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501 | Why is it not relevant today? | Matt 12:31 | jlhetrick | 186914 | ||
Psalm, I was really asking you to clarify your position; sorry I wasn't clear. For reference I will copy and paste your post (186832 ). You wrote: “If we keep Matt. 12:31 in context the pharisees refused to acknowledge Jesus as "the Son of God," and were therfore attributing His miracles as originating from Satan rather than from God. They only had two choices, either Jesus was "from God the Father" or He was not. If He was not then He got His power from the devil. The reason it is not relevant today is it was directly addressed to the pharisees as "they were the ones blaspheming the Holy Spirit giving credit for the miracles to Satan." The reason it was unforgivable is they did not believe in Jesus as being the Son of God. The one and only unforgivable sin is refusing to believe in Jesus.” In the effort to be clear I will keep it simple. I don’t agree that the argument that Jesus “addressed the Pharisees directly as they were the ones blaspheming the Holy Spirit…” supports that the sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit is not relevant for today. I did offer an alternative that I have heard others argue, put simply, it was not that Jesus addressed them directly, but rather that they addressed Him directly. In other words, the argument offers that because Jesus the man as ascended and is no longer doing miracles in person for us to witness, it is impossible for us to witness it first hand and attribute it to Satan. After rereading your post several times, it may be that the later is what you were trying to say (maybe not- not wanting to put words in your mouth so to speak :) I may have said that this argument carries some logic, but I also said, and want to reiterate, that I don’t claim to know the answer; I don’t know the answer. Another thing that stood out and lead me to seek clarification was that you seemed to be contradicting yourself; and of course I may be simply misunderstanding you, thus the need for clarification. In either case, you seem to be saying that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit does not/can not occur today while at the same time ending your post with “The one and only unforgivable sin is refusing to believe in Jesus”. It is still possible to, and many do, live a life-time and die having refused to believe in Jesus. So based on your post, as I understand it, you either do believe in at least two unforgivable sins, OR, you believe blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is still relevant for today (and refusing to believe in Christ is that sin), OR, you don’t believe people refuse to believe in Jesus (and I'm not saying that either is true, just left unsure which). Some might argue that this whole issue is irrelevant and not worthy of serious time and consideration. My response to that would be that if there is such thing as a sin that is UNFORGIVABLE by God (and Jesus clearly said there is) it ranks way up there. Whether or not we can answer if the sin is committable today begs the question, why is the warning found in Scripture? God bless, Jeff |
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502 | Why is it not relevant today? | Matt 12:31 | jlhetrick | 186896 | ||
WOS, As is to be expected, your feedback is right on target and much appreciated. If you look back at my post, my comments on the views regarding the particular sin and whether it can still be committed were not my own views, but the arguments I have heard others make. It's impossible at this point to reference a source for them as they are simply memories of different things I have heard. I most recently heard both sides of the argument night before last on a radio talk show I happened upon while waiting for my youngest daughter to get out of class. I have no idea the name of the program or the speakers. Anyway, I didn't offer my own opinion because it would be just that, opinion. Not worth a grain of salt if I can't back it up with Scripture and I can't so I won't on this issue. I agree totally with your statement "Rejecting the God inspired testimony of the Christ (and what He did) seems really similar to blaspheming the Holy Spirit since it is the Spirit that bears witness in God’s Word." WOS, your feedback is always appreciated and deeply considered as I have found you to be a consciences, biblically based participant. Thanks and God bless, Jeff |
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503 | Why is it not relevant today? | Matt 12:31 | jlhetrick | 186895 | ||
Thank you Psalm 25, I don't believe we ever crossed wires on the definition of blasphemy and I don't believe anything either of us have posted suggests that either of us might be confused about the definition. I definitely agree that the THEORY of evolution is blasphemous. If one studies the theory even on a basic level, he will find that it easily and obviously falls into the category of "foolish things" (1Cor 1:27) Did you have a response to my post though? God bless, Jeff |
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504 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | jlhetrick | 186894 | ||
Amen! | ||||||
505 | Why is it not relevant today? | Matt 12:31 | jlhetrick | 186857 | ||
