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101 | Intermarriage | Ezra 9:2 | ischus | 115578 | ||
No. I think he would mind if the Christian left God for a cult though. | ||||||
102 | Intermarriage | Ezra 9:2 | ischus | 115581 | ||
I am not sure what you are getting at here, but I will humor you in this. 1)First of all, if it was my son engaged to the cult girl, I would ask him his intentions and reasons for doing this. If they were valid and his faith was strong in the Lord, I would support him in his decision and ask him to continually bring his wife over to my house to spend time with all of us. I think this is what God would do as well. How many verses are there in the bible about being faithful to the Lord? Those are the verses I would give him, along with all of the ones about being God's light and presence to all peoples, showing them to way to Him. 2) The bible is full of verses about leaving God for another god, and many have been posted in this thread if you go back and look. 3) When someone leaves God, God is sad, hurt, and angry. God tries his best to call all of his lost sheep back to him. Isn't that what he did with us? If someone deliberately rejects God, the consequences are a broken relationship, and ultimately complete separation for eternity if there is no reconciliation. ischus |
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103 | Intermarriage | Ezra 9:2 | ischus | 115675 | ||
It is kind of hard to explain... I just sort of go through some mental exercises, and then everything is just clear to me. | ||||||
104 | Intermarriage | Ezra 9:2 | ischus | 115678 | ||
EdB, Thank you for your comments. I am sorry that we can't agree on this; I have already asked to move on and make peace here, but if you want to bring up a new subject of inspiration of the bible, then I will gladly discuss it. I think that you are taking this stuff way too personal, man. You gotta chill a little and not get so worked up about this. I am not asking you to change... why are you so upset about this? IF you want to know exactly what I believe, here it is: I believe that the bible is the word of God. I do not believe in verb./plen inspiration. I do believe in the humanity and divinity of Jesus. I do not believe in the inerrancy of the bible. I do believe in approaching the bible honestly, I do not believe in the Jesus project or demythologizing of the text. I do not believe that I have anything close to a heretical view. I do believe that the original autographs of the bible were verb./plen./inerr/ inspired. I am not asking you to agree with me. I just don't want to give you any more surprises and be labeled as a heretic. If you ever happen to have the desire to investigate instead of discard my views, I would be happy to give you some additional information. However, since you don't really seem to find any logical conclusions in my beliefs, it might not be worth the effort. Take care, brother- ischus |
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105 | Intermarriage | Ezra 9:2 | ischus | 115679 | ||
Colin, This information is only for the elite. You will have to go through some training and pass a couple of exams before you are able to have access to this knowledge. I am sorry, but you will have to investigate for yourself. ischus |
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106 | Intermarriage | Ezra 9:2 | ischus | 115682 | ||
Sounds good. Everything is good on my side, I ask for your forgiveness again for any harshness. Thanks for ending this with me. I appreciate your willingness to put this down- some are not so quick to do this, as I am sure you have witnessed. Anyway, its great to be yout friend, and I am sure that we will agree more often than not. We just got off to a bad start from what I can tell. God Bless. :) ischus |
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107 | How is the Bible the Word of God? | Ezra 9:2 | ischus | 115712 | ||
Tim, First of all, as you know,there are not only two choices as far as inspriration goes; verb. plen. or not at all. I believe that the bible is God's word, in that it contains spritual truths, as well as historical facts, which lead us to faith in God. I do not believe that the words of the bible were given orally or verbally or that they were dictated to the writers. I think that it is very much a human work, but that it is all God's will. This is especially true for the original autographs. I think there is sufficient evidence to make valid conclusions that what we read today is basically what was written back then... but there are variants, additions, changes, etc. As someone has already said, these do not effect the theology or other doctrines of the bible, but they are there nonetheless. Verbal inspriration is just not logical when you seriously look at how the bible was put together. There is no doubt in my mind that God was completely involved... I just don't think that he gave the words or thoughts to the writers orally or internally in every case. Now, there are many many places in the bible where a word of the Lord comes to a prophet,etc. There are also many places where the words do not find their origin in God. Much of the Old Testament that we have today is the result of thousands of years of copyists and editors. Even the NT has gone through many changes, but this is beside the point. I think that what we have is very close to what was originally written. Now, inspiration is simply beyond human comprehension, and when we try to explain it, we fail. But, I think that some of the best insights into how the bible was written and inspired can be seen in Jeremiah and Luke. I can't see how you can reconcile their means of obtaining the material that they wrote with verbal inspiration. Plenary is another issue. I can not truly say that what we have is all from God. You know the verses that should not be there, and to say that the whole work of the bible should be called His word is simply not true. However. I do beilieve in the plenary inspiration of the original autographs. ischus |
