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361 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205317 | ||
Dear John, I am not trying to belabor this overly much dear heart, but something keeps niggling at my heart and my brain... It is the concept of being called to suffer in order to obey Christ as having first place before personal discomfort, "but if you burn, marry". I am thinking abuot another verse, "God will not test/tempt (which ever translation) you beyond what you are able, but will make a way out (usually, but not always a spiritualy one). Here is a concept to consider; if someone were a fornicator and then repented of their sin, but did not come out of that relationship would we still be saying that they are going to heaven? According to I Corinthians, I do not think so... Why then do we make this big allowance for Christians who remarry after divorce saying it is too late to change it, someone committed adultery on them (the text in Mark makes no such claim about adultery being the cause of the divorce that subsequently remarrying means it is adultery, only that marrying a divorced person constitutes adultery). And no, I do not think God want us to allow His child to be bound up and in mental pain and heart ache, but we are called to suffer Christ in order to obey Him when things don't go our way. What do you think? God Bless, Tam |
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362 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205323 | ||
Dear John, I am letting this go out of respect for you and in love too... This was not about a disagreement or a not disagreement as far as what I intended to be doing with you John, in pursuing it. This was about that inquisitive mind we discussed before seeing something that did not line up with the whole counsel of scripture about sin John. I was not trying to push my view, if we disagree and that is what you can see about this, I respect that, and I do most sincerely apologize to you John, my brother in Christ. I don't come in here to address disagreements, only to look at what all the counsel of scripture when put together is driving the exegesis to dictate how a passage or scripture should be interpreted. I know for a fact that you agree that exegesis drives what the interpretation is going to be, not how we look at things, and not our views. So I will agree with you and say we disagree, and I will respect you and not push my views on you. And I will not do anything to make you feel disrespected John. I will lay aside my motives and my views about what I have done in pursuing this and see it your way in terms of how it appears to you, okay John? xoxoxox :):):):):):) By His Eternal And Indispensable Grace, Tam |
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363 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205325 | ||
Dear Pastor Moran, I appreciate the recommendation of the two books by Dr. Spiros Zodhiates, when I can I will order them. It is the exegesis of this that is of supreme interest to me and in the interests of brotherly love I am willing drop any subject at any time based on my experience in here if that pursual of further exegesis offends a brother or a sister. At least I have grown that much since joining this forum. I love conversing and studying with the saints who love to pursue exegesis, it drives the true meaning of the texts and hopefully these two books will endeavor to do just that, that is why and it is the only reason why I am in this Forum, to get at the meaning of the texts, for this I live. But to do so without love is loss to me... It becomes interesting as observation kicks in which types of concepts get kicked around in here and on what basis... Over a hundred posts on one subject lately... Not much of it very exegetically driven. I am no genious, nor am I what they would call a good exigete. I am a work in progress, I world at it and sometimes I am way off, and sometimes I am very alone in my endeavor. We are all from different backgrounds and come from different places and have different intrepretive lenses on, mine are not better, just different than some others. Thank you for your continued patience with my blundering efforts at exegesis Pastor Moran, and at good conduct, you have been more than gracious when I was on the wrong track at times and you kept on encouraging my blundering efforts to get at the root and the truth of a thing. But hey that is what Pastors are suppossed to do, right? Keep on being the Barnabas that you are, full of the Holy Spirit. Thank you, By God's Grace, Tamara |
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364 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205337 | ||
Dear Jim, Let me help you out here a bit, because I do understand what John was saying, which he said very simply and to the point... The sctipture would come from either Romans 7:2 where the widow is free to remarry since her husband has died, or I Corinthians 7:39 where the wife is free to remarry if her husband is dead. Please note the original thing that John was saying clearly; However, if that spouse does not repent, (i.e. keeps on doing what they are doing, without intent to change.) then you may divorce (According to our Lord) and remarry if you chose, to a one that has not been married, or widowed, or is not divorced for the wrong reason. Look closely at this one little part right here that John said, all I did was to add the commas like he said to do and it makes perfect sense; remarry if you chose, to a one that has not been married, or widowed, or is not divorced for the wrong reason. John says remarry if you chose, to the following types of folks, those that have never been married, or a widow, or one who is not divorced for the wrong reason. The first two can be found in I Corinthians 7, and the last in Mathew 19 according to John's reasoning here. Hope this clears it up, I think John got tired of talking about it all a while ago guys, let's lay this thing to rest. Okay? okay... God's Day To You, Tamara |
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365 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205339 | ||
