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421 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91234 | ||
That's interesting. I guess we can throw out all the commentaries and personal experiences of Godly men and women if they can't be reconciled fully to our own pious conceited thinking. Let there be no doubt they are wrong and I'm right. Is that it? | ||||||
422 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91231 | ||
2 Pet 1:4 "For by these He has granted to US His precious and magnificent promises, so that by them you May BECOME partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world by lust " Why don't read this real carefully. #1. Who's us? The 'just saved' who don't follow Christ as Lord, who are still wrapped in "self" or those who have abandoned their "self's" or are learning how to abandon their "selfs" to Christ? #2 What does "you MAY BECOME mean if it doesn't mean a future happening that is to begin happening NOW? That's what His precious promises are all about. It is a 'now' issue by having your senses perfected in HIM by the power of the Hol;y SPirit to function that He gave us on the day of Pentecost. Hmmmmm?...this is a very elementary teaching of Jesus Christ. |
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423 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91228 | ||
Not a chance! Consider you've just misread Paul, if he is the one who wrote Hebrews. Lets read it all: 13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Now pay close attention to whats coming: 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles/elementary teachings of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms/washings-NASB, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. All elementary to Paul and you say, what? What perfection is he speaking of if it be not something we 'strive' for NOW having the same Spirit within as Jesus had? 1 JN.5.5 Who is he that "overcomes" the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? I believe the word "overcome" is what bothers you all. Want more? I've got more. |
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424 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91225 | ||
"Perhaps if you were to explain the term and explain what effect having a "divine nature" has, may help." I think I'll let you think about that part of your question and how that divine nature given you should affect your life. Hint: The Great Commandment and 'Seek ye first the Kingdom of God'. Abandon your "self" and then 'abide'...It takes a divine nature to do accomplish that. |
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425 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91223 | ||
"There is a distinct difference between being indwelt by the Holy Spirit and possessing a divine nature as you call it. Perhaps if you were to explain the term and explain what effect having a "divine nature" has, may help." But there is no difference. Jesus had a divine nature that is given to us because He is given to us. Jesus, His divine nature/Spirit of Truth and that which is given us, is one in the same. Jn14.16-18 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever-the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives WITH you and will be IN you. I will not leave you as orphans; I WILL COME TO YOU...."Lo I and WITH you always. His nature is that nature given us at New birth. |
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426 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91217 | ||
Roman's 8.14 "....because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, "Abba, Father." |
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427 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91216 | ||
There is really nothing difficult about this, Guys. Re-read Jn 15,16 and 17 then 2 Cor.4.11: For we who are alive are always being given over to death for Jesus' sake, so that his life may be revealed in our mortal body. So then, death is at work in us, but life is at work in you. It is written: "I believed; therefore I have spoken." With that same spirit of faith we also believe and therefore speak, because we know that the one who raised the Lord Jesus from the dead will also raise us with Jesus and present us with you in his presence. "If the SAME SPIRIT that raised Christ from the dead dwell IN you, ............" |
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428 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91201 | ||
"By the new birth we recieved a spiritual nature, not a divine nature. We are not little gods!" Little god's we aren't but you are grossly wrong when you say we didn't receive a divine nature. If you say, as you do, a spiritual nature, then I ask who's spirit and was it not divine? Me think's you need to re-visit that in your thinking. Is there one I don't know about that the word of God speaks of? Please show me from God's word, then be prepared. |
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429 | Please explain | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91198 | ||
"Romans 12:2 says that the will of God is "good, and acceptable, and perfect". It was the will of the Father for Jesus to live the life He lived. Jesus said that he did not speak His Own words, but only what the Father gave Him." This all is so as you have presented it. Now place yourself IN Jesus and the whole thing becomes you. You say, "but I don't know God's will perfectly". Let me explain. His perfect will for us, as the redeemed of the Lord, is to become as Jesus, the MAN. We should all be saying as Jesus, the BOY, "I must be about my Father's business". The "process" of becoming is what we all should be about and that's what a good Spirit filled church should about doing.i.e, caring as a mother to bring about those son's and daughter's God is after to fill His kingdom for Jesus' sake. Where we are individually in the process is not the issue, however to encourage for one another should be one. The "kingdom of God suffers violence and the violent TAKE IT by FORCE". In others words it is a warfare, one that is mostly with our "self" that doesn't like hanging on a cross and dying. All that I just posted isn't for evangelizing except Jesus said "make disciples of all nations". We Christians, by and large, haven't done that. We don't know much about that part of it. We drop them off at the cross and leave them there with "12 twelve self-improvement" program and say 'find a church and get involved'. Then the church burns them out with their social activities all supposedly "Holy Spirit" inspired.. "I am curious as to what prompted your reasoning here. Your knowledge of the scriptures includes, I'm sure, that Christ had to keep the law for our sakes because of our inabaility to do so. It was the Father's plan for Him" He kept God's intended law that the Jews distorted. But that I believe you understand. So we can rightly say He didn't ever break God's Law. I agree. But now that is something we must be about also, don't you think? The priviledge for us however, is that God's law is now found in Christ. Keep Christ and you keep God's law "for there is no condemnation for those who are in Him". If we fail and sin we have an advocate with the Father, Christ Jesus. This without the need to shed blood as the Jews must/needed to do. His perfect blood, the "Perfect Lamb of