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108 | How is the Bible the Word of God? | Ezra 9:2 | ischus | 115713 | ||
Tim, First of all, as you know,there are not only two choices as far as inspriration goes; verb. plen. or not at all. I believe that the bible is God's word, in that it contains spritual truths, as well as historical facts, which lead us to faith in God. I do not believe that the words of the bible were given orally or verbally or that they were dictated to the writers. I think that it is very much a human work, but that it is all God's will. This is especially true for the original autographs. I think there is sufficient evidence to make valid conclusions that what we read today is basically what was written back then... but there are variants, additions, changes, etc. As someone has already said, these do not effect the theology or other doctrines of the bible, but they are there nonetheless. Verbal inspriration is just not logical when you seriously look at how the bible was put together. There is no doubt in my mind that God was completely involved... I just don't think that he gave the words or thoughts to the writers orally or internally in every case. Now, there are many many places in the bible where a word of the Lord comes to a prophet,etc. There are also many places where the words do not find their origin in God. Much of the Old Testament that we have today is the result of thousands of years of copyists and editors. Even the NT has gone through many changes, but this is beside the point. I think that what we have is very close to what was originally written. Now, inspiration is simply beyond human comprehension, and when we try to explain it, we fail. But, I think that some of the best insights into how the bible was written and inspired can be seen in Jeremiah and Luke. I can't see how you can reconcile their means of obtaining the material that they wrote with verbal inspiration. Plenary is another issue. I can not truly say that what we have is all from God. You know the verses that should not be there, and to say that the whole work of the bible should be called His word is simply not true. However. I do beilieve in the plenary inspiration of the original autographs. ischus |
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109 | How is the Bible the Word of God? | Ezra 9:2 | ischus | 115733 | ||
Tim, I know that there is much logic in verbal plenary, but I do not think it matches up to what we currently have as a text. The reason that textual criticism is a part of exegesis is because, although God is involved, he can not compromise our free will (I really hope you believe in free will, or else you are really going to have a problem with my theory). Man is involved in the copying, and translation process- God chose this method. He is fine with a couple errors in the text. He could have given the bible to us all written out like he did to Joseph Smith (just kidding), but the fact is that he didn't. He wanted to use humans, and all that this would entail, including mistakes. I know that you are aware of the problems in the bible...so I think this should make some sense. I have to apologize for any wierdness and inconsistency today- I am very ill and it is all I can do to type these messages. |
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110 | How is the Bible the Word of God? | Ezra 9:2 | ischus | 115734 | ||
Hank, Just so you know, I interperted your last post as somewhat sarcastic. I apologize if this is not so, but on the assumption that it was, let me say that I will take complete blame for how old I am. I know this is not your fault- it is totally mine. Howver, I have read the same bible as you have. I am old enough to read and write and think. I know that I am just a little kid to you, but I think that there were some who saw Timothy in this way as well. Now to the point: Theo- "God" pneustos- "spirit, breathe" I find it interesting that you have arrived at the exact definition of this word. Could you please explain it to me? I surely don't know what it means, and I think that if someone says that they do, they are kidding themself... but I am curious as to your definition. By the way, I have never denied the inspiration of the bible or God's part in it at any time on any post in this forum on purpose. If I have given that impression, I recant. What I am saying is that I do not go along with a verbal, plenary view of inspiration, and I don't see how we can use 2 Tim to support it. Let me just say that My instructors have taught me that the bible is the verbal, plenary, inerrant, inspired word of God. I know the full argument entirely. There is no need to present it to me. ischus |