Dear Pastor Moran, Yeah, I have heard this before, that she becomes an adulteress when her husband divorces her in Mark... People don't get the historical contexts and the grammatical contexts that drive these passages at all, they think in terms of now and what these transilterated words and passages mean in the now, not what they meant then. I have also in the past, due to circumstances had to explore the meaning of porneia, and porne the related word, in order to determine what constitutes such a thing. I had two pastors and three ministers do exegesis on this whole issue of Mathew 19, Mark 9, I Corinthians 7 and being unbound and in what way, what consituted porneia in the first century, and the use of grammar in all three passages. I settled for I Corinthians 7:11 after much much counseling and plan to err on the side of complete and utter caution and plan to remain in that state until the day I die, unless someone repents and then reconciliation could be possible. I find it interesting that if it were fornication and not stopping but saying, I repent that I entered into it would be completely unacceptable, but having committed adultery by remarrying and repenting and continuing in it for expedience sake is considered passe. I wonder what dear Apostle Paul would think? I wonder what dear Jesus would think? I think I would wonder hard before saying okay, I understand it is too late, go on ahead and stay in it. It is never too late to walk away from sin of any kind, just pick up and say I am done, cut it, suffer the consequences of walking away from sin, any sin. In the end only one Pastor, mine was against me getting divorced based on the exegesis. I had every reason according to the others exegesis to cut it and be free and remarry one day. That is why I was surprised to hear him say in Bible study the other day about the same thing John said after his exegesis many years ago. He holds the same view, if two Christians are now together, having gotten married, there is no reason why God would not forgive a past sin. Yeah, I think I will make the effort to purchase these two books for real Pastor Moran... Yours in Christ, Tamara |
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366 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205355 | ||
Dear Dan, Very interesting indeed, did you see brother Tim Moran's last post to me about the meaning of the words commits adultery in the Mark passage? He is right, and how about this, Mark's account is the eldest account and may actually be considered to be more accurate by some commentators. I though it was interesting to rediscover that in Mark is actually says that who ever divorces his wife makes her an adulteress, having nothing to do with that she committed adultery. The reason for this is that there was no such thing as your father taking you back, your father arranged to have you remarried at the earliest possbible convenience and that made you an adulteress, which is what Jesus meant. Some of these issues are not reconcileable in the usual way do to the grammatical constructions from one account to another. Reconciling these accounts is not so simple as reconciling say, the tomb accounts. No one said there was a conflict, a difference maybe, not a conflict. While it is true that if we confess He is faithful to forgive, consider that you cannot remain in the sin and keep walking in it just because you were forgiven. I said it before, I will say it again; if this were a case of fornication and someone said, I repent, but kept right on living in it, would you think they were going to heaven? I don't think so, and I bet you don't either, but when it comes to adultery, depending on who is doing the exegesis someone gets a free pass. What no one except Tim Moran has been able to do, for lack of skill is to do a grammatical and an historical criticism of these passages thoroughly to see exactly what the Greek was saying, not a word study, that is not enough, the tenses, the finite minutia of Greek, and a real thorough histocial study to determine exactly what the author's intended the texts to mean. That stuff is not able to be seen by looking up every word in Greek, more is involved. For instance did you know that the word porneia can refer to a number of things according to, not how we see the word listed in the Strong's but according to how the word was used in the first century? The word inicates immorality many kinds; a woman being seen with another man in public, a man improperly touching a woman - on her face - her arm with a caress, as fornication by penetration, as adultery by penetration, as temple worship idol sex between homosexuals or lesbians or bewtween heterosexuals, as masturbation, as sexual fondeling another, need I go on? When we look at the grammar for Mark and see that it says whoever divorces his wife makes her an adulteress, we also can see that it makes him an aduterer, without qualification of cause. When we look at the grammar in Mathew we discover that the verse in question is clausal; whoever divorces his wife except for immorality, is the first clause; and marries another woman commits adultery is a second clause - the exegetical commentators say that the first clause states clearly the ability to get a divorce for immorality, but that the second clause depends on the first clause in a cause for getting a divorce by says absolutely nothing about the right to remarry. In I Corinthians 7:15 we have a big problem with the modern translation of a Greek transiliteration into English. Every one takes this verse to mean if the unbeliever leaves then you are free to remarry. The text says no such thing, it says that if they leave and are an unbeliever then the believer is not bound to reamain married, no where in the that text does it say you are free to get remarried, but people read that into it even though the English grammar, the Greek grammar does not support that. In fact Paul comments on the state of marriage and on what grounds one can remarry at the end of the passage in verse 39 saying a wife is bound to her husband as long as she lives, what it does not say is, but if one of them commits adultery you are free to remarry, you are certainly free to divorce in such a case, but not to remarry... There is no way to get that out of it without reading it into the text. Going to get those books that brother Tim Moran suggested in a post back there somewhere... God's Day To You, Tamara |
