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441 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | Val | 208000 | ||
The same principle that you use "If someone came into my house and tried to rape my family, they would meet two friends of mine-Smith and Wesson :-). In the context of war and self defense. Picking up a gun would make one think that the end result of that could possible end in death of someone. If I am following you correctly you are saying you would kill someone to protect your family. If that right? You did say "Self-defense and/or defense of others is not a sin". So is there a commandment to not kill? Of course there is. But you would condemn me for using the same principle but in a different way, lying - to protect my family. Well, you will probably be questioned by the police and may if things don't go well end up facing a charge of murder. But you did it to protect your family, right? How is that different from lying to protect my family? Its not. Again I admonish you to use your common sense and quit trying to prove a point. No one said that lying or using a gun is the only way out. No one questioned the ability of God. No one ever said that. Your being a legalist now. Stop it. |
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442 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | Val | 207990 | ||
Dear Tim, Not every person has guns in their homes so plan B has to go into effect. Again, common sense is the order of the day. God is our judge. He sees the motives of the heart. Let's leave it to Him. Blessings, Val |
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443 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | Val | 207988 | ||
Eccl 3:1 There is an appointed time for everything. And there is a time for every event under heaven-- Eccl 3:2 A time to give birth and a time to die; A time to plant and a time to uproot what is planted. Eccl 3:3 A time to kill and a time to heal; A time to tear down and a time to build up. Eccl 3:4 A time to weep and a time to laugh; A time to mourn and a time to dance. Eccl 3:5 A time to throw stones and a time to gather stones; A time to embrace and a time to shun embracing. Eccl 3:6 A time to search and a time to give up as lost; A time to keep and a time to throw away. Eccl 3:7 A time to tear apart and a time to sew together; A time to be silent and a time to speak. Eccl 3:8 A time to love and a time to hate; A time for war and a time for peace. Eccl 3:9 What profit is there to the worker from that in which he toils? Eccl 3:10 I have seen the task which God has given the sons of men with which to occupy themselves. Eccl 3:11 He has made everything appropriate in its time. He has also set eternity in their heart, yet so that man will not find out the work which God has done from the beginning even to the end. Eccl 3:12 I know that there is nothing better for them than to rejoice and to do good in one's lifetime; Eccl 3:13 moreover, that every man who eats and drinks sees good in all his labor--it is the gift of God. Eccl 3:14 I know that everything God does will remain forever; there is nothing to add to it and there is nothing to take from it, for God has so worked that men should fear Him. Eccl 3:15 That which is has been already and that which will be has already been, for God seeks what has passed by. Eccl 3:16 Furthermore, I have seen under the sun that in the place of justice there is wickedness and in the place of righteousness there is wickedness. Eccl 3:17 I said to myself, "God will judge both the righteous man and the wicked man," for a time for every matter and for every deed is there. Bowler, this is the passage for my previous post to you. A word study on evil, righteous, justice, innocent, defenseless might be a good place to start if you want to pursue this topic. Blessings, Val |
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444 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | Val | 207985 | ||
I believe the "if we break one sin, we break them all" topic is in reference to salvation. There are degrees of sin. We have different punishments for different crimes legally. A child rapist is certainly more evil than someone who passes a bad check. The same principle goes in a time of war or personal crisis. An evil person may want to rape the women and children of the house, am I to expect the men of the house to idlely stand by and say well yeah they are in the upstairs bedroom to the right. Duh. I would expect them to do everything in their power lie, cheat, steal, whatever it took to save the women and children in this particular situation. Now God has said we may protect our families and our country so I take that to mean protect them. Its like the former illustration which is the worse the rape of children and women or passing a bad check? I would think very little of a person who did not do all he could to protect the defenseless and innocent. Now if we lived in a perfect world where there would be no evil people, life would be simple but its not so again we must use our common sense. It was given to us for a reason. When evil people threaten our lives and the lives of our loved ones, we can defend ourselves. War is ugly. We do the best we can. God is our judge not our fellow man. So don't sweat the small stuff bowler. Press on. Blessings, Val |
