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201 | What did Jesus mean by this | Mark 9:23 | Ken hepting | 91651 | ||
The faith that we have comes from us. Then when we believe it comes from Jesus. What about Romans 12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. [KJV] Measure of the faith of Christ, John. |
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202 | What did Jesus mean by this | Mark 9:23 | Ken hepting | 91676 | ||
I WROTE: The faith that we have comes from us. Then when we believe it comes from Jesus. What about Romans 12:3 "For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith." [KJV] True, but remember first Paul was writing to Christians who had their faith established unto a belief in Christ and were in the proccess of having the faith of Christ established in them. The first part is a gift, i.e., God draws by His Spirit unto salvation those who will receive Him. Faith is imparted because we believed the word we heard preached. After we receive His imputed gift of salvation we can choose to go no further. We can be as the the followers mentioned in Jn 6.66 where they walked away from Him figuring what He was saying about intimacy and becoming was too tough for them, or as the rich young ruler who came to Him but walked away sorriful because He couldn't see his way clear to follow Christ as Christ asked Him. Notice there that Jesus didn't say He had to for his salvation. Jesus ignored that part of it because the young man already had a releationship with God that the blood of Jesus, once shed on the cross, would bless unto his salvation. [Though I'm sure that once in heaven he would have regrets] Now we don't know if the young ruler came back the following week to follow Jesus at this point. Nothing more is said. Be assured, the young man counted the cost. At this point in discussing this I'd like remind ourselves that is by the shed blood of Jesus that we are saved and NOT following Him....Lets continue.. If we choose to go further we are given a nature equal to Jesus Christ to help us on/in 'the way' to becoming like Him. Now if we say we follow Him then the following verses kick in for us: LU. 14.26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it? Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him, Saying, This man began to build, and was not able to finish. In other words one can't follow Christ half heartedly though this has nothing to do, in my estimation, with being saved but being a disciple. Jesus says as much. As long as the Holy Spirit is in the world drawing people to Christ for salvation, discipleship will always remain the focus of God's attention because it produces "sons" for Him. Just 'saved' people are the most pitiful because they have refused to move on into Christ and be established as His Brother. They are content to live by the rules and dictates of their own old nature and, in my estimation, place the issue of their salvation in jeopardy because they have NO power to live in the abundance of Christ who says you must deny yourself in order that you receive my strength. Enter the nominal and/or YO-YO "Christain experience with regrets following", that doesn't honor God as Father. I hope this makes more sense. |
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203 | What did Jesus mean by this | Mark 9:23 | Ken hepting | 91677 | ||
(Romans 3:21-22) Isaiah 54:14 In "righteousness shalt thou be established": thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near thee. [KJV] "In Righteousness"...literally, "IN CHRIST" and to be 'established' connotes a 'prosess of becoming'. Jesus told us to have the "God kind of faith" Mark 11:22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God. [KJV] *Bells going off here! Having faith IN God is not the same as having the faith OF God. We are to have the faith of Jesus, the MAN, who had the Mind of God and we are follow Him to learn how to live by the same faith He had....with the same mind He posessed! ------------------------------------------- Literally, "Have the faith of God." Such is possible or it would not be a command. Wrong! God IS FAITH. It it not something He has because He is what He has! We are command to have the faith of Jesus, the MAN. ----------------------------------- Man was created with God's faith but doubt entered in at the fall (Genesis 3:1-7). Faith is restored in the new birth and if normally exercised and maintained it will grow to fullness and power (Romans 1:5,17; Romans 10:17; Galatians 2:20; Col. 1:23; Col. 2:6-7; 2 Thes. 1:3; 2 Peter 1:1-5). Dakes Annotated Bible Just something to think about. That's Mr. Dakes take on it. I believe he and I agree on most what he says here. I say most and really mean all but would like just a little more clarification from him to be sure. I have his bible. Asis |
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204 | What did Jesus mean by this | Mark 9:23 | Ken hepting | 91699 | ||
And? Meaning what? I don't use Dake. I read him very little except for his statistics, maybe. Having said that doesn't mean I can't agree with Dake on some issues regardless of what Mr. Whatever his name is, says. My personal preference in a study Bible is the Thompson Chain. I happen to own four of them. I also use a Holman NASB, which I cherish along with Moffatt and Phillips none of which have commentary. |
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205 | What did Jesus mean by this | Mark 9:23 | Ken hepting | 91716 | ||
At the hearing of the Word faith in the word preached prompts us to repent and therefore, receive salvation. But can you elaborate on this statement? "only now it is He, Himself, THE WORD, Jesus, who is our faith that we must live by!" ----------------------------------- Ph1.21 Paul said this and it was his experience: "For to me to live is Christ, ...." He lived in Romans 8 and John 17.21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us. May I suggest that you begin to view your life in Him as a son to be, but a son [now] nevertheless. You are to live by a new law given by God Himself, i.e., the person of Christ Jesus Himself. Paul says in Roms 8.2.14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. But read the chapter again in the light of Jesus living in you and His faith being excerised in you as you live IN the Him. [back to Jn 17 with that] |