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367 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205362 | ||
Dear Jeff, No my dear not on a crusade here at all, myabe I should just stop answering everyone who decides to post me with what I really am considering about the texts in mind here... No slight to anyone intended. If I have offended you let me know please... My aim is ever to divide the passages, not to point fingers at people, that is not what we are here for. If the grammar, or historical evidence does not support one's interpretation, why is addressing the grammar and history seen as pointing fingers? I am not here for that. Where in the text in I Cor. 7 does it say you are anything more than unbound, as in divorced? Where does it say you are free to remarry? Show me please, how the grammar allows for "when we take this in context"... Please show me how I have taken the group of verses that speak about being divorced, and about being unbound, and about Jesus speaking of God's original intention that the two are one flesh, and about God hating divorce, and about they are married until one of them is dead - and then show me how the counsel of scripture is saying on the whole that one is free to remarry? I agree with that folks who came to the Lord having gotten into an adulteress situation and how we can't expect them to separate... Now that there saved they are forgiven and should not be expected to separate. My questions were all centered around those that have been saved and then choose to remarry, entering into adultery because they feel that since somone wronged them they can move on, stay in the new relationship, ask for forgiveness about it and expect to find themselves in heaven. I can see we do not agree about this part of the issue, would you like me to stop? I will... Or would you like to examine the scriptures some more? Which is all I have been doing about this issue since answering posts, not disagreeing with folks, examining scriptures like we are suppossed to be doing... But if I have all knowledge but have not love, I am as a clanging cymbol... You said; "Every one takes this verse to mean..." Really? And you, perhaps, have some special insight and every one else is wrong? Please, I don't claim special insight, perhaps I should not have said everyone, and that might have been better? I am talking about the grammar there, please. Where does it say that being unbound, or loosed means you are free to remarry? Would you like to base your answer on Mathew 19? That is where some people would like to stand; that it means if one sins against you you can remarry... You said; Free to us, but at great cost. While we are not free to judge another's salvation, we can safely assume that a person who continues in a willful lifestyle of gross sin against God may not be saved at all, we can't rewrite the Scriptures to say what they don't say. I am not trying to rewirte scripture - I agree with you here about everything you are saying... We don't judge another's salvation - I keep trying to see how one can continue in sin and still be saved. This is something you have hit on here yourself. Please consider that I see the same thing, if a person is doing this they may not be saved. The counsel of scripture in the New Testament does absolutely teach that there is no sin that cannot be forgiven except one, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. It also teaches that if you continue willfully in sin and just never turn around and stop, you may not be saved at all; I,II,III John, Hebrews 6, Mathew 7:21-23. There is wheat and there is chaff; it is not up to me to say who is and is not, I never claim to do so. I am here to try to divide these scripture please. Let me know if you need me to stop, and I will consider not answering anyone's elses concerns either... Have Blessed Sunday, Tamara |
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368 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205393 | ||
Dear John, I realize that others have different views than mine. You decided you did not want to be discussing it anymore because you said we were in disagreemnt. I stopped discussing it with you in grace. Others wished to discuss it. I am not here to refute folks John. When will you understand me? I have made a concerted effort since the dreaded issue to respect when an individual wants to drop a subject between myself and them. I am going to say this unitl everyone is tired of hearing it; I am here because I am interested in dividing scripture! I am not interested in pushing my view on anyone, I am not interested in my view, or your view or anyone esles. What I am interested in is dividing scripture by exegesis, and to do it with respect for others and in LOVE, to get at the intended meaning of the original author to his audience, period. I answer post by addressing scriptural issues that are posted to me and try to see how their observations fit the scriptures that they address, or present. I am not here to change anyone's view, that is not why I answer anyone back. I respect good intentions, and I love wise counsel along with the next Christian I have been willing to except rebuke and exhortation and let it run down my proverbial beard. I have apologized to people in here who never had the grace as you have, and as others have, to actually forgive me that I would know of it. What I have observed is that my division of scripture is being taken as if I stand in judgment of others, as if the division of scripture that I present is a view I have taken towards what others should do, go do, etc. You mistake my intentions totally, most people here have repeatedly... I am interested in how application is derived from a body of scriptures on a topic, not so I could go admonish folks, or say, HEY EVERYBODY GO DO THIS, THIS IS RIGHT YOU ARE WRONG! This is not about what I believe in my heart as a