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111 | How is the Bible the Word of God? | Ezra 9:2 | ischus | 115743 | ||
Tim, TDNT is good, but You can't define a word by it's etymology. I know the concept is God working with man, and I agree with it. The only thing that we differ in is how much God, and how much man. I don't mean to cut this short, but I am about 81 percent dead right now so I need to retire. I look forward to continuing this tomor... |
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112 | Intermarriage | Ezra 9:2 | ischus | 115798 | ||
Steve, hello! I am perfectly fine with your interpretation. Many people agree with you. When you mentioned 1 Cor. 7, I think that this passage is actually in support of my interpretation of Ezra, as betrays your view. Paul never tells the Christians that it is alright to divorce, and he actually says that the believer sanctifies the unbeliever. Read verses 12-14... not just verse 15. ischus |
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113 | Intermarriage | Ezra 9:2 | ischus | 115802 | ||
Exactly- How does this support your view? The UNBELIEVER can leave... the BELIEVER should not initiate separation. PLUS, where do you get your support for the Gentiles in Ezra to be unbelievers who are trying to take their new spouses away from Yahweh? ischus |
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114 | Intermarriage | Ezra 9:2 | ischus | 115812 | ||
Steve, I think that neither of us can see the others point to be very convincing. I think that the people were heavily influenced by Ezra's behavior, and they felt guily only after his prayer and other comments. They saw nothing wrong with what they were doing. They just came out of captivity, they knew what was right and wrong, Ezra over-reacted in an attempt to honor God, the people felt bad that they made Ezra upset, so they broke up their families and did what Ezra told them to. Keep in mind that God never said anything in this situation- Ezra and others only used previous scripture to support their actions. Think about this: What does God value more- heart or actions? I know that you can use this to support your view as well, but I truly think that God knew their hearts, and that he wanted them to live with the Gentiles, not just use them or cast them out of the city. ischus |
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115 | How is the Bible the Word of God? | Ezra 9:2 | ischus | 115870 | ||
Tim- I agree totally with all of this. my case is strickly for our english bible today, certainly not for the original autographs! I do take 2 Peter to be referring to "prophesy" and not "all scripture"(as in Tim.) I know the definition of prophesy and I know that it is not just "prediction and foretelling," but I take this to be the "thus says the Lord" comments of scripture. clearly there are many scriptures that were the interpretation or commentary of men about a particular situation, especially in the OT. ischus |
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116 | what is the traditional view of esther | Esther | ischus | 115150 | ||
GP- As searcher mentioned, the author of Esther is unknown. However, some evidence can be used to narrow it down to the time of authorship. Esther contains many Persian-loaded words, and the author shows a great deal of accurate knowledge of Persian palaces and customs. The Hebrew is Esther is more similar to that of Chronicles than any other book in the OT. Therefore, the book can most likely be dated around 400-350 BC, during the Persian empire, which also lends itself to the possiblility of the author of Esther being the same original author(s) of Ezra-Nehemiah (which is a different issue). Hope this Helps! ischus |
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117 | "and on their heart I will write it" | Matt 5:17 | ischus | 115318 | ||
For instance, look at the story of the Exodus. God's people were faithless and polytheistic in Egypt, yet God delivered them, by His Grace, out of Egypt, through the water, and away from their slave masters. This salvation was completely by God's Grace, with no strings attached. THEN, 50 days later (or about that), He asked the people to come into a covenant relationship with him. He desrcibed what kind of relationship he was looking for (the Law), and THE PEOPLE AGREED TO FOLLOW THIS, and ratified this covenant with God. The Law was not given TO save, it was given BECAUSE they were saved by His Grace! ischus |
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118 | Difference between called and chosen? | Matt 22:14 | ischus | 115212 | ||
Edd, The difference here is one of the heart. Whereas God "calls" everyone to himself, the people must also respond to and live in the proper way, which makes them "chosen." 1 Pet.2:9 sets forth this same principle: the people were called out of darkness by God, and now that they have responded they are chosen people. Col. 3:12-14 illustrates the principle of "chosenness" further, as Paul describes the may in which a chosen one lives in relation to others. God Bless! ischus |
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119 | What is Love?? | Matt 22:37 | ischus | 115880 | ||
have you read 1 Corinthians 13? this is love. | ||||||
120 | What is Love?? | Matt 22:37 | ischus | 115915 | ||
The best way to teach is to show... Demonstrate and Educate. | ||||||
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