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206 | What did Jesus mean by this | Mark 9:23 | Ken hepting | 91721 | ||
Romans 10:17 says,"So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." How does that fit? -------------------------------- Wouldn't you expect that the faith of Jesus comes with Him when He takes up His abode in you and me? Paul seems to think so and the Holy Spirit seems to confirm this to Paul when he says in Gal 2.20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live BY [my] faith In the Son of God.... We could carry this out to continue to say: "who now expresses Himself through my obedience to His life in me to the Glory of God, "our" Father". Makes sense? Can't I legally conclude that? Isn't there a cooperation seen in this arrangement? If you agree then ask yourself the question: "Am I keeping my end of the bargain? |
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207 | What did Jesus mean by this | Mark 9:23 | Ken hepting | 91733 | ||
Are you saying here that physical healing is included in the word 'salvation' as in made whole, spirit soul and body? Or are you saying healing in this verse meant spiritual healing ----------------------------- Neither. I'm implying that her physical healing typifies our coming to Christ for our spiritual healing [salvation]. Ergo, OUR faith, in Him, has made us whole [unto salvation]. |
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208 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Ken hepting | 93263 | ||
I would have to add that the non-reality/acceptance of the pentecostal experience in most churches is the biggest contributor to the assimilation of the 'world' into our churches. Something must replace the power of God as the attraction for attending. Enter the programs such as "Forty Days of Purpose" or "Experiencing God". I wonder what the new fad will be next year? | ||||||
209 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Ken hepting | 93270 | ||
"I'd be interested to know what you think the Holy Spirit is supposed to do "in" us. It seems to me that anything he is likely to do "in" me will probably manifest itself in some outward way - as a gift of the spirit." Hi Steve! Ever hear the term "AC hum"? It's an electronic term and a situation within the circuitry that is rectified to produce a clean sound. Us Christians are full of "AC hum" that the Holy Spirit is given to "rectify" out of us the "HuM" that distorts and makes unclear the sweet clear sound of Jesus..It's sometimes called "purifying"...the soul. |
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210 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Ken hepting | 93294 | ||
Yes. And we shouldn't be given that Spiritual gifts have ceased. However, many who would agree call 'breathing' a Spiritual gift, refusing to embrace anything deeper. Consequently the church has taken on a false "spirituality" with a fidelity to natural obligations that is devoid of the presence of God. Michael Harper did a paper a few years back titled "Love or Gifts". If that can be found it is well worth the reading. One will notice that Chapter 13 of 1 Corth. is sandwiched in between 12 and 14 that should speak of the implication of all three being linked together. The absence of one in practice weighs heavily upon the effectiveness of the other two. When all three are in balance chapter 13 is greatly intensified being without dissimilation. This is "that" which Peter spoke of in Acts 2.16 refering to the prophet Joel. Jesus refered to it as "Bread" in John 6:58 (KJV) This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever. The eating of the Bread has to do with Chap 14 which should produce chap 13 and thus build up/make perfect, the effectiveness of chap 12. I fully realize that "This is That" is refering to a single part of something that was given on the day of Pentecost but taken away from the context of all else Jesus pointed to and spoke of has lead many to throw the baby out with the bathwater rendering the church powerless. Flour, yeast and water, make bread. |
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211 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Ken hepting | 93316 | ||
"but I have never seen a Biblical proof from them past 70 AD. Gifts were for the early Church and ceased, just like Paul said they would. Take care," Hmmm. Last time I looked 'Knowledge' was a gift. ...Lets see... then there is "Faith". Hmmm?? ....Take care |
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212 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Ken hepting | 93333 | ||
"before or after the Return of Christ. Most likely Paul meant the knowledge, or wisdom of the Age they were fixing to come out of. However, if you have a take on knowledge passing I'd be more then willing to hear it. Take care," Interesting but not unique. I've heard all that before and it still can't be reconciled with what Paul was stating. He says ALL knowledge will cease when we see Jesus ..face to face. So I must ask you why you feel the need to continue to learn after you are informed by Jesus Christ as to the sum of all knowledge? A joint heir will know all things as He knows all things, correct? ..Ergo, knowledge will cease...And since the gifts are for the edifying of the Disciple and the edifying of the Disciple's church, they will also cease to be needed....but only then will they cease to be needed. |
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213 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Ken hepting | 93348 | ||
