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1081 | Using Love as Jesus | 2 Tim 2:15 | jlhetrick | 160563 | ||
Hello Mark, Not to play on words but I did not say that nightjays post was treated with disrespect. I said that it was not treated with respect. I believe that many post on this forum are not treated with the same loving attention and consideration as others. The trend seems to hold true for those post that are less articulate and where the poster may have obvious, limited knowledge of scripture. My opinion is that one can show little or no respect for something without necessarily being outright disrespectufl. Your are right that nightjay did not complain, but did you notice that he did not respond at all. Why? We can not speak for him, but might it be that he felt his question was not taken seriously or that he was made to feel his question was inappropriate or even stupid???? I did caution nightjay to "get used" to being treated this way because it is abasolutely true that this is a continuing issue on the forum. And yes, people can change, but I have not seen evidence of it here. As far as not naming names for Kalos I can only respond with a question of my own. In this same thread Doc wrote: "Someone will probably try to give you a simple, trite answer -- we have people who specialize in that here" Yet you nor Kalos asked Doc to name names nor did you attempt to call him on it or question him at all. Why? Finally, you asked, "who profits from my comments." Possibly no one. Possibly the person who feels like their limited knowledge of the bible does not mean that they are in the wrong place and can not be treated with respect and love on this forum. Am I wrong? Possibly. But I hope my efforts are not in vein. |
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1082 | Using Love as Jesus | 2 Tim 2:15 | jlhetrick | 160538 | ||
Hello Kalos, Why would I want to do that? |
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1083 | Using Love as Jesus | 2 Tim 2:15 | jlhetrick | 160519 | ||
Hello Nightjay, Sorry your post was not treated with respect, it's only your first month on the forum so get used to it. You asked for "some examples" and not a complete expository so, perhapse a simple, even trite answer may be what you are in need of. Examples that might be too often heard by some may be new to others and very helpful. Don't worry, you don't have to be a bible scholar to use the forum and benefit from it (although there are those types on the forum who believe differently). The best example of how Jesus would use His love for people today can be understood by what He has already done. He would die for us. We know that He would because we know that He did. He would heal the sick because He has compassion and though some will disagree, God still heals people. He would be mistreated and forgive His abuser without retaliation. He would respect others as created beings made in the image of God even when disagreeing with and redirecting their wrong position on issues. If you asked Him a question I don't believe He would consider it unworthy to be answered nor do I believe He would feel the need to offer a manuscript with deep theological articulations. Though it is speculation, it is possible to believe that He would answer you with kindness and love and as simply as He would know that you would need in order to understand. He might then point you to the bible and encourage you to study the issue for greater understanding. What would He say: He has already said it and it applies just as much today as ever. Read Matt. chapter 5 to get a good understanding of what Jesus has said to us and expects from us. Jesus, by His own example and words has already done and said all that He has in order to teach us what is most important and what many seem to be in most need of. Joh 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Hope this is helpful for "some examples". Jeff |
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1084 | Holiness | 1 Pet 1:15 | jlhetrick | 160271 | ||
Hello Ashlyn, I would recommend the bible as your first resource for what God expects from you. Particularly the teachings of Jesus himself found in the Gospels, MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE, JOHN. Also read Paul's letters which are very focused on Christian responsibility regarding life-style and behavior. Personally I love the book of Romans and never get enough of reading it. Jeff |
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1085 | An Exegete of Acts 2 | Acts 2:16 | jlhetrick | 159195 | ||
Hello WOS, Thaks for the post. I won't be long winded here because I wont allow this to turn into a situation of splitting by those who wish to make more of my comments than was intended or plainly stated. Let me just say this. A "battering" is a "battering", whether it's done intellectually or not. I agree that personal views are appropriate and helpful, it's the unsupported declaration of truth that I have a problem with. If you were to research my post (well for one you would be bored) you would see that I too have openly defended Doc when other's didn't agree with his post. But when I did so it was because he was right. He was right because scripture, taken appropriately in context, said he was right. lets let the personal opinions help in our study, lets not let it attempt to add to scripture what is not clearly there. Dangerous. Again, sincere thanks for your post. It is always helpful for me to read how others are reading into what I post. Sincerely, Jeff |