Hello Psalm 52, I have heard arguments both on the side that the unforgivable sin of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is still a possible sin today and that it is not possible to commit this sin today. On the side of it still being possible the basic gist is that all who die unsaved are guilty of the sin. In fact, as the argument goes, it is the disavowing of Christ's work on the cross that amounts to the sin. On the other side of the argument I have never heard it taught that, as you put it, "The reason it is not relevant today is it was directly addressed to the pharisees as "they were the ones blaspheming the Holy Spirit giving credit for the miracles to Satan." I don't know the answer myself, though I can't understand how your statement about it might in any way suggest the sin was uniquely relevent only to those pharisees. We might perhaps rule out gentiles whom might have likewise given credit to the miracles of Christ to Satan; as they had not been entrusted with the law and the Scriptures. They really had no basis from which to attribute the Lord's work to the one true God. The Gentiles were not well versed in the Scritpures nor awaiting the promise of the Messiah. But what of other Jews who witnessed the miracles of Christ? The argument that it does not apply to today that makes most sense to me is as follows. Those who personally witnessed the man Jesus perform miracles and works (not heard about them but witnessed them) and had knowledge of what to expect in the Messiah; having seen and being unwilling to believe and furthermore basing their rejection on the attribution to Satan were guilty. The argument continues that because our Lord has ascended and it is impossible for any to witness Jesus the man perform a miracle, it is impossible to commit blasphemy of the Holy Spirit in our time. As I stated, I don't know the answer myself, but I don't agree that it was only possible for those pharisees based on the fact that Christ "directly addressed" them or they were the ones in that specific event who made the accusation. I am a bit confused too by your last statement "the one and only unforgivable sin is refusing to believe in Jesus". Does this amount to saying that refusing to believe in Jesus and blasphemy of the Holy Spirit are the exact same thing? If we were to agree that this is true, we would have to conclude that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is as much possible today as at any time. Would you agree? In any case, your post has encouraged my deeper thinking on the issue so thank you. God bless, Jeff |
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506 | Calvin or Armini | Bible general Archive 3 | jlhetrick | 186806 | ||
shame on us? shame on you. nana nana boo boo. !-) |
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507 | Calvin or Armini | Bible general Archive 3 | jlhetrick | 186805 | ||
Psalm 25, I hope that my previous response to you was sufficient to address this post as well. God bless, Jeff |
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508 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | jlhetrick | 186804 | ||
I agree that arguing about the issue may not at all edify anyone and arguing is rarely productive. I do have to stand by my calling you to account for your teaching with Scripture; but I certainly appreciate that I can not force you too. We can agree to disagree but I can't agree to sit passively by while you or anyone else presents opinion as biblical teaching. You see friend, the matters of life and death and the condition of ones soul are not matters that two differing "opinions" can both be right on. Hardly points to agree to disagree on. Rather, we should do our best to present to others what Scripture says on such matters and remain silent where Scripture is silent. I'm not so interested in "moving you from where you are" as you put it. I'm more concerned about addressing teachings that don't agree with the bible. "All of us are saved right?" No, wrong my friend. I suspect that there might be hundreds if not more who visit this site, some regularly, that are still unsaved. More the reason to insure what we teach is sound. God bless, Jeff |
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509 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | jlhetrick | 186800 | ||
I agree, and while I like to believe that I am always maturing as a Christian, I must admit that I don't fully comprehend the justice, the sovereignty, and other characteristics of our God. What I mean is, while I believe I have a good grip on the meanings of these and how they apply to God in general, I continue to be surprised at times in discovering them demonstrated in Scripture. God bless, Jeff |
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510 | Calvin or Armini | Bible general Archive 3 | jlhetrick | 186799 | ||
Amen! | ||||||
511 | Calvin or Armini | Bible general Archive 3 | jlhetrick | 186787 | ||
