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Results from: Answered Bible Questions, Answers, Unanswered Bible Questions, Notes Author: azurelaw Ordered by Verse |
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1961 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | azurelaw | 208125 | ||
Dear Cheri, The woman said to the serpent, "From THE FRUIT OF THE TREES of the garden we may eat; but from THE FRUIT of the tree WHICH IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GARDEN, God has said, 'You shall not eat from it OR TOUCH IT, or you will die.’” (Gen 3:2-3) The LORD God commanded the man, saying, "From ANY TREE of the garden you may eat FREELY; but from the tree of THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL you shall not eat, FOR IN THE DAY THAT YOU EAT FROM IT you will SURELY die.” (Gen 2:16-17) You see the diifference between the verses. I think they do not render the idea that Eve lied, but just that she was not entirely submissive thus expressing God's words her own way. 1 Tim 2:11-14 Shalom Azure |
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1962 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | azurelaw | 208127 | ||
Dear Cheri, I am just on my way to post an addition note to you. Now here is what I've perceived based on the verses and the difference. What Eve said also demonstrated her lack of attentive or less serious to the Word and details. It was apparently that she viewed the tree of the knowledge of good and evil as one of those among Eden for she said "the tree WHICH IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GARDEN". She did not regard the consequence seriously by missing "surely". Isn't it a picture, a teaching for us to handle rightly and accurately God's Words so that we leave no chance for Satan's temptaion? See how so many heresies and false teachers flourished for the same reason? Shalom Azure |
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1963 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | azurelaw | 208129 | ||
Dear Cheri, When one lies, there must be a motive, be it bad or what men call "good". However, what I interpret from the conversation between Eve and the serpent, Eve was just expressing what she "knows". Shalom Azure |
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1964 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | azurelaw | 208132 | ||
Dear Cheri, You are welcome. We are also blessed when we deal with the questions. Shalom Azure |
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1965 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | azurelaw | 208139 | ||
Thank you for your kind words, brother John. Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words; As silver tried in a furnace on the earth, refined seven times. Psalm 56:10 In God, whose word I praise, In the LORD, whose word I praise. Az |
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1966 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | azurelaw | 208143 | ||
Dear Steve, Hmmm...I understand your point. Thanks for that. Then I don't understand why it appears with the difference between the 2 passages recorded. If it were the case in the books of Gospel, slight difference can be understood because of different authors' purpose of emphasis. Since, Genesis is written by Moses not any other person, it should be much in harmony. In addition, why did Paul make such comment in reference to Eve in 1 Tim 2:11-14? Your further enlightenment is appreciated. Shalom Azure |
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1967 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | azurelaw | 208144 | ||
Dear Steve, Could it be communication barrier between Eve and Adam since God commanded to Adam directly at first. Nowhere it shows God talks to Eve the same command again. Shalom Azure |
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1968 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | azurelaw | 208179 | ||
Dear Steve, My thoughts? Hope it maybe sharpened and blessed through this dicussion :-) I think you might have noticed that my preceding posts on the thread rejected the idea that Eve lied. But "misquoted" (as you say) could happen and this, when based on the scripture written, I agree it my assumption. For I see from the flow of the scripture Gen 2:15-22, it seems to me much of Eve's knowledge (including God's command to Adam) is second-handed (i.e. through Adam), except that she knows God in the first place in person (Gen 2:22). So, am I reasonable to think that Eve's knowledge is to a certain extent inferior to Adam's? She is made as a helper to Adam, who needs to teach her everything for his fulfilling the duty given in Gen 2:15. Since: scripture does not say God gave the command to Eve again directly, it is very likely that she got it second-handed. The way she expressed the command differently does not render that she lied as I have pointed out earlier in my post 208127. For the phrase "God has said" (Gen 3:3), Eve was responding to the serpent's tricky question "Indeed, has God said..." (Gen 3:1). Since she knows there is a sovereign God at the first place, she "could probably" know about the command second-handed and scripture does not record a direct command to her, I still don't feel it strong enough to consider God gave her the command directly but just Eve was responding to the serpent in a misleading way innocently. Did I make myself clear or am I just muddying the water? I have to admit that the above looks pretty much on speculation. However, scriptures seem to leave so much blank there that I am tempted to use my fallibel logic for the course. I am open to correction :-) Shalom Azure P.S. My use of 1 Tim 2:11-14 is in concern of Eve's less submissiveness as demonstrated in her expressing the command her own way (my post 208127) thus causing her fall into transgression. |