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445 | is it ok to lie in certain cases | Col 3:9 | Val | 207923 | ||
Bowler, I agree with you. I heard someone say one time that God does not ask us to check our brains at the door when we come in to church nor should we check them at the door when lives are at stake. That is why I love to read the OT stories of people. There you see where God protects his people in all sorts of ways and sometimes it is to mislead the enemy. I believe he raised up Rahab to protect Israel. Common sense is common sense no matter how you cut it. Walk in the spirit and use common sense sounds good to me. | ||||||
446 | Where and when did Gentiles originate? | Bible general Archive 4 | Val | 207831 | ||
Cheri, thank you for your response. I pray you will have a good day. Blessings, Val | ||||||
447 | Where and when did Gentiles originate? | Bible general Archive 4 | Val | 207823 | ||
Cheri, did you get my last post to you and was that what you were looking for or did I miss your question? | ||||||
448 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207744 | ||
Dear Tim, I apologize I did not mean to imply you are unethical. What I meant is that all of us are colored by that which we were taught as a child, teenager from others. Usually, however a person grows up, they remain that way as an adult in most cases. I am talking about denominations. So not only you but me, and I believe others are influenced by how our parents, loved ones, taught us. My point was that you and I and others must be objective when we approach scripture. We all have presuppositions that cause us to lean in one direction or another. I believe it takes an objective in-depth study as I have pointed out in other posts, as well as, a consideration of those who have studied before us and those in this age that devote their lives to the study of the bible; all this is available to us at this time. I am thankful to the Lord to be living in a day of so much grace. Now I will get back to the joy of studying His word. I am afraid I spend too much time on here. Please take no offense. I apologize if I came across that way. Many blessings; Val |
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449 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207742 | ||
Doc, thank you for your thoughts. Many blessings, Val | ||||||
450 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207682 | ||
Dear Pastor Tim, Thank you for the response. Any time - tomorrow or later is fine. May God bless you, Val |
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451 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207678 | ||
Hello Cheri, I use the NASB. When I order a bible study on a book of the bible from Precept.org the observation worksheet is included in the workbook in NASB version. I think you can print out observation worksheets from the Preceptaustin site. They are double spaced and give plenty of room to make notes and color the words. Then after you are satisfied with what you have done you can transfer it to your bible if you prefer. I personally just use the workbook. There are several steps in the workbook one of them being word studies. There are many dictionaries out there. I use Vines and Ziodiates. Also you may also use different versions of the bible. In inductive study you are asked to do the observation first before you go to commentaries. I would say since some bibles are paraphrased they should be treated as commentaries. The defination indeed adds to the meaning of a sentence. There is much, much work that goes into inductive study so that when you finish the study you know that you know what you have studied. I also have The Zondervan Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible by Tenny. They have come out with a newer version available this fall I believe. I would like to have it. I have the older version. It is a five volume collection. I like books. Yes you could check major "versions". Any research that would aid you in your study is encouraged. We are only limited by time. After each lesson is done in the workbook, ideally you would gather together with others and discuss what you studied for a suggested hour. And finally you watch a one hour tape of teaching which is optional but I gain more if I watch or listen to the teaching. Your attention is constantly going to the word to see what the bible says. I am not in a group right now I do my workbook at home and watch the tape after I finish a lesson. Its great for me. Blessings, Val |
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452 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207669 | ||
