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881 | Woman's sin worse than man's? | Eph 5:33 | gracefull | 65490 | ||
Rabbi: I believe you are saying that rebellion against God's delegated authority brings worse consequences than those of a poor authoritarian? Am I correct in my understanding of what you are saying? |
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882 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65477 | ||
Ed, Hank... If Hank H's statement "E.W Kenyon majored in metaphysics." is not true, as I believe Hank stated in an earlier post.. Why would you not be bothered that he so comfortably accused (defamed) a fellow human being without ANY substantiating proof? Hank, even you who do not claim to called to expose heresy knows this is not true... This does not upset your confidence in his motives? Do you not realize motive is critical in interpretaion? Your sister in the Lord |
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883 | Where was Jesus for 3 days after death? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65474 | ||
Roger Wilco... Wow! What a relief to get back on the subject of this thread. You have asked a very insiteful question that I am surprised was not asked originally. Why is it important? I have to leave the forum today but will try to post some tomorrow. There are quite a few other scriptures that make an argument for Jesus paying the full penalty of sin (spiritual death)for us. Although some do not accept this idea I believe it is important for believers to at least look at the scripture and allow the Holy Spirit to direct them to truth as He promised He would. If we see the full price Jesus paid and the Holy Spirit burns this truth into our Spirit our relationship with Him will change. We can no longer take sin lightly, we can no longer consider soul winning an option, our love will be increased dramatically. Besides, if it is truth God wants us to know and fear and tradition should not keep us from searching for truth. Since I can't stay look at Psalm 188. I believe it is very descriptive of the anguish of a sinner seperated from God for eternity. I believe this could easily be describing the eternal punishment the sinner can expect. I also believe it can be the expression of a believer who has known God's presence and has now fallen into sin and is being chastised.(having the SENSE of eternal seperation) Please comment on your impression of this Psalm. |
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884 | In Gen 1.26, God refers to us and our.. | Gen 1:26 | gracefull | 65393 | ||
God the Father, God the Word-Jesus John 1:1 God the Holy Spirit Genesis 1:2 the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. They are all there and they are all busy! |
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885 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65390 | ||
Hi Tim: The availability of knowledge of God's will is what is in question, not the fact that as humans at different levels of growth and relationship will sometimes not hear. But if we are taught to believe the knowledge of His will is not available we will not even try to find out. This I believe is both tragic and sad. Our Father's provision is so great and the price was so high. In James 4:16 James says 'Now you rejoice in your boasting: all such rejoicing is evil. Therefor to him that knoweth to do good and doeth it not, to him it is sin. I believe James is speaking to folks who are not asking God for his will based on verse 17. John 5:14 This is probably one of my favorite verses and one that keeps me aware of the need to stay in communication with God through the Holy Spirit. Here again we are agreeing with God and believing, not asking God to agree with ur OR asking praying a shotgun prayer hoping something will hit. We must not forget we have an enemy and if our faith is not focused on the Word of promise we are vulnerable to the attack of doubt which robs us of our faith. The Word produces faith, Understanding God's will gives us boldness to stand in the time of trouble or temptation. This issue is so important because if believers only understood how urgent it is to seek God's revelation of His truth we would not wait until we are attacked to try to find out! Just like He told Paul he would go to Rome and suffer. Paul knew what was ahead and chose (bound by love) to go. 1 Cor. 4:19 Paul did not have long range knowledge of God's plan and will but when he did move he knew it was God's will. We may not always know in advance. Our walk is a daily faith walk.. Sufficient to the day are the troubles thereof. It is a growth walk. God is drawing us, training us, and just as we see the progression of faith from Adam to Abraham to David To Jesus, so is our walk. God does not send us to Goliath before we face the lion and bear at home... Blessings! |
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886 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65374 | ||
Hank: The Lords prayer was, Our Father, who art in heaven hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done... Where is the statement "If it be thy will?" In the garden did our Lord asking what the will of God was? Was there ever a time that He did not know God's will? Or was he asking "Is there another way?" I do not see here where there is uncertainty about what God's will in either of these scriptures. " If it is unnecessary for mortal man to pray thy will be done... This should now be clear, Our right ot choose God's will and plan for our lives. God made provision, but we have to choose to accept (agree with His Word) to receive it. This IS why we would pray Thy will be done...Not "If it be thy will". And we will face our own crises of life "gethsemene" when His will revealed is hard to take and we may ask,"God, is there another way, nevertheless..." but when we pray this prayer we will surely already know where God wants us to go. What do you think Jesus meant? "Show me a scripture, even a hint where mortal man can tell a sovereign God to do anything agains His will." This is an assumption on your part, and by no means a statement I made. The New Testament covenant IS God's will for our lives. His promises are freely given and He is not going to 'snatch them back on a whim'. Do not insert your own preconceived conclusions as if they are mine. This is wrong and you should know that. Pray without ceasing... My understanding is that Prayer is communication with God. Agreed? Jesus died for, and the Holy Spirit came to restore that severed relationship. Prayer is talking to and listening to God. Remember the Holy Spirit came to 'show us all things". God is not keeping His will a secret. It just takes lots of prayer (see above) and lots of meditation of His Word. 1 Corinthians 2:10-12 But God hath revealed them (mysteries) unto us by His Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God: that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. |