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1969 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | azurelaw | 208182 | ||
Dear Seeker, No, it is for sure that sin did not enter the world unless they ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Please re-read Genesis 2 and 3. Shalom Azure |
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1970 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | azurelaw | 208186 | ||
Dear Lionstrong, No, the other way round : the serpent's misleading question pose onto Eve. She responded in a misled way. I apologzie for the misusage of word (blushed!) Shalom Azure |
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1971 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | azurelaw | 208187 | ||
Dear Lionstrong, You've got the point. I agree. Thank you for the correction :-) Shalom Azure |
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1972 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | azurelaw | 208194 | ||
Dear Steve, I, too, enjoy it much. By the way, what has just come to mind, I was pondering about the tricky way that the serpent has distracted Eve's focus from her duty of obedience to the consequence. When the focus is on the consequence, could one be easily tempted to see if it is true? I am not referring this to Eve, but to believers when our faith is tested. Shalom Azure |
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1973 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | azurelaw | 208207 | ||
Dear Cheri, Chuck and John, May I respectfully suggest that we start a new thread "tree of life" in order to reduce the load of the original question on this thread as the discussion tends to start with a new issue. Shalom Azure |
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1974 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | azurelaw | 208274 | ||
LOL :-) |
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1975 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | azurelaw | 208281 | ||
Wow, that's amazing, Hank! Could you please cite the source? :-) Az |
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1976 | what a women cannot become a preacher | 1 Tim 2:11 | azurelaw | 208282 | ||
Dear Jerry, Welcome to the forum. Please go the below link which provides an explanation of the verse in consideration with its CONTEXT. http://www.gty.org/Resources/transcripts/54-16 Shalom Azure |
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1977 | Whats a womens place in the Church? | 1 Tim 2:12 | azurelaw | 180290 | ||
Dear wiley, Is it necessary to have a woman writing a book (or books) in order to show God's putting equal weight on both sexes? Does it need to quantify the deeds of each sex on a balancing scale to prove God's justice? Isn't it that God's view on the two sexes as one flesh? (see Gen 2:21-24) Do you think the appearance (the visible part) of a person that usually draws much attention is more important than his internal organs (the hidden part) or vice versa? Shalom Azure |
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1978 | Whats a womens place in the Church? | 1 Tim 2:12 | azurelaw | 180304 | ||
Dear 2Tim215, Thanks for your response. Yes, you are right that Gen 2:21-24 talks about man and woman become one in flesh. However, don't forget that out of Adam, Eve was made; which means Eve was in fact part of Adam. Adam was made in the image of God. Therefore, both Adam and Eve attribute to the image of God. For my part concerning degree of importance on the appearance and inner organs of a person, I just want to say that male just like the appearance of a person though getting most of the attention, but female (as the inner organs)is regarded with equal importance even though it seems to gain less notice. Hope I have explained it clear. Shalom Azure |
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1979 | Whats a womens place in the Church? | 1 Tim 2:12 | azurelaw | 180341 | ||
Dear Steve, Seth bears the image of God as we all do. Did I miss anything? Kindly advise. I am learning. Shalom :) Azure |
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1980 | Whats a womens place in the Church? | 1 Tim 2:12 | azurelaw | 180348 | ||
Dear Steve, Then, did Seth bear the image of God since Adam was made according to the image of God? Do you mean that before Adam's eating of the forbidden fruit, God's image was still reflected on him. However, after that, Adam beared no more of God's image but just a sinful image. Thus, Seth (since he was born after the fall) beared only the image of Adam? Thanks in advance for your elaboration Shalom Azure |
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