Christian, this is about studying with others who may see things differently then me, Halellujah for differences in the body of Christ! I have done my best to understand what every body else looks at things like in terms of how I have replied. Now it is time for every one else to stop and try seeing it from my point of view, not the sbuject matter, but my intentions in continuing to answer exegetically about the scriptures being discussed. I am very tired of trying to study with people who have mis judge my motives. I love you John as a dear brother and from the first issue between us I have been trying to get along, not just with you, but with everyone. I have a question, not so much for you John, but for everyone; Are you really interested in studying the Bible together to the extent that we are here to dialogue and edify one another because we are willing to engage in that Bible study? If so, where is the understanding of not another's view, but of another's reason for being in here? Next question; why is the continuation of dialogue to get to what a body of scriptures through study together, or a scripture means one is seen as pushing one's view? Please think about this. By His Infinite And Eternal Grace, Tamara |
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369 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205395 | ||
Dear Jeff, This verse down there applies to me and not to you my good man, I cannot answer this post, I have promised another dear brother to cease and desist, if you would like, look up my profile and email and I would be willing to continue studying together with you, even though we see this differently. If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. Hope your Sunday has been blessed, mine has great service today, really great... God's Day To You, Tamara |
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370 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205397 | ||
Dear WOWS, I was making a point my good saint in answer to another one; namely this, where someone else said that Mathew had been an eye witness and that his account may have held more weight, or something to that effect, I said that (in light of that statement) Mark was written earlier - my point was not to place one scripture over another but to point out that we shouldn't do that and that each may have features which would make them, possibly to some commentators (notice I did not say to me) be more reliable accounts. For the reasons stated above some commentators (again, not me) hold one or another account of the same thing as closer to what may actually have happened. This is called critical commentary, part of an historical research to determine what actually occured. A valid reconstruction of events of the passages or surrounding events of the passages. This is not an attempt to disparage scriptures, to say that one or the other may be seen by a commentator, who is much better trained at looking at the subject at hand to determine the things I just mentioned. No one was holding scripture above another when it is all God's Word. That is not the case. This is purely about Bible Study, not preferences. God's Day To You, Tamara |
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371 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205400 | ||
Dear Doc, I am laughing so hard and my face is so cracked up I can barely type which is why it is taking me so long to reply to you my dear good man... Yeah, oh meo mio, hats, marriage, critical commentators, fumbling attemtps at good exegesis, virtual blow outs, figurative run ins, suppossed views, Bible Study (!), soul sleep, preterism, oh meo mio. Movie "Big Trouble in little Chinatown" - when an eight foot giant slaps the back of your favorite head against the bar room wall and asks you if have paid your dues, you look that eight foot giant in the eye and say, "have I paid my dues, have I paid my dues, yes sir, the check is in the mail!" - Jesus paid the whole thing! Here is one for you Doc; II Timothy 4:2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great diligence and instrution. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will trun aside to myths. Hope your Sunday has been a blessed day, mine has, God's Day To You, Tamara |
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372 | Divorced Do Christians Get Married? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205401 | ||
Dear kwame adu, Note for john forgive me John, this deserves an answer... According to what you are saying she was not married at all when she had a child? You are both believers who repented of past sins? Am I understanding this correctly? You are free to be married! Is it not so my dear brother in Christ! We have been dialoguing and studying back and forth about what would happen if you were married before, got divorced and then married... Yours is not the case! Happy life for you! Be blessed my brother! Enjoy being head of your family and raising her child as you would your own! Here is for you; 1)Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave Himself for her (have a sacrificial love for your wife and put her every need first). 2)so that He (Christ) might sanctify her (your wife), having cleansed her by the washing of the word (teach your wife the Bible, study with her). 3)That He (Christ) might present to Himself the church in all her glory , having no spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that she would be blameless (you are preparing your wife for Christ by leading her, taking care of her, teaching her how to walk with you and God). 4)So husbands ought also to love their own wives as their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself; (what ever you would do to ensure your own well being; feed her, clothe her, house her, send her to the doctor and the dentist; take care of her). 5)for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes it and cherishes it, just as Christ also does the church, (you cannot neglect your wife, she is one flesh as part of you, you have to take care of her with the same type of care Christ gives the church, in order to do this you will have to study Christ Himself and how He handled Himself in the Bible). 