"No. God reveals things to us as He choses. You know that Christ is the only way. That is really it, that's all you need. But, I believe that Christ does in fact reveal things to us still. To spread the Gospel, we need to know the Gospel." I thought we were speaking of a face to face experience with Christ and our 'knowing as we are known' and not what we PRESENTLY experience. That is what the scripture says, correct. Perhaps you should examine what "ages" mean. "Well, that's one way of looking at it. I still hold to ceassation around 70 AD though. Take care," Well I guess you'll have to come up with some scripture to support that theory. When Peter said that the promise is for all that are afar off, means me. Guess what? .....He was right. |
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214 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Ken hepting | 93414 | ||
"Yes, he was right. We are able to partake in the promise. BUT, so were Christians in the first century too. All believers, then, now and forever are able to partake in the promise. Take care," Then maybe you need a better understanding of what the promise is......based on the statements Peter, Paul and ....Jesus....or are you one who has a form of Godliness but denies it's power? |
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215 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Ken hepting | 93416 | ||
"We are, but you desire a physcial fulfillment, which I do not see as Biblically correct. The Pharisees very much wanted a physical fulfillment as well, but they were corrected." No need to condescend. Your lack of understanding here just keeps you from the deeper things of Christ' teachings. It's evident by your unkind thinking in your remark that you can't separate the physical from the Spiritual. They wanted a king. We expected nothing other than to be redeemed. Jesus gave us the "Promise", an enablement, that we become a son. The Pharisees don't even enter into the picture at this point. Jesus hid what He was doing and was going to do from them but to us He is the same yesterday, today and forever, unless you think He made a midcourse correction and failed to mention His slip up. ------------------------------------------- ...Perhaps you should examine what "ages" mean... "Well, I have, but what is your take on Ages?" No. I asked you. You are the one who believes that the "church age" is somehow stuttering in it's possession of the manifestation of the Holy Spirit. I find that it is those who think it ended in 70 a.d. to have the diffficulty in believing the evidence that still exists. No time in history has the power of God been more needed than now and you think it ended when the Apostles died. ---------------------------------------- ...Well I guess you'll have to come up with some scripture to support that theory... "Olivet Discourse plus 1 Cor 13:8." Nonsense. You have to throw out the rest of the Bible to support that view. I'd get a better understanding of what the "promise" is that Jesus and Peter spoke of. John 17:19-21 (NASB) "And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they themselves also may be sanctified in truth. [20] "I do not ask in behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through THEIR WORD; [21] that they may ALL BE ONE; even as Thou, Father, art in Me, and I in Thee, that they also may be in Us; that the world may believe that Thou didst send Me. Try reading this chapter again, for the first time...Take care |
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216 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Ken hepting | 93516 | ||
"No. Preterists openly acknowledge the power, we understand that Christ DID have victory, then and forever. And through His victory, we have victory. Take care," You mean you believe it used to be but now you are sterile because it ceased to be yet somehow still is and you can't figure it out. That must be very frustrating for you. |
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217 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Ken hepting | 93529 | ||
"Yes, beautiful passage. And not counter to Preterism or "gifts" ceasing. Take care" Gee. I must remind myself of this the next time I hear my aged friend who, without an education, speaks the most beautiful Mandrin Chinese as the Holy Spirit gives him utterance. |
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218 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Ken hepting | 93532 | ||
But then the church isn't a salvation issue either. I feel bad for you. Take care. | ||||||
219 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Ken hepting | 93548 | ||
"Correct! Gifts and salvation are not tied together....." Correct! ".....Neither are gifts and the church....." Incorrect! ".......Neither is the church and salvation......" Partly correct! ".....I think it's a good idea to fellowship with Christians, but it's not a salvation issue...." Maybe! Depends on the condition of the "Christians" and what influence I may bring into the gathering. "....Salvation is grace, not church attendance or having a "gift"...." Maybe....A little to cultish here, I'm afraid. A good question you might ask yourself is "What salvation"? There is one that must be worked out with fear and trembling. Does the church have part in that one? How about the gifts? |
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220 | Why little sign of power in our churches | Mark 16:17 | Ken hepting | 93551 | ||
Sorry this is a late response. 1 Cor 13:8 shows us that gifts will cease. At the time of 1 Cor 1:7 spritual gifts were very much abound still. Both 13:8 and 1:7 show us that they cease upon Christ's return. Now it's just a matter of when you feel Christ will or has returned. Take care Apparently you must believe He has returned. |
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