Dear Pastor Tim, Beginning in Hebrews 5:11 - 6:12 I mark the group of people called the recepients in orange. They are referred to as "you, us, brethren". Other groups of people are marked in their own colors. But is a word of contrast. I mark it in a different color. Therefore is a word of conclusion I mark it in a different color. Let us and better are other key words I mark in a different color. This is some of what is included in an "observation worksheet". Now concerning your question about Verse 11 - I marked "you" in orange. The word "those" is not in verse 11. I would have to go back and study John inductively to comment on that cross reference but a question does arise, do you feel the John passage you quoted shows "a turning away"? Could you tell me what you believe the verses in Hebrews 6:7-8 mean? Do I understand you the "partakers of the Holy Spirit" is the phrase that you base your view on or are there other passages in the bible that support your view? So the phrase "it is impossible to renew them again to repentance" - your view is they repented. I see but did they? That is the question. Doesn't that make your view even more difficult? Because if you can turn away isn't that saying you can't come back? How do you explain that perspective? In verse 9 it starts with a contrast (the word but) of "those" who will be burned and "you" who show love... The "those" in verse 12 are explained as "those who through faith and patience inherit the promise". So this is a different "those" than the those who will be burned up because of the description. Blessings, Val |
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453 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207659 | ||
Dear Pastor Tim, Thank you for you post. Although we disagree I respect your opinion. As a sister in Christ I do see that it would cost you to change your opinion on this passage. Factors like this might lean you to a particular perspective. However, I have always been taught that when I am wrong I am to line up my life with the teaching of scripture rather than lining up scripture with my life. I hope you are not offended by this. It is my wish that you as well as everyone on the forum grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. Its been a pleasure taling with you. Blessings - Val |
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454 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207646 | ||
Look at verse 8 - Those who tasted and fell away are like the ground that received the rain and didn't produce vegetation but only worthless thorns and thistles - they'll be burned. This is talking about "those" in verse 4-6. Now look at verse 10 - they brought forth vegetation - your work and love shown toward His name, ministering to the saints. This is about the true believers. There is an exhortation in verse 11 - there is hope. That hope is in Jesus. Be deligent not sluggish, verse 12. Blessings, Val |
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455 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207642 | ||
The people in Hebrews 5:11-6:3 are one group of people; the "you" The people in Hebrews 6:4-6 are another group of people; the "those" Hebrews 6:7-8 explains the case of the "those" as hoppy has explained very well. Hebrews 6:9-12 is about the true believers. "Those" people in verses 4-6 have obviously called themselves christains, been around true christians, then turned around and made a mockery of the cross by turning away from claiming to be a Christian. At a point in time, they turned aside from what they had experienced. “it is impossible to renew them again to repentance” (renew—restore) They cannot be restored to repentance, since they turned from true repentance. - Spiros Zodhiates, The Complete Word Study Dictionary: New Testament Blessings, Val |
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456 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207636 | ||
Doc, I looked forward to what you would have to say on this passage. I was not disappointed. Excellent commentary. Thanks, Val | ||||||
457 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207625 | ||
Well I would turn to that scripture that says God's spirit does not always strive with men. There is a time that the call comes and if we miss the call, we miss the call. I will let you know after I have completed my study of Hebrews. I have twelve in depth lessons to go. It takes a week to do one lesson if I am diligent. Blessings, Val |
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458 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207619 | ||
Dear Sir, I am in an in-depth bible study on Hebrews as we speak. Let me ask you a question. Does your christian journey ever get hard in the sense that people make fun of you for your belief in Christ Jesus as the only way. Have you ever been put in prison for your beliefs? Have you ever been beaten for your beliefs? Have your possessions ever been taken for your beliefs? Has your family ever disowned you for your beliefs? The book of Hebrews is an exhortation. The reason the book was written is found in Chapter 13:22. As I have said before people were going back under the law. Hebrews shows them (us, everyone, saved or unsaved) that that is not a good idea. He then goes on to teach us why not. If you do a word study on priest, high priest, you will see the contrast of men who were priests and why Jesus, our High priest is much better. One thing we can agree on is they are suffering. Many people have tried to help you understand but it has not satisfied you. May