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1086 | An Exegete of Acts 2 | Acts 2:16 | jlhetrick | 159194 | ||
Hi Hank, Thanks for the post. Your point is most important and very supportive of my position (though I realize that was not your intentions). All who read the posts you refer to might have concluded with careful reading, I took and take this same position. I never debated yes or no on the issue of dreams, simply because I don't know. I simply challenged the unsupported declaration that God doesn't speak to us in dreams. Of course the challenge was never met and I am comfortable now that that fact alone will give the careful reader and student the wisdom not to accept everything any of us say as "the truth" unless we are able, and willing, to support it with scripture in context. Your post was very warm and insightful. Thanks again. Sincerely, JEff |
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1087 | An Exegete of Acts 2 | Acts 2:16 | jlhetrick | 159153 | ||
Hi Mark, I appreciate your position with Doc. I am not trying to criticize Doc for the sake of criticisim. I am offended as are others at the way he approaches this forum. As though he is the end all authority on scripture. He belittles others and disregards honest questions people have about his posts. His behavior should be unacceptable on the forum. There can be no honest and otherwise appropriate study and dialogue when one who claims such authority expects others to except it and refuses to address honest questions regarding his statements. We all struggle with pride but it is much more obvious in some. A perfect example is that he did not simply disagree with you as you say you do him. No, he simply refused to honestly debate the disagreement in order to do the best justice to the issue and those looking on. I may be wrong, I didn't check before responding now, but I don't think he even responded to your clear teaching which was, well, impossible to dispute as the word of God always is. Instead he jumped right in with the intentions (I'm sure) of minimizing my responses and "clouding" the issue by redirecting the topic. Really pay attention to his post and I believe it will be clear. Doc is my brother too. And many who read and follow the threads on this forum are our brothers and sisters as well. We can't allow any who might convince themselves that their understanding and conclusions are authoratative, to behave irresponsibly by disregarding the honest efforts of others. Nor should we allow them to declare truth that they are unable or unwilling to support with scripture. It doesn't work that way. Finally, I don't believe that I stated anywhere that Doc was trying to make his point "at any cost". What I do believe is that pride sometimes stands in the way of one ever excepting that he/she may be wrong or from excepting that he/she may not know. And it is possible to share a conclusin that you have come to honestly and honestly believe without attempting to be intellectually offensive. Doc has a lot of knowledge that can possibly be turned to wisdom. I have learned from many of his post. I have also been left very concerned by some too. Sincerely, Jeff |
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1088 | An Exegete of Acts 2 | Acts 2:16 | jlhetrick | 159065 | ||
Hi Kalos, Thanks for responding. I was attempting to get a better perspective on Doc's view of "last days" in order to better understand where he is coming from. But he doesn't respond directly to questions that challenge his point. Anyway, Mark d seyler did a fine job of putting the issue in this thread in biblical context by letting the bible speak for itself and not attempting to offer a self-declared authority over the topic at hand. Thanks again for the response. Sincerely, Jeff |
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1089 | An Exegete of Acts 2 | Acts 2:16 | jlhetrick | 159026 | ||
Hi Doc, Good luck in New Jersy, I hate to drive in that town. Have a safe trip. Thanks for your response but I believe you missed my point. Thanks for pointing out that there were only 78 minutes between our post. I think it was actually 78 minutes and 12 seconds. Anyway, my post did include that I have sat under the teaching of others as well as done my own study of this passage in times past, sorry you missed that. Still, the issue at hand has not been addressed. I am not asking nor expecting you to "do all the work for me". I was simply asking you to better represent your own work by giving supporting, contextual scripture. I am capable of doing the work to support my own views, opinions, and beliefs, but it's hardly fair for you to expect me to do the work to explain yours. Again, have a safe trip and try to get some enjoyment from your travel. Sincerely, Jeff |
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1090 | An Exegete of Acts 2 | Acts 2:16 | jlhetrick | 159013 | ||