God" was shed once and for all. Now we can enter in, receive from Him, and get on with becoming unto Him a vast family as He purposed for to become. "When you say "go straight to the cross", are you inplying that as an infant, Christ could have suffered and died, or are you saying that He didn't even need to be born? What are you saying?" Let me ask you: If perfect blood was all it was about for the remission of our sins, which it was, then why didn't Jesus go straight to the cross? He was that perfect blood sacrifice from the beginning. The word "Lamd" connotes innocence, purit, and YOUTH/BABY. For that matter you could ask why did God wait so long in sending Him to be that sacrifice? Why didn't He do it right after Adam sinned? Obviously there is more to it than redemption. Jesus tells us in His word through the Gospels that Paul is given to explain in more detail. Jesus said He/God would send another comforter who would take the things of the Father and reveal them to us as the Father revealed them to Jesus, the man..That other comforter being the Holy Spirit. Great questions, 4givn. I hope I've helped with what I've posted....Ken |
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430 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91138 | ||
oo-ooh my... "Is this the criticism you were expecting? I could pin you down to the level of your master. The one who first tried to use scripture against my Master, I will conclude with Pro 26:5; Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit." You'll have to do better than that, George. You might first explain to me what I said to spark such contempt? |
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431 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91137 | ||
"This might help if you would explain what you mean by these terms. To me, the 'kingdom' and 'sonship' are all related to salvation. When someone is saved, they become part of the kingdom and a son." Jesus was a demonstration of the Kingdom. You might say He was a Kingdom of one who desires to multiply Himself. Ever wonder what the 'treasure in the field' is or the 'Pearl of Great price'? Think about it. Many -saved- are called, Tim. Few choose, consquently few are chosen. Everything spoken in the NT Epistles is spoken to disciples not just professors who don't follow. Jesus would that we either hot or cold but not luke warm. Rev.3.16. Sonship is what it becomes all about once you are saved and catch the vision of Kingdom |
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432 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91135 | ||
Do you mean this for me, George??... I don't think so |
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433 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91126 | ||
Thanks, Hank..same here | ||||||
434 | ONLY ONE BAPTISM | Bible general Archive 1 | Ken hepting | 91125 | ||
"The other baptism in the New Testament was that of the Holy Ghost, and it was only recorded twice. Once with the Apostles(Acts 2) and the second was with Cornelius". Lets not forget: Eph 19.3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. 4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. 7 And all the men were about twelve. "The baptism that is for us today is to be submerged in water, representing Christ's death, burial and ressurection, and therefore being added INTO the body of Christ by God." I agree with this but it is not all there is for us as a provision from God for our intimacy with Him: Acts 2.39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. That means us and He's speaking of the Baptism of the Holy spirit as demonstrated on the day of Pentecost that was prophecied by Joel 2.38. I very needed experience in ones private prayer life and worship. |
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435 | ONLY ONE BAPTISM | Bible general Archive 1 | Ken hepting | 91122 | ||
"You are very right that there now is only one baptism, but wrong that the great commission. Christ told them to go into all the world and preach the Gospel, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost." Oh, I see how you are saying that. But that is still only water baptism at best...could be a verbal thing like what's done in a marriage ceremony but I'd rather think that since baptism means to submerse that that's what it was, orthodoxy being observed at all times back then. |
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436 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91121 | ||
That's fine, Hank. I apologize for my wrongness. People have a tendency to twist words or purposely omit words when quoting for advantage in an arguement/discussion...I've been in those forums and hope this one will be different. I hope you will carefully read what I post before responding and I hope you will continue to respond...Thanks,Ken |
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437 | ONLY ONE BAPTISM | Bible general Archive 1 | Ken hepting | 91115 | ||
"There is only one Baptism that subordinates all other baptisms. That Baptism is the Baptism into the Body of Christ, the one Paul was refering to. All other subordinate baptism's underpin this one very necessary Baptism". The above is a statement. "Since Pentecost was mentioned it might be interesting to note there are three manifestations of the Holy Spirt, all, unlike baptisms, very significant in a Christians life. Anybody want take a crack at that one?" To repeat the question: How many "manifestations" are there of the Holy Spirit? Not to be confused with how many times the Holy Spirit has appeared throughout the Bible. Manifestation---ways which the Holy Spirit acts upon man. This is no trick question. |
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438 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91109 | ||
Does that help you, Tim? | ||||||
439 | Isn't believing Christ for salvation suf | John 3:3 | Ken hepting | 91107 | ||
"Ken, Christian maturity is a product of following Christ, i.e., discipleship. "Religious head knowledge" as you put it is not discipleship and is not Christian maturity" Isn't that what I said? I'm not after some oneupsmanship game playing. Can we be clear on that?...;] I hope so. "Perhaps in your assessment of what Christian maturity is, you are thinking of Christians who have lost their first love, who have become lazy, laid-back, apathetic shells of the vibrant disciples they once were. They haven't matured! They have simply withered on the vine." --Hank No Hank, I'm thinking of the church that doesn't teach the kingdom of God and the "bringing many sons into Glory" theme of the Pauline epistles explaining the reality of the nature of Jesus Christ we must come into.. |
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440 | ONLY ONE BAPTISM | Bible general Archive 1 | Ken hepting | 91099 | ||
There is NO baptism of the Great Commission. There is only one Baptism that subordinates all other baptisms. That Baptism is the Baptism into the Body of Christ, the one Paul was refering to. All other subordinate baptism's underpin this one very necessary Baptism. Since Pentecost was mentioned it might be interesting to note there are three manifestations of the Holy Spirt, all, unlike baptisms, very significant in a Christians life. Anybody want take a crack at that one? |
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