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Results from: Answered Bible Questions, Answers, Unanswered Bible Questions, Notes Author: bjanko Ordered by Verse |
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41 | Predetermined or Free Will | Luke 8:13 | bjanko | 459 | ||
You wrote: '2: God has predetermined that his plan of salvation will be carried out. This does not mean that he has predetermined who will and will not be saved.' My reply: That simply does not make any sense. How can the predetermined will of an all-powerful God NOT come to pass? You wrote: 'God wants everyone to be saved (If you need several versus to back this up, let me know). He provided the means for that to happen through the death and ressurection of Jesus. It is our choice whether to accept his Gift or not.' My reply: Eph. 2:1-2 "And you were dead in your trespasses and sins" How do the spiritually dead choose anything? When's the last time you have seen a corpse make a choice o do anything else for that matter? John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him." This is pretty explicit. Sure God desires that all be saved, but He did not PROVIDE so that all will be saved. Since all will not be saved, then if you say that God PROVIDED atonement for all, then you are saying that the atonement which God has provided has FAILED. But a failing God is NOT the God of the Bible! It makes more sense to understand that, while God desires all will be saved, He only PROVIDED atonement FOR HIS PEOPLE whom He has elected from eternity past. As for the numerous verses you quoted: it is not proper to pick and choose numerous verses which support your view while ignoring all the verses which do not support your view. You seem to be ignoring all the verses which speak of election and God's will from before eternity and the fact that God is the ONLY acting party in the regeneration of the soul. What about the verses I have quoted? You simply say things like, "but that doesn't necessarily mean thus and such".... but your responses are really no answer; you are begging the question. My answer to all your verses is that we certainly do choose God: AFTER He has regenerated us and given us the gift of salvation. But as the Bible explicitly and clearly says, we are DEAD in our trespasses and sins and NO ONE comes to Jesus UNLESS the Father draws him. |
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42 | Predetermined or Free Will | Luke 8:13 | bjanko | 460 | ||
You wrote: '3: To renounce your salvation would be to turn your back on God, to no longer believe or accept his Gift. To no longer follow the teachings of Christ. Granted, you could always say that person wasn't really saved then. But then what would you say would have happened to that person if they died prior to that drastic change?' My reply: Since they were never saved to begin with, then they would have gone to hell. You wrote: 'And if you say that the person must not have been chosen by God to be saved and was only fooling themselves when they truely believed in Christ and thought they were saved -- ' Me: That's not what I'm saying; that's what the Bible says. You cont'd: ' -- then can you say for sure that anyone is saved?' My reply: No. Of course not. How can I tell if you are saved or if someone else is saved? Am I God? It would be quite presumptuous for anyone to claim he could tell if someone is saved or not, don't you think? You wrote: 'Did Jesus die for everyone or just for a select few?' My reply: He obviously died for only a select few. In Romans 9, Paul calls them "the elect." If God HAD died for everybody, then everybody would be saved. Do you really think that people whom God has decided to save can resist His will? Do you put mere man on the same level as God? You wrote: 'I can show you several versus that show that He died for all, can you show one that says otherwise?' My reply: Although I have shown you several, you do not seem interested in what they say. Again, a mere smattering a verses (not versus) means nothing if you do not take the whole of Scripture into account in interpreting them. You wrote: 'Then if Jesus did die for all, how could there be some that God predetermined not to be save?' My reply: Indeed, you finally understand me. If Jesus died for all, then all would surely, without question, be saved, for Jesus' blood is in no way ineffectual. However, all are NOT saved; therefore, Jesus did NOT die for all, but only for His people, only for the elect. |
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43 | How do you then interpret the verses... | Luke 8:13 | bjanko | 461 | ||
The common trait of all the verses you quote is that they all say that the man who chooses Christ will be saved. BUT THEY NEVER SAY WHAT KIND OF MAN CHOOSES CHRIST! This is the case with all so-called "free will" verses. The verses supporting predestination, on the other hand, are very explicit: they all say that no man can choose God unless God enables them to; or they say that God has chosen certain people to respond to His call. Taking this in view, it is very consistent to conclude that God foreordains whom He will save; and when these people choose God, they will have everlasting life. But if you simply say that sinful people who despise God somehow, magically, choose God; then you are really saying that man is not thoroughly sinful, that the inclinations of his heart are not evil continually, and you still have no explanation for how a corrupt man could choose Christ and a way of life