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887 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65361 | ||
What did God say to Abraham? Hebrews 6:1-14 For when God made a promise to Abraham. because He could swear by no greater, He swore by Himself, saying... John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word. The Word was with God and the Word was God. The Word became flesh and dwelt among men... God does what He pleases...See Ephesians 1:4-6 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestined us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ himself, according to the GOOD PLEASURE OF HIS WILL, to the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us ACCEPTED in the beloved, God did do what He pleased. It pleased Him to redeem us by His son and give us great and precious promise..Which we receive by faith... 1.Are you saying that God in His sovereignty has not obligated Himself to honour His Word? If He is obligated to keep His word are we still to aproach Him doubting His integrity. "God, I know you said this but I don't presume to expect you to keep you word unless you really want to." Where would that leave all who have believed and received by faith the promise of our eternal destiny? Please explain how you believe the believer (or sinner) should approach God's Word? If I don not believe God's word it will not profit me through salvation or deliverance or any of the other promises. I did not Say His word was not true if I did not believe it, but His promises (His provision through Christ) is only available to one who believes and receives by faith. For everyone else there is only the assurance of eternal damnation. I have Never said God is not sovereign, but If you believe He can act in contradition to His word I submit that you do not know Him very well. "God is not a man that He should lie." He gave us His Word so we could know His will and so we could walk in it's straight path with confidence. If He is not obligated to keep His WORD then what confidence would we have in any of His promises. He did this by His SOVEREIGN Choice. God has never and will never break His covenant. " God said it, I believe it, that settles it". The boldness I have comes from the faith I have in Jesus blood as my sin offering. God gave His word, I choose to believe His word, that settles the matter for me. Hebrews 4:16 Come blodly to the throne of grace fo find mercy and grace in the time of need. You asked..where I got my belief concerning receiving God's already provided provision by faith.. 2Peter 1:3-4 According as His divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue, whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. ?? What did Christ NOT provide through the atonement and ressurection?( a scriptural answer here please, rather than a snide inuendo) Hebrews 10:18-20 We have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus. Ed, I will ask you nicely to stop jumping to conclusions based on your preconceived ideas of what I believe. You are taking my statements and inserting false assumptions about what I mean. I mean what I say and there is no hidden agenda. I am trying to communicate with you, but communication is not possible with you always approaching everything I say with this assumed conclusion. At the beginning of this thread I stated my faith in Jesus Christ but you continue to respond to my post as an enemy. I hope you lay down this ofensive stance. In Christ Jesus |
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888 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65340 | ||
Steve, you are absolutely correct. May I quote from a WOF teacher on this, not to glorfy the teaching, but to demonstrate that the accusation that WOF teachers all disregard the Word for self desires. John 15:7-8 " If you abide in me and My Words abide in you, YOU shall ask what YOU will and it shall be done unto you. Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit: and so shall you be my diiples." " It is not only committing the Word to memory, which is valuable, but it is letting that Word become an integral part of our beings. It lives in us." I believe when we receive the Word as alive and transforming(which it is) we begin to recognize the will of God more and more and follow our flesh and soulish tendencies less and less. In Jesus, |
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889 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65304 | ||
eD. Direct me to 'objective' proof. School records, a paper he wrote for school... something. But you still have not responded to the fact that he and most other WOF teachers do not teach, OUR thoughts produce the results WE want. They teach the Word of God becoming my thoughts mixed with faith produces the result. Metaphysics teaches the power comes from our mind and there is no God. You can't see the difference? All have sinned and come short of God's glory. " I receive that, I am a sinner". If you repent God is faithul and just to forgive us. "I believe that and I repent" For God so loved the world He gave His only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life. "I reeive that, I now have eternal life". That is God's way in all His promises. God said it I believe it, that settles it. (God is now obligated) |
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890 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65281 | ||