Dear Psalm 25, Welcome to the Forum. I might suspect that some time becoming accustomed to the Forum and the regular posters might be in order before accusing some of "attacking" and using grandmotherly terms such as "shame on them" when your referring to adult bothers and sisters. In any case, you didn't seem to think that necessary. Perhaps a strait-forward education is in order here brother/sister. I'll keep it short: The majority of the regular poster here take the Terms of Use and the "About the Forum" guidelines seriously. When a poster comes along that does not take them seriously we usually approach it largely based on how the "offending" post(s) are presented. Sometimes it's simply a matter of redirecting a poster to the Terms of Use in order to remind him/her of the agreement he/she made when signing up. In some cases, this fails and a poster will continue to violate those terms (say, continuing to attempt to start a debate on a divisive issue- a clear violation) in spite of being encouraged not to. The debate (and it can certainly be called that) surrounding election and free will is long-standing. I can assure you that nothing you have posted so far and nothing you might post will add significantly to that. Furthermore, the debate has a history on this very Forum and can be studied by using the "Search" function. A good rule of thumb in an social situation is to watch and listen (in this case read) at least long enough to understand what is going on before drawing a conclusion and making a judgment about the situation. Hope this is helpful in getting you adjusted. God bless, Jeff |
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512 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | jlhetrick | 186737 | ||
I have to refer you back to my original response my friend. You are in serious need of doctrine. Your understanding of Scripture seems to be based at best on your own opinion or assumptions as has been pointed out. As requested before, please provide Scriptural support for your argument. By the way, the word of God does not even suggest that Judas went to Hell because he committed suicide. In fact, it doesn't say he went to Hell at all though we can safely draw that conclusion I believe. It is you, my friend, who needs the advise to study. It is not sufficient to simply take our preconceived notions about how things are or aught to be and then wrap Scripture around them in a way that fits. That, my friend, is what's "wrong here and now" not theology. Look up the word and you will have a better understanding of where I am coming from, I hope. I am not attacking you, but shining light on the inaccuracy of your teaching. That, is what this Form is about. Getting it right and accepting redirection when the Scriptures are doing the directing. If you ever have the time, and are sufficiently bored, research my posts. You will find that I have been there and done that. I am thankful for the redirection I have received by others. without it, I would still be walking around believing in some things that are, well besides being nonsense, untrue. Wouldn't want that. As for "only recognizing scripture when it says this book and this verse then you have a problem" I can't respond other than to say I have no idea what you might mean by that statement. However, that you are at least aware of the "book" 2Timothy and the chapter and verse 2:15 gives me hope that you will find yourself growing in understanding as I do. Don't be discouraged. None of us have all the answers and those of us who are serious about learning and understanding the truth have also had to let go of some of our preconceptions and bad theology. What I have learned over time, is that it is actually a great relief and a great joy when I have been able to let go of a strongly held belief after having the truth revealed by God's word. I want to offer a new beginning point for you that might help in gaining a better understanding regarding Judas (since that seems to be the single bolt your building is hinged on regarding suicide). Study repentance. Not simply the definition, but what it truly means. Once you have a good understanding apply what you have learned to Judas (which will require effort in seriously reviewing Judas life and actions). I believe then that you should have the answer. If not, we will visit the Old Testament for further insight if you are interested. Hope this is helpful, Jeff |
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513 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | jlhetrick | 186733 | ||
God is just. And He is sovereign too. | ||||||
514 | Mat 21:12 Arrogance or what? on J' part | Matt 21:13 | jlhetrick | 186697 | ||
Hello jbrob, humbledbyhisgrace (Steve) gave an excellent response in my opinion. I would like to add a thought or two if I may. While agreeing with Steve that we can not specifically speak to this particular situation (not knowing the truth of the matter) we can make some observations that might help give food for thought for your "next discussion". Some may disagree, but it is my experience that the Pastors of today have been degraded by the very flocks they were called to shephard in many ways. We hear about it and see it all the time. I personally know of more than one situation where the Pastor has been literally ousted for telling the truth. Of course, the truth is often hard to swallow and may hurt more than a little; therefore, we can only tolerate a small portion of it. We can't have our pastors out there telling it like it is too often; too many may tuck tail and run; where? Well down the road of course, to the church on the corner which makes them feel warm and fuzzy and really normal in spite of their unconfessed and unrepented sin. I believe a careful study of our Lord will reveal a man and a God who is somewhat different from the soft-spoken, gentle little passive persona that Hollywood has portrayed. While many in the church today would not tolerate the turning over of the money-changer's tables, neither would they tolerate the brood being labeled as vipers I suspect. While we are considering these things lets not forget to offer thanksgiving and prayer for those our Father has called to shephard us. With that said, I offer a public greeting and heartfealt thanks to all readers who are pastors and who suffer the whims and whinings of us your flock. It's no wonder so many have fled the pulpit. Thank you who have stayed true to the calling. Food for thought, Jeff |