which is entirely against all the sinfulness within that sinful man. And you also have no explanation for all the verses which explicitly state that God has predestined a people to Himself. I suggest YOU read John 6:44 in context. In the midst of telling people how to be saved, Jesus makes the EXPLICIT point that they cannot do it on their own. They have not ears to hear. Only the elect, those few who are responding to Christ, are saved; and He makes it clear, properly giving glory to God, that the ones responding have been chosen and predestined by God -- in other words, they are not choosing on their own, but God Himself is drawing them. So, clearly, God's drawing precedes their choosing. In context, the point is clear that Jesus says ONLY the ones who are drawn will be saved; for indeed they are the only ones who are enabled to come to Christ. |
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44 | Predetermined or Free Will | Luke 8:13 | bjanko | 465 | ||
You apparently did not read my post very carefully. For example, in citing Eph. 2:1 -- "dead in transgressions and sins" -- you made the point that it was not a literal term and then answered as though I claimed the verse referred to literal death. However, I specifically said "spiritually dead," which is how the apostle meant it. Spiritually dead is still dead, spiritually speaking, and so man cannot choose God. It's right there in black and white. You are not taking the words in their normal sense, but reading your view into them. You seem to have presupposed the correctness of your own view and begun with a bias against Calvinism and will accept nothing else. Rather than starting with what you would like to be true, you ought to consider what Scripture says to be true. (Whether Calvinism is true is irrelevant.) You also seem to not understand the term "predestined." That has the word "destiny" in it. It means that ones destiny is already decided. It does not mean that God knows what is going to happen in advance; God knowing in advance would be omniscience. If you do not know the meanings of these basic terms, how can you interpret the verses correctly? Finally, I notice that you have answered NONE of the questions I have posed to you. If you want to let us know your "verses," that's fine. But if you want dialogue, you need to respond to my questions as I have responded to yours. |
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45 | Predetermined or Free Will | Luke 8:13 | bjanko | 479 | ||
It simply sounds to me as if you are redefining many terms. I have answered your verses by arguing that mere verses are insufficient; they must be accompanied by the use of Scripture as a whole as the context in which to interpret them. I believe you, like all Arminians, are not setting all your "verses" in light of the whole of Scripture. So rather than parroting verses out of context, we must also be able to understand and explain the rationale behind them and how they must necessarily all "add up." If you want to answer my questions, you can review my previous posts and simply look for the sentences which end with this symbol: ? But frankly, I think it would be much more important for you to answer them FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT than for mine. I'm glad you have researched this topic. I feel you need to research it further, but that is up to you. As for me, I think I have answered you fairly well already. I do not think you have thought much about the issues I raised, but I really do not have more to say on the issue. By reviewing the previous posts, you can see what I have stated and WHY I have stated it. |
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46 | Predetermined or Free Will | Luke 8:13 | bjanko | 512 | ||
I'm sorry to see that you refuse to deal with the issue. | ||||||
47 | Predetermined or Free Will | Luke 8:13 | bjanko | 2284 | ||
No need to bother explaining it later in the week. I'm sure that if you are more than convinced, it must be true. |
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48 | How do you then interpret the verses... | Luke 8:13 | bjanko | 9683 | ||
Both are right. Paul was writing to Christians to remind them about the slime from which they emerged. |
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49 | Fear of what? The cured man? | Luke 8:37 | bjanko | 151 | ||
They were probably afraid of this breach of the natural. An incredible miracle had taken place and the people, being faithless, feared because this indicated that power of God had visited them. The unmistakable presence of God always strikes fear in the hearts of unrepentant sinners. | ||||||
50 | healing the man who was born blind by Je | John | bjanko | 2085 | ||
The theme of John is to get the hearer/reader to believe in Jesus and be saved. Romans 10:14 says, "... How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? ..." When we hear the gospel and believe it, we spiritually "see" that Jesus is the Savior. At the end of the passage in question, Jesus turns the idea of blindness right around on the Pharisees. John 9:40 Those of the Pharisees who were with Him heard these things and said to Him, "We are not blind too, are we?" John 9:41 Jesus said to them, "If you were blind, you would have no sin; but since you say, 'We see,' your sin remains. The man in the story starts out blind but ends up seeing... not just physical sight, but he "sees" that Jesus is the Christ. The Pharisees, while under the delusion that they have spiritual discernment (that they can "see") are really bilnd. The exalted Pharisees are humbled, i.e., shown they are blind; and the humble blind man is exalted, i.e., given the gift of faith (spirtual "sight"). In John 20:30-31, John tells us that these things were written so that we may believe that Jesus is the Christ and be saved. This is why Jesus did the miracle, "so that the works of God might be displayed in him," (v. 3) and so that we might believe that Jesus Christ is OUR savior; he makes us "see" the truth about this -- heals our spiritual blindness -- and thereby causes us to cross over from death to eternal life in Him. |
