, you write: "They could show me from the scriptures how the apostles revealed prophesy being fulfilled. for example the fulfillment of Judas as I showed in an earlier part of this thread. If the apostles can do it why can't we. Do we not share the same Holy Spirit or is their another spirit that was in them?" perhaps you've missed the whole point. you, and we, are not apostles. Jeff |
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900 | ... | Is 4:1 | jlhetrick | 170449 | ||
hello again Aaron, you quoted: "1Jo 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error." Is your point here that you are the "we" and the "us" referred to in this verse and that the rest of us are the "he that is not of God heareth not us."????? Jeff |
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