6)because we are members of His body (you are belivers together, each one of you needs the gifts of the other as husband and wife as part of the body of Christ). 7)For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and shall be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh (you must not involve your parents, or her parents in your private marriage affairs of every day living decisions, do not go running to mom for advice on your marriage or your dad, go running to the Bible and the elders of your church when necessary for wise counsel, you are one person with her, not with your parents). 8)This mystery is great; but I am speaking with reference to Christ and the church (marriage is the closest relationship that a human can have after their relationship with God, you are one with Christ, second, you are one with your wife, treat the relationship as what it is, not a love relationship first and foremost, but as a covenant between God, you, and your wife in that order - all of God's covenants must be ratified and no covenant is ratified (made valid) until one is dead, all of God's covenants were ratified in blood by the death of the mortal participants -that is why Jesus had to die to bring in a new covenant and why He had to do it by blood - that is also why you will see that the Bible says a wife is bound to her husband until he is dead - the marriage covenant with God is not ratified until death and the shedding of blood (everyone's blood does sink to the ground at death) occurs, then the covenant with God has been validated, this is why it so very serious to break the covenant before death, it has not been ratified, made valid). 9)Nevertheless, each individual among you is to love his wife even as himself, and the wife must see to it that she respects her husband (you are told again to love your wife). See Ephesians 5:21 as well - you are co-heirs of Christ, equal in inheritance of the things of God and you should give way to one another in all things. See Ephesians 5:22-24 you wife only has three things to be doing compared to your 9, the whole responsibility of how the marriage turns out rest on you, don't complain about your wife, get on your knees and go above your own authority over her and seek God's authority over yourself, get yourself in line with God first before bringing her in line to you and to God. Trust me, it will work, headship is a God concept, adhere to it and God will honor that and He will work on you and then, your wife for you and through you. Notice God tells your wife to respect you three times in different ways, and He tells you to love her in 9 different ways - God knows what He is doing; your wife needs love, you need respect. Of course you are to love and respect one another, but notice God's guidelines that He has in mind for you; it fits His plan for you to be one person who will worship Him together and it fits your personal needs as man and woman. God is wise, trust His counsel from this word of Ephesians. God's Day To You, Tamara |
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373 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205420 | ||
Dear Jeff, Like I tried to tell you my good fellow, just email me... Did you not find my profile? whatdoyoubelieve@hotmail.com Tam |
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374 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205421 | ||
Hunh? Scratchin my head here... the second half of verse I Cor. 6:9? Hunh wa? Explain Ricky Explain! (shades of Lucile Ball).. Tam |
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375 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205427 | ||
Dear Jeff, No dear, that was about Doc continuing to teach sound doctrine as he always does my dear... Tam |
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376 | Divorced Do Christians Get Remarried? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205455 | ||
Dear danjg, Did you not read the whole thread? I realize how long it is, but I promised someone else by te grace of God and in love of Christian fellowship, I would drop it it is dropped! I have no problem continuing outside of here for study purposes if you wish; eamil me at whatdoyoubelieve@hotmail.com God's Day To You, Tam |
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377 | homosexual brain wired that way at birth | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205733 | ||
Dear believer, Quote, Christian Ethics and Morals, essay by Tamara Brewington 2008; Medical Aspects The Kinsey Report was responisble for flawed data concerning the percentages of sexual exploitation in children and adults. Some researchers state that there is no evidence to support the hypothesis that homosexuals or bisexuals are chromosomally, or hormonally differetn than hertosexuals. Sexual behavior has been found to be the result of learned behavior, rather than genetic disposition. The pathology of the family psychology has been found to have little to no effect on becoming homosexual or bisexual. There have been attempts at treatment of homosexuality and research has not proven that sexual orientation is determined by the age of three. Research shows that homosexual behavior can be reversed. Homosexuality has been the cause of a rise in sexually transmitted diseases of all types due to promiscuous activity, accounting for 50 percent of all sexually transmitted diseases. Hepatitis B is prevalent in the homosexual culture and there has been a rise in the incidences of rectal cancer. This causes a public health problem touching the interests of the general public at large. I think it is safe to say there is no merit to the beliefs of homosexuals that they are "born that way" the Bible says that they got the was they are for worshippping something other than God and science clearly shows that their "feelings that they are born that way" are unfounded to date. God's Day To You, Tamara |
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378 | homosexual brain wired that way at birth | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205834 | ||