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515 | Calvin or Armini | Bible general Archive 3 | jlhetrick | 186696 | ||
I agree with Steve that there is no "requirement" to study Calvin, Arminius or any other specific uninspired writings. With that said, let me add that there is plenty of "reason" to study them. God has given some as teachers (see 1Corinthians)-why? Eph 4:12-15. So if the point is to be made that being alone with the Scriptures is sufficient to fulfill God's purpose for the Church, then the point is far from being on target. God has given teachers for the reason set forth in Scripture. So to attempt to down-grade or in any way insinuate that there is no benefit from learning from them is simply contrary to God's plan for the Church as revealed in Scripture. And speaking to the question of motivation, know that none will be drawn into a debate on the doctrine of election here on the Forum. If it's the debate your interested in, simply study that between the Calvinist and Arminius points of view. There is far more there by minds greater than yours and mine that further illustrates there is no need for us to take it up again here. God bless, Jeff |
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516 | Can one who commits suicide be saved? | Ex 20:13 | jlhetrick | 186672 | ||
Hello Heir, The problem with your theology is that it requires a lot of assumption and a lot more in the way of disregarding plain scriptural teaching. Although I am personally convinced that it is impossible for you to support your argument with Scripture (which you haven't really even attempted to do)the call still must go out requesting that you do attempt to do so. Either that or refrain from teaching what the Scriptures do not teach. This is a forum dedicated to bible study, not opinion trumpeting. You might start with pointing to the place in Scripture where suicide is revealed to be the unpardonable sin. Nothing more really need be said on the matter until that single point is established. Perhapse it's better to let this thread simply rest, afterall, it originated over six years ago. Just a suggestion. God bless, Jeff |
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517 | Is lifestyle change proof of salvation? | Matt 7:21 | jlhetrick | 186589 | ||
Good point Steve :) Jeff |
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518 | ... | Bible general Archive 3 | jlhetrick | 186571 | ||
Freedom.., I'm sorry that you have had such tragic circumstances in your life. Unfortunately though, the STUDYBIBLEFORUM is not the place to confront those terrible issues as it is not, nor are the members, equipped to provide counseling here. Please limit your participation to the study of Scripture whether asking a question or answering one. It might be helpful to go back and read the Terms of Use and About the Forum. These will help guide you in what is and what is not appropriate to post. Most certainly it is not appropriate to post first and last names of individuals with accusation (true or not). This is absolutely not a gossip forum. There are legal issues to be considered not only for yourself, but also for Lockman which hosts this forum. God bless, Jeff |
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519 | Does God bless a christian in sin? | Bible general Archive 3 | jlhetrick | 186569 | ||
Prayer Warrior, Your first question requires a strong assumption. No one truly knows if another is saved though we might speculate strongly one way or the other. The Scriptures teach that if we are truly saved and sealed by the Spirit of God we will not intentionally, willfully go on sinning (Romans chapter 6 for example). Not sure what you mean by "partakers of the blessing" but if your referring to salvation I start with referring back to my first statement here. If I'm following you, I would say your third question should be answered NO. Before they can be "still partakers" they had to have first BEEN partakers. If you are referring to salvation, and then answer that yes, they are still partakers, then no, this argument wouldn't support that salvation results from works. On the other hand, if we were to argue that they were saved but are no longer saved as a result of their sins you described, that would be an argument that salvation is a result of works. The logic follows that if there is a work I can do to "undo" my salvation, there is a work I can do to "redo" my salvation. We don't find such a teaching anywhere in Scripture. (John 10:28-29 for example). Hope this helps, Jeff |
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520 | Was the here before, and was destroyed? | OT general | jlhetrick | 186566 | ||
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