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21 | filled with holy spirit? | Rom 8:13 | Wlerin | 121316 | ||
First off, the brackets in the Amplified are basically a sort of in-text commentary, though an uncommonly good one. As for your other point, aye. This born of the Spirit is more than the OT examples, but the OT examples are shadows (Col. 2:17, Heb. 8:5, 10:1) of things to come, thus, while they may not be the thing, yet they are a kind of prophecy of that thing. Er.... but in conclusion, hoping that I have not again mangled my meaning with awkward words, yes, John did not have this new birth. However, the words, at least in English (I don't have the LXX with me, so I can't compare) are the same, "filled with the Spirit of God" However, this statement is qualified, by "in wisdom, in understanding, in knowledge, and in all craftsmanship." (That being Ex 31:3) |
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22 | filled with holy spirit? | Rom 8:13 | Wlerin | 121317 | ||
Col. 2:17, Heb. 8:5, Heb. 10:1. Col. 2:16-17 Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day, things which are a shadow of what is to come, but the substance belongs to Christ. Note that all the things mentioned are things prescribed in the Law. Heb 8:5 (of the priests) who serve a copy and shadow of the heavenly things, just as Moses has been warned when he was about to erect the Tabernacle; for "See," He says, "that you make all things according to the pattern which was shown you on the mountain." Heb. 10:1a For the Law, since it has a shadow of the goods things to come, not the very image of things, can never, by the same sacrifices... Each of these applies only to the Law. However, I think that what I was attempting to say earlier was confused by a poor wording: The Bible contains the Word of God. By this I did not mean that only some of the Bible is God's Word. All of it is, but, the point I wished to make, or rather the idea I wanted to express, is that the Bible is not ALL there is to His Word. This, I have not yet undertaken to prove, nor will I in this thread, therefore, let it be dismissed for the time. |
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23 | Wlerin do you make other expections? | Rom 8:13 | Wlerin | 121359 | ||
Okay, various kinds of tongues is last in v28, and given FIRST apostles, etc, I see your point. As to seek vs. earnestly desire (NAS) in v 31, the Greek is zeloute, that is, "covet, be jealous of, set one's heart on." (abridged, from A Concise Greek-English Dictionary of the New Testament, by Barclay M. Newman). What verse do you base "seek" on? I am nearly certain that the meaning is very close, if not the same. Also, note 14:12-14 (NAS): "Since you are ZEALOUS of spiritual [things], SEEK to abound for the edification of the church. Therefore, let one who speaks in a tongue PRAY that he may interpret. For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful." Zealous is from the same word as "earnestly desire". But, truly, we are to worship in spirit and in truth, not in spirit only, nor in truth only. However, perhaps I misunderstand what you mean by seek. If you mean seek as a sign of salvation, then certainly we agree, it should not be so sought, nor any of the other gifts for that purpose (Luke 10:20 for one example. The NAS also has numerous references on this verse). However, I meant seeking in order to edify the body (1 Cor 14:5). As to the ecstatics... I don't see that in chapter 14. Yes, MacArthur (among others) does, but Paul does not condemn the exercise of tongues, even in the church so long as there is interpretation and order, and peace (14:26b,27,31,40). I know of no biblical reference to pagan use of tongues. |
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24 | Wlerin do you make other expections? | Rom 8:13 | Wlerin | 121361 | ||
Seek in 14:12 - zeteite, from zeteO, to seek, search for, try, attempt, or strive for; want, ask, ask for; demand, require; expect, consider, deliberate, examine. In context I suppose this would be "ask for", but with a more fervent asking than normal. Thus, prayer is seeking in this: pray to interpret (which edifies), seek to abound for the edification of the church. Zealous, and earnestly desire are not so close to seek as I had thought, but the two words do complement each other. |
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25 | filled with holy spirit? | Rom 8:13 | Wlerin | 121389 | ||
I have tried to explain what I mean by them being similar despite the difference in a note on Ex 31:3. See msg. 121386 | ||||||
26 | Who is the unnamed brother? | 2 Cor 12:18 | Wlerin | 121379 | ||
Does anyone know of another verse which might identify this unnamed brother? | ||||||
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