Dear Bonnie, Oh my Bonnie! It would be impossible for your email to be given out unless someone in charge of the forum gave it away, which is against the guidlelines of this forum! They promise to keep that information confidential, or none of us would have come in here and been willing to join up, it prevents quiet personal harassment! The process of the question, not feature only allows for individuals to be able to post a note to you by the forum using your confidential email address to send it directly to you, it does not give out your personal email address! Are you sure these notes did not come as poted notes, which everyone will be able to view, or did these notes not come up for everyone to view? For every question you asked there is a thread at the bottom of the screen; click on to your original question and scroll to the bottom of the page and you will see all the names and notes of people. Some of them are addressed to you, some are not; there is a bar going up which shows who posted to whom.. I am really sorry again for all of us here that care that you were hurt and I apologize again that you were hurt, as John was too... You should not have to be crying for a few hours because of things like this, I remarked to John somewheres else that we all need to be sure to rebuke and exhort in gentleness and meekness of heart. And this is why I made the comments to you that I did trying to comfort and emphasize with you... Someone else, not John, thought I was being fuzzy luvy and did not understand how hurt you really were, they missed that the tone you were being addressed in was not all that nice because Bible scripture was being used as if that covers it all, it doesn't... Something like that may be called for, but with a certain amount of delicacy in delivery to make sure it does not discourage. I have noticed that sometimes based on the type of reply that is given by the questioner to a note posted them that it may generate questions about one's affiliations because the answer one has may reflect an understanding from a secular view and then that is when Sola Scriptura comes out as the driving force behind a repply to that. Keep being led in the way everlasting, loving Sola Scriptura is not more important than loving your brethren..., Stand Strong in the Lord and in the power of His might, Tamara |
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379 | homosexual brain wired that way at birth | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205839 | ||
Dear Val, You are presenting yourself to those who come to the forum as if you speak for the forum and somehow are in charge of it. You have been given far more leeway than anyone I have ever seen come here. Please stop. Okay Val, I apologize to you that I aologized to Bonnie saying that I was aologizing for only those who are sorry she was hurt, because everyone can apologize for themselves if they feel the need to all right Val? I have been insulted directly, not by you, I have been challenged to see if I am in compliance with what scripture says I should act like, again not by you, I have been told repeatedly that my Biblicaly based questions which are based on Biblical concepts are not scripturaly driven - the forum does non require that every question be driven by a scripture, it requires that every question by Biblicaly based. I take some mild issue with your concept here that I am presenting myself as if I speak for the forum and am somehow in charge of it... I think that it is quite apparent that that mode of operation has been taken up by quite a few others in here as they decide what is Biblical or not, decide that all questios and answers must be accompanied by a scripture when the forum says where possible, use the quotes of great protestant theologians which is tradition and not Sola Scriptura per se, these same people take great lee way to continually chat without a scripture in sight, although in keeping with being somehow Biblicaly based answers I suppose this qualifies as acceptable behavior, and some other continually post indelicate answers meant to show someone they are quite wrong without one drop of Christians grace, although I suppose that is in keeping with the guidelines of the forum. I have had a number of private emails about the clicks that exist in here and to be patient with them because their intentions are not bad, but for good to pursue the Bible and that these people who band together and sometimes gang up on someone, like they did me, mean no harm and love everyone. Who ever was involved in these things concerning me has since apologized, and I to them, and it was more than two folks. What lee way do you think I am being given Val? You have me truly wondering here, the others who have been here a long time take plenty of liberty to say what ever they want back and forth to one another and not very much of it is exegeticaly based and a lot of it affirms one another's belief's, and scripture is not always included, but as soon someone disagrees with the status quo, whether they have a scripture or not then the lee way to express is quashed immediately. But I am being given a whole lot of lee way. I will never again Val say that I aplogize for those who are also sorry Val. I also do not agree with everything you have said about scripture, but I keep my mouth shut every time because I see you engaged in long back and forth dialogues about what you believe on whatever level you have choosen to discuss it and do not think it would be nice to break the flow with a view that is not agreement with all of you who agree so heartily with one another for so very long per subject. I will stop, for the third time apologizing for others Val. I would like to see even one post to the several other members here who have set themselves up as purveyors of this forum telling them that they are somehow in charge of it and presenting themselves as if they speak for the forum. Please next time consider emailing me... Just a thought... God's Day To You, Tamara |
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380 | homosexual brain wired that way at birth | 1 Cor 6:9 | Tamara Brewington | 205842 | ||
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