Hello Doc, Your using Mark's rational now which is appropriate for understanding this passage. But you didn't attempt to answer my question. You write: "People make the dreams and visions the point of this passage." I argue that you attempt to disregard the issue of dreams and visions in this passage although God and Peter felt it important to include them. It's simply that I just don't follow your argument as rational and more importantly complete. In an earlier post you wrote: "Peter states clearly that this passage is fulfilled in Pentecost!". He certainly does not state it at all, much less clearly. Without going back to read at this time, I believe Mark has sufficiently made that point. But to restate it in short; Peter states very clearly that Act 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; (KJV) No mention of completed work or total fulfillment. As Mark correctly pointed out, Peter was addressing a specific question and/or accusation regarding a specific behavior (speaking in other languages). Peter, under God's direction, quotes the whole prophecy, why? Is it not reasonable to conclude that God's intention here was to not only explain what was being observed but to also reemphasize what is to come? Also, I realize this is a whole other topic, but just as a side note. Where does this day of pentacost fall in relation to the biblcal reference "the last days"? I will have another question based on your answer to this. Regarding the careful study of what Peter says after quoting Joel, I have considered it and studied it. Maybe I'm missing something but I get nothing that suggest to me that anything debated here has been completed in full. Sincerely, Jeff |
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1091 | An Exegete of Acts 2 | Acts 2:16 | jlhetrick | 159006 | ||
Hi Doc, I spent a lot of time with your post here. I have lots of questions but no time now to ask them. I would like to ask one though. You wrote: "If you want to talk about dreams and visions, don't do it with a passage like this. It just isn't there, folks." This confused me. Did you miss this "your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall DREAM DREAMS," (emphasis added) your young men shall see visions." or did you just over look it. If you missed it please consider editing your post for the help of others. If you overlooked it, why? This looks like the very place one might start if he/she wants to know and talk about what God has to say about dreams (as Mark has done). Sincerely, Jeff |
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1092 | An Exegete of Acts 2 | Acts 2:16 | jlhetrick | 159005 | ||
Hi Mark, Thanks for putting this issue into proper, contextual perspective. It's unfortunate that others will pick and choose (not to mention leave out) scripture in order to support their argument; and then send the less learned on a wild goose chase after something that's not there. That is not very good bible study (not to mention bad teaching methods). I have studied this passage in context and heared it taught on several times. I have never had it presented to me in the way that Doc did. I gave considerable time to his post and, like you, couldn't line it up with scripture. I'm not trying to degrade him I just don't understand why he continues to do this post after post. Your post on the other hand was very well laid out and supported with scripture in context. Thanks for that. It is a very dangerous thing to manipulate scripture to make it make your point, especially for those witnessing that are trying to learn. Thanks for taking the time to study and put things in their proper perspective. Jeff |
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1093 | Regarding earlier post (thread) 156868 | 2 Tim 2:25 | jlhetrick | 158336 | ||
Mark7, Your missing the point. It's not how I feel, nor is it some strange and unbiblical teaching that convinces me of my salvation and standing with God. It is the word of God and it's clear teachings that assure me of my position with God. You see, I have been baptized by the Holy Spirit as scripture clearly teaches. I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and believe that God has raised Him from the dead. I have accepted this work of Christ as atonement for my own sins because He offered it to me and I was hopeless without it. He then baptized me with the Holy Spirit, sealing me for the day of redemtion. I, like all Christians, have all there is to have of the Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not like an hour glass where you can manipulate Him through your good deeds and actions, or a fenzy of emotion causing Him to tilt you now and then giving you a little more and a little more of Himself. Hope this helps, Jefff |
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1094 | Regarding earlier post (thread) 156868 | 2 Tim 2:25 | jlhetrick | 158165 | ||
Hi Mark7, Thanks for the response, Yes I am a christian and I am a member of a bible believing and bible teaching church. You write: "The reason some are touchy about "experience" is not that it contradicts the Bible but that it contradicts their interpretaion of such key scriptures as Acts 2:4!" Your right, but it's also because they see others attempting to take personal experiences and assign them as from God when they are not. Some examples are "holy laughter" and "being slain in the Spirit." There simply is no biblical reference to support these silly notions. But there are whole congregations being carried away by these things on a regular basis. Jeff |
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1095 | Regarding earlier post (thread) 156868 | 2 Tim 2:25 | jlhetrick | 158164 | ||