I suggest the only thing that will satisfy you is for you to do your own in-depth study of the book of Hebrews and the Holy Spirit may answer this one question you have. Precept.org has an indepth study. The facts I gave you were from a teacher who has spent hundreds of hours studying this book. Let us agree to disagree. Rome always persecuted christians sir. Did they not put our Lord to death? What about the apostles? Weren't they afraid of Rome? What about Paul? Didn't the Roman soldiers beat him one time? Couldn't they just take people's property as they pleased? The historical context is one of suffering. Hadn't Timothy been released from prison? As to your specific passage, I told you this sounds like christians but if you look in other books of the bible, when they talk about christians they use different language like justified to describe them. Partakers of the Holy Spirit. We know the Holy Spirit convicts of sin. Some one in another post explained how someone could enjoy the benefits of the Holy Spirit at a church service but not have a genuine faith. It talks in the book of Hebrews about those who do not enter Christ's rest those under Moses who wandered in the wilderness. It says they had hardened their hearts. They did not enter because of unbelief. It talks in Hebrews about "the shaking". The evidence of a christian is that they continue in the faith. The ones who can't take it cause the journey gets too tough they drop out. Were they christians? No they did not continue in the faith. When the shaking started they fell off. They did not have a genuine faith. The point I believe and the teaching I believe is that the author is telling the genuine Hebrew christians that it would be inappropriate to go back to the law, the old covenant. Why because of who Jesus is, what He did and where He is now. So my thought is He is telling them what we have in Christ and the message falls on the saved and unsaved. The saved will continue on in the faith. Those that professed Christ but did not have a genuine faith will fall off when the shaking starts. The life lesson is what Christ has done for us. He is our High Priest. Look no further. He is the way, the truth, the life. I think at this point in my study of Hebrews and I am on Chapter Four by the way, that the application is made by the individual. If I am saved and I go back under the law, which by the way, some churches today, do that, the author is saying in essence thats not appropriate. If I am not saved, I can be saved if I put my faith and trust in Christ. When the shaking starts, I look to Christ, my High Priest, to help me. You speak as if suffering is a slight thing. It is not. Christians need encouragement. It is said that there are more martyrs for Christ today than in the history of the church by Barna Research. Persecution is enough to discourage and cause many to go backwards instead of forwards. I personally and I hope you are not offended believe you have to look at the whole book to understand it and those verses have to be understood in the context of what is being taught in Hebrews; the contrast of the better covenant to understand these verses you have pointed out. I think your zeroing in on them too much and doing it that way does cause too many problems. Blessing - Val |
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459 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207599 | ||
We are always to consider the obvious passages of the bible to understand the obscure passages. We know from other passages the language concerning saved persons is different. It would say this person has been justified or some other description that would be positive evidence of salvation. Rom 5:1 Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, We do not find that positive description here. Again look at the history of what was going on at the time. People were being killed for their faith. Nero was trying to blame the christians so he could burn Rome. He even used them as torches. Would this not shake the church? But instead of stamping them out it made christianity stronger. Hebrews is a word of exhortation. An encouragement to hold on. The way to do that and is pointed out in Hebrews is to keep your focus on Jesus Christ, our High Priest who can and will help us. We must look at the entire message of Hebrews and the authors purpose. |
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460 | Heb6:4-6 Loosing salvation or what? | Heb 6:4 | Val | 207549 | ||
Consider the times. Nero was burning Rome. He was blaming the christians. To be a jewish person who was a christian would encounter even more suffering. The people were becoming weary. Ready to give up. Tired of the suffering. Hebrews is an exhortation to them to keep their focus on Jesus, our High Priest. Keep your eyes on Jesus, who He is, what He has done and where He is now. Don't give up keep your focus on Jesus. Don't go back to Judaism. Don't go back to animal sacrifices and the law. We have a better sacrifice, Christ Jesus. There is no other sacrifice for sin. Christ Jesus has paid the death of sin once for all. Hope this helps. - Val |
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