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51 | healing the man who was born blind by Je | John | bjanko | 2188 | ||
Ray wrote: 'Dear bjanko, You have gotten and given the message from the (Light) of the world here. It's a good writing. My only question is why after in the beginning you spoke of Jesus as Savior you didn't finish as strongly? You say "he makes us "see" the truth about this". Why the lower case Savior?' Because I forget to press the SHIFT key while typing the "s." -- bjanko |
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52 | Abiding seems to be very important in sc | John 15:4 | bjanko | 2083 | ||
3306 menĂ´; a prim. vb.; to stay, abide, remain:--abide(16), abides(22), abiding(4), await(1), continue(4), continues(1), endures(3), enduring(1), lasting(2), lives(1), living(1), remain(20), remained(6), remaining(1), remains(8), stand(1), stay(11), stayed(11), staying(3), waiting(1). Keeping the words from this lexicon in mind, "abiding" means to STAY DEEPLY STUCK in Christ, rooted in Him at such a deep level that you are as a branch which grows out of a vine, so that your very life and existence find their sap and nourishment in Christ Himself and in no other. Admittedly, a broad interpretation on my part. : ) |
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53 | Do you have to be baptized to be saved? | Rom 6:3 | bjanko | 98 | ||
No, but rather you need to be saved first before you can be baptized. | ||||||
54 | Do you have to be baptized to be saved? | Rom 6:3 | bjanko | 22360 | ||
You said: "baptism along with repentance is what remits our sins (package deal) you are saved simultaneously with being baptized" Sorry, my mistake. I thought Jesus' atoning death was what saved us. I didn't realize it was our own WORKS of repentance and baptism which did it. I didn't realize His work on the cross was a total waste. Go figure. I guess I better go back to the drawing board! |
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55 | Do you have to be baptized to be saved? | Rom 6:3 | bjanko | 22449 | ||
Baptism is simply a sign and seal of the covenant of grace we have through Jesus. It is a sign, nothing more. Jesus saves. If baptism saves us, then Jesus doesn't. And the Bible is clear that Jesus saves us. That is why I earlier said that we must be saved first in order to be baptized. God's sacrifice does not need water in order to be effective. Christ's work on the cross was sufficient. One who is not a Christian does NOT become a Christian by getting dunked. One becomes a Christian by trusting in Christ for an alien righteousness to be imputed (credited) to his account before a holy God. We are saved by faith and not by works, (including the work of baptism). Only once a person is saved does getting baptized mean anything. It is a sign of the covenant of grace. It SIGNifies ("sign") that we are in that covenant; it is a seal: it says we are sealed into that redeemed relationship with God through Christ. It does not save us; it is EVIDENCE that we have been saved by the Spirit of God APPLYING the redemption which Christ ACCOMPLISHED for us. |
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56 | Would you please give scripture evidence | 1 Cor 13:12 | bjanko | 265 | ||
I do not think any verses really address this. However, it is a reasonable assumption that our loved ones who are saved will be recognizable to us. We all have our same bodies, although they will be glorified. It is not a stretch to believe we will be able to recognize one another; but, frankly, I think we will be more interested in the recognition and worship of Christ. | ||||||
57 | Would you please give scripture evidence | 1 Cor 13:12 | bjanko | 2257 | ||
That is not evidence, but a faulty presupposition. There could be two reasons, at least, why Jesus was not recognized. 1) is the reason you give: that He appeared so differently that He was not recognizable; 2) that the two on the road were supernaturally prevented from recognizing Jesus. Why this would be so, we don't know. But there is really no "proof" of either reason; no Scripture texts. We can only guess at it. | ||||||
58 | Would you please give scripture evidence | 1 Cor 13:12 | bjanko | 2286 | ||
I was not trying to be argumentative, but rather to make a point. So, I suppose you could be right; my note might have SEEMED argumentative. That does not mean that it was meant to be so. | ||||||
59 | Can women serve as elders in the church? | 1 Tim 3:1 | bjanko | 220 | ||
No. That is not proper. See the preceding chapter of the very book you quote. "But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet." (1 Tim 2:12) |
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60 | biblical or cultural? | 1 Tim 3:1 | bjanko | 11979 | ||
It's all biblical and applicable unless the Bible itself says or teaches that it's not. |
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