Hi BrakK, Thanks for the response. I appreciate the 3 categories of people that you say participate in this and other forums and agree with you completely. I think it was humbledbygrace who posted not long ago that we should let the word of God speak for itself. No words we can offer can better defend the truth. The person posting about his/her dream appeared to me to be in serious error but to be in that situation innocently. In other words, he/she appeared to really believe that the dream and the “revealed” word had significance. Now belief is a powerful persuader especially if the believer is EAGER to believe in what he thinks might be true. It’s like believing in haunted houses. People want to believe that they are real. Another would be hard pressed to persuade him otherwise. However, the word of God presented lovingly and patiently in response to an apparent nonsensical question would have power to both rebuke and teach. We shouldn’t just tell people there wrong and state what Christianity says about it, we should provide the scripture to support our rebuke. With that said, I tend to believe that the need for a quick assessment of what category a poster falls in is less important. In time, someone with inappropriate motivations will be clearly seen for what he/she is and can be ignored or rebuked as appropriate. By jumping too quickly we may scare of a sincere searcher of the truth. By the way, you left out a 4th category of poster. He/she that wishes to demonstrate his/her knowledge and self-assigned superiority from a prideful heart; who never accepts redirection much less rebuke, and who will not respond honestly when they are called to account for their postings. BradK, you are by no means in this category so please don’t think I’m referring in any way to you. I often follow your post with interest and learn from you. Thanks. Also, your right. Experience is not the “gauge” of biblical christianity. But without it there would be no biblical christianity. The gauge is the word of God by which we test our experiences to know if we are in step with God or not. Again, thanks for the response. Jeff |
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1096 | Regarding earlier post (thread) 156868 | Not Specified | jlhetrick | 158123 | ||
I'm asking this question in regards to a different post by fwiaskycap regarding his dream. (refer to post 156868) I agree with everyone in relation to not assuming a dream is from God especially when the dream in question doesn’t point specifically to scripture. I also agree with any who pointed out the unloving and unfriendly rebukes that CAP received that bordered on abusive. But I have come to expect this on the forum from the high and mighties. I wonder if Cap had been sitting in your living room or Sunday school class and asked the same question if he/she would have received the same type of responses, humm. My question is. Do all of you believe that God doesn’t intend to include dreams as a means of speaking to Christians? And why is it that every time a person’s experience is mentioned there is a quick and sharp rebuke? Does God not use our experiences to mold and grow us? Because someone includes experience does not necessarily mean they are calling that experience equal to the word of God. If they do, then rebuke them, if they are not, then patiently coach them to understand the truth. Goodness. Jeff |
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1097 | Regarding earlier post (thread) 156868 | 2 Tim 2:25 | jlhetrick | 158128 | ||
I'm asking this question in regards to a different post by fwiaskycap regarding his dream. (refer to post 156868) I agree with everyone in relation to not assuming a dream is from God especially when the dream in question doesn’t point specifically to scripture. I also agree with any who pointed out the unloving and unfriendly rebukes that CAP received that bordered on abusive. But I have come to expect this on the forum from the high and mighties. I wonder if Cap had been sitting in your living room or Sunday school class and asked the same question if he/she would have received the same type of responses, humm. My question is. Do all of you believe that God doesn’t intend to include dreams as a means of speaking to Christians? And why is it that every time a person’s experience is mentioned there is a quick and sharp rebuke? Does God not use our experiences to mold and grow us? Because someone includes experience does not necessarily mean they are calling that experience equal to the word of God. If they do, then rebuke them, if they are not, then patiently coach them to understand the truth. Goodness. Jeff |
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1098 | Looking for bible story | Bible general Archive 3 | jlhetrick | 157879 | ||
Hi hnaKC, You may be thinking about the story found in Exodus 32 beginning in verse 1. Verse 26 might be what you have read or heard spoken of. While there is no mention of an actual line being drawn in the sand, there is certainly two sides, one with Moses and one not. Hope this helps, Jeff |
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1099 | Number 216 | Bible general Archive 3 | jlhetrick | 157877 | ||
Hi Doc, I thought so. The difficult questions are, well, difficult. But we will have to just be satisfied to let the response speak for itself. Jeff |
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1100 | Number 216 | Bible general Archive 3 | jlhetrick | 157855 | ||
Hi Searcher56, Yes I know this. But thanks for responding. My statement regarding numerology was a statement rather than a question. The point of my post was to address the inconsitency with the rules and expectations on the forum. I didn't expect a honest and humble response from the one I addressed. But the frequent rebuking and/or redirecting others who might not appear to be asking a question to his liking or criteria, so obviously contradicted in the same thread, required attention. Jeff |
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