The word tempt means put God to a test. We are not to test God, we are to believe Him. Faith teachers teach to hold fast to the promise of God despite the circumstances. The teaching that we should 'always pray if it by thy will' is unscriptural. Often times prayer is not needed, but faith in His already given provision is needed. Did we pray "God save me if it be thy will" or did we pray Father forgive ma a sinner and save me. Thank you Father". Is that a demand? Is it a demand to say 'thank you Father for the salvation of my children according to your promise..' or do we pray instead " Father save my children if it be thy will?" People, we have an enemy named Satan and he is the on we tell to leave, he is the one we order out. Did not Jesus say "you go in my name (authority) and cast out the devil...etc? Did He say ask God to tell the devil to leave if it was His will? The issue her is not Faith teachers or metaphysics. it is that WE DO NOT REALIZE WHAT CHRIST DID ON THE CROSS!!!!!WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND OUR PROVISION FROM GOD THROUGH CHRIST JESUS OUR LORD!! God help us realize Jesus did not die to just provide us an eternal home in heaven after we die but He died to set us free from the powers of darkness HERE!!!! In Jesus Name |
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891 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65279 | ||
Yes but the punishment for the sinner is eternal damnation and seperation from God, not mere physical death. The point here is that if Jesus was paying our penalty likewise it could have not been mere physical death. | ||||||
892 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65278 | ||
Pastor Glenn The Bible does teach us that the Holy Spirit is our teacher and the revealer of the Word of God. You know what I think is really in question here? I wonder who on this thread believes the Holy Spirit speaks to us? Also I think christians have difficulty understanding the term covenant. A covenant is a bond between two, me and God. In this covenant (His word) He has made certain committments or promises. And with every promise is a requirement, believe and receive by faith. That is the nutshell of the faith teachers teaching that I have studied. Do you see a problem with that? My problem on this thread is getting anyone to actually discuss the teachings in light of scripture without the accusations. Kenneth Copeland has never in all my 100 teaching tapes said we are to think what we want and our mind will make it happen. He teaches believe the word of God and act by faith and God has obligated Himself through Jesus to do it. He did not obligate Himself because He had to, He obligated Himself so we would believe, Him and trust Him. This goes blatantly against the grain of the teaching that believes God does whatever He wants regardless of the Word. God made a committment to mankind but He only does His part when we do ours. Is that not true of salvation? Healing? Did you check out some of the apologetics on the website I recomended. The creater of this site tries to take a look at the faith teachings objectively without the fear and accusations, and mainly without taking the teachers statements out of context. We are all human and will not always agree, but as long as we remain teachable we can grow. As I stated before, I rely on the promise that the Holy Spirit will reveal truth and error to me as long as my heart stays focused on knowing God. When pride or fear, or a critical spirit are allowed, our objectivity becomes blinded, and we cease to grow. I want all there is for me from God because I want to be what He wants me to be....God bless |
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893 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65269 | ||
Hi John.. I like talking with you because although you do not believe the same (who does exactly) because you rely on scripture. Jesus had also just said " My God, My God why have you forsaken me". The sins of the world were taken upon him and God the Father turned away because He cannot look upon sin. It is finished was said before he died not after which is where you believe the atonement took place. I believe it is finished was the completion fo the process of sin upon him. Then he died. You did not anser my question (What is the penalty of the sinner..physical death or eternal punishment?) Actually, I find that Ed, Hank and justme all expect me to decide they are correct based on Hank H's book which so far has given no scripture to refute the teaching of faith. But I will read on.... Did you read the Apologetic I suggested? If not, why? Your sister in Christ |
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894 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65265 | ||
Pastor Glenn... The faith teachers I have listened to hold the Word of God probably in higher esteem tham most 'orthodox' faiths. They teach that God's word is God's covenant and that the faith in God's Word produces the manifestation of the promise. They view God's word as reverently as God Himself because it is God Himself in covenant. They view the covenant (New Testament) as God's covenant with man and that God obligated Himself to fulfill His promises to us if we accept them by faith. For some reason (misquotes is all I have seen so far) there is an accusation that they teach the mind over matter concept or the New Thought which Hank H. quoted in his books as me believing my thought create. But Kenneth Copeland and E.W.Kenyon teach that we are to replace our thoughts with God's word which is God's thougts. (being transormed by the renewed mind). I truly can't understand why there is so much resistence to such a simple truth. We received salvation the same way. Heard God's word, believed, God's word, obeyed God's word. Any questions? God bless. |
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895 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65264 | ||
Sorry.. Hank said he 'Majored' in metaphysics but several papers (one very critical) said he majored in theatre, and that ther is no indication that he even took a class on metaphysics, much less majoring in it. P.S. I am doing no more here than defending a professing brother who is being accused without proof..I would do the same for anyone else. It is not in my nature to regard mankind as anything but sad little humans a great God loves and shows mercy. No teacher or preacher is high on my list. But I do study....listen... and observe.... |
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896 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65262 | ||
This is what Hank says and some of his other opponents but it is my understanding that he attended Emmerson University 1 year and MAJORED (to use Hank's term) in theater. He was backsliden and not involved in religious studies at Emerson. Now if you have proof such as school records to prove this accusation they should be produced, otherwise you are judging based on hearsay. My next question is "Have you studied his work?" His own statements of faith and teachings about the integrity of the Word of God refute this. Yours in Christ Jesus |
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897 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65261 | ||
I keep hearing about this book. I read several chapters last night accusing the teaching and doctrine, mainly of Kenneth Copeland, but not the first scripture to refute the scripture laden teaching. Does't anyone find this at all alarming? As I read the chapters numerous scripture came to my mind and I had my Bible and my concordance (Strong's) and not once did Hank give me a scripture to refute the one's I had confirming the teaching. Why are people so willing to accept hearsay and accusations without researching the teachings? Do we christians pass judgement on our brothers and sisters so easily because we feel our 'theology' is threatened? I reiterate, The Pharasees did the same thing to Jesus! Where is the Berean spirit. All I have received here is warnings and incinuations about how dangerous a doctrine it is. My brothers and sisters...what teaching is so dangerous and where is your SCRIPTURAL PROOF! I love God's word and believe they are the words of life for me to live by. Yours in Christ P.S. The accusation that E.W. Kenyon Mastered in the study of metaphysics, What Hank SAID cannot be proved. Hank expects his readers to accept this accusation based on the fact that Emerson University taught metaphysics. The only guilt E.W. has here is by association. E.W.'s own words teachings refute this but you would rather believ what is said about him as opposed to what he said. It is said he majored in theatre and there is no record that he even took a metaphysics class at Emerson at all. Does anyone here know where to find his 'RECORDS'? |
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898 | who received the Holy Ghost @Pentacost? | Acts 2:4 | gracefull | 65257 | ||
There were 120 in the upper room (vs 15) tarrying in prayer..they cast lots for the 12th apostle. There is no indication that they were not there on the day of Pentecost. All were filled. If they had left and only the 12 were left God would have had that clarified somewhere else in scripture, don't you think? In Jesus Christ, |
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899 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65171 | ||
As Hank did so do you. When Kenneth Copeland said Satan defeated Jesus on the cross, he said that by the standards of men Satan defeated Jesus on the cross. He went on to say that by all of mans standards, God could be considered a loser. If you listen to the rest of the serman you would find out the point he was making was that God was in control from the fall of Adam, to backsliden Israel, through all the 'failures' of the kings, to Jesus 'defeat' on Calvary. All to climax at the resurrection where Satan was defeated and the keys of the kingdom were given to the church..And when things may appear to be wrong in our lives, things going wrong the circumstances are not necessarily an indication of failure. That kind of changes the 'Quote' taken out of context does it not? Kenneth Hagen was preaching on the righteousness of God which is by faith. The same righteous standing Adam had before the fall whe God came down and walked with Adam in the Garden... Is that incorrect? Does Romans teach that we are the righteousness of God through Jesus? Does not Hebrews 4:16 tell us to come boldly to the throne of Grace to find mercy and help in the time of need.? Boldly or fearfully and timidly? The reason It is so hard to truly discuss word of faith teachings is because people want to use these 'out of context' quotes. Now if any of you will get a word of faith Bible study and use that to challenge and discuss I AM ALL FOR IT. Maybe a couple of you would get E.W. Kenyons study and let's go through IT tgether. Then we may get somewhere. Then we could compare apples for apples instead of trying to convince by someone else's misquotes. What do you all say? God bless. P.S. I know all of you are sincere. So am I. |
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900 | Did Jesus suffer in hell when he died? | Luke 23:46 | gracefull | 65088 | ||
Justme: Idid read part of the book. I stopped as soon as I found several quotes taken out of context and theatrically dramatized to add emphasis to his point. I personally found the book insulting to the inteligence of the reader. Let me do some research and I will reccomend another book that refutes Mr. Hannegraff's accusations. My question to you is have you actually researched the statements in their proper text? Most people do not because it would be far to time consuming. They take his accusations as fact and do not objectively and fearlesly research the statements. As you know, many times scripture is treated the same way. A scripture taken out of context can be interpreted incorrectly. These teachers/preachers are not perfect any more than you or I, but if their basic doctrines are correct they should not be labeled heretics. Remember the Pharasees did the same to Jesus. This should serve as a warning to us that we too can be wrong. |
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