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41 | Lord's Table | Matt 18:21 | Face | 176613 | ||
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42 | Lord's Table | Matt 18:21 | Face | 176622 | ||
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43 | Lord's Table | Matt 18:21 | Face | 176623 | ||
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44 | Lord's Table | Matt 18:21 | Face | 176624 | ||
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45 | eat what you will? Mark 7:19 | Mark 7:19 | Face | 176160 | ||
Funny thing you say you never were under the law. Rom 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) those without the law, perished without the law O.O |
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46 | eat what you will? Mark 7:19 | Mark 7:19 | Face | 176161 | ||
considering the context in which this passage was given, it would appear to me that all FOODS were declared clean. According to the law given to Moses, unclean meats were NOT food, but an abomination. In the context of the custom of handwashing immediately before food (this custom still exists to this day), Yah'shua wasn't declaring all that entered the mouth food, he was declaring that eating without the ceremonial handwashing didn't defile what was already acceptable food. Similarly, when Peter had the vision of unclean animals in the sheet, it was interesting to note that even at that point, he didn't seem to think that Yah'shua had declared all animals clean. Even after said vision, he declared that his understanding of the vision was pertaining to the acceptance of gentiles for salvation. |
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47 | There is no "Thus he declared". | Mark 7:19 | Face | 176164 | ||
Ask yourself this: Abraham was also told to offer up his son Isacc as a sacrifice. Does Yahweh tell us to do this, or was it a test? Was this vision a declaration of clean vs unclean animals of being food, or a declaration of the gentiles also being able to join the fold? Read Acts 11 to see what the apostles came up with. Also consider Act 10:28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. it was unlawful by oral tradition, but not unlawful by Torah to keep company or eat with gentiles. Is not this what this vision was about? Again, straightening out the oral law that made Torah of none effect. |
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48 | Under the law?No. | Mark 7:19 | Face | 176167 | ||
Before you jump to conclusions and decisively declare yourself not under Torah, consider this: 1. Let's see who gave and established Torah Joh 1:16-18 So we see in verse 16 and 17 that it was favor (i.e. grace) that Torah was given. It was given through Moses, the grace and truth came through the Yah'shua Messiah. the same word which was in the beginning. Most read that thinking there is being shown a contrast between Moses and Yah'shua, but the preceding and following verses show that's not the case. Imagine this: You and your people have been enslaved for years. You've been forced to work 7/365. You've been under influence to worship pagan gods, and give them all they demand. You've experienced hierarchy where only the rich and powerful get the good stuff. The poor are dispensable. (Look up caste system in India, that's more or less how it works. Actually it's similar in many other countries. The rich get health care and share very little with the poor) Now, along comes this true Elohiym, and shows you how it should be. Now according to his rules, you get 1 day in 7 off to rest. According to this system, you get at least 2 weeks off per year, celebrating in his festivals. In this system, people are precious. The poor are taken care of. There's a health care system for everyone,done through the Levites, and it's equal access for all. The promise is given that if the people follow the rules in the system, they won't be cursed with evil diseases like they saw in Egypt. Women are protected from marauding men. If a man desires a woman, he can't just take her. If he does, and she cries out, he is put to death. If she is single, and doesn't cry out, then he has to marry her and cannot divorce her. Other sexual perversions are also forbidden, and I believe this was for our own good. Mat 11:27-30 Here again, in verse 27, we see it is Yah'shua who reveals the Father. Matthew testifies that no one knows the Father, except through the Son. His yoke is the same as he gave to Moses. In it is life, and it's not nearly the burden satan would put on us. Luk 10:22 Again, the son does the revealing. He did all the speaking from the very beginning. He represented Yahweh. He guided Abraham, Jacob and Moses, giving promises he would redeem and keep. Finally he gave redemption by giving himself in place of us; he took our sentence on himself. In turn, his Father trusts him with everything. 2. Yah'shua himself confess that he and the Father are one. Joh 10:30 So if he guarded and kept his Father's commands, and he was the one who declared them to Moses as John testified, then when he said to keep his commands, what commands do you think he was talking about? All of them, or just the ones you feel like keeping? 3. Paul confessed Acts 24:14 that the way which they call heresy (belief in Yah’shua the Messiah), so worships he the Elohim of his fathers (Abraham, Isaac and Jacob), believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets Paul again, in all of Romans 3, but specifically vs. 31: Do we then make void the law through faith? Yahweh forbid, yea, we establish the law Romans 4 v.1_5 Abraham was boasted of by others for his righteousness (obedience) but even that didn’t justify him before Yahweh. It was his belief in Yahweh that justified him, and his obedience was a result of that faith v.15 without the law, there would be no transgression (sin) v.11 circumcision was given as a seal of righteousness even while Abraham was of the uncircumcision (a gentile) v.14 This verse appears to me to be saying those who think they are saved by the law, thereby making believing useless, and by doing so, have nullified the plan of salvation for themselves Romans 8 v.1 there isn’t any condemnation for those who don’t follow the ways of the flesh, but follow the Spirit v.2 the law of he Spirit sets us free from the death that sin brought (the law of sin is that sin brings death. Adam and Eve didn’t physically die from sin but spiritually. That was the lie the serpent told) v.3_5 the law was powerless to save us, because it was of the flesh. It only regulated morality. The righteousness of the law was fulfilled in those who follow the Spirit instead of their own natural ways. v.7 explains the above by telling us that our natural ways are at enmity with Yahweh v.10_13 If Yah’shua is in us, we die to sin and gain life v.35_39 No external force is capable of separating us from the love of Yahweh. Beware though, that sin does separate us from Him. I would deduce from the skeletal collection of Scriptures I have posted here that the law of death is what we are not under. Sin requires a penalty of death. Yah'shua paid our penalty. He didn't remove the law. What was nailed to the stake was the hand written ordinance of death. Read also Joh 5:45-47 Who accuses? Does that mean what I think it does? |
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49 | John 5:45Does it what you think it does? | Mark 7:19 | Face | 176204 | ||
If he gave us a standard to live by, do you think he is so mean to give us a standard that is impossible to live by? He lived by that standard, thus proving it could be done. Not only that, but he gives the Holy Spirit to empower us to do the same. It's us that shortchanges ourselves to say we can't live it. I'm not sure what you are referencing by Romans 15:4. "For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope." But I agree with it, these things were written for our learning. But from what I see, most churchianity wants to forget the things we are to learn, and it makes me ask why. These things were written for our comfort and hope. Wellbeing in general, actually. ISRV renders that verse "Rom 15:4 For whatever was written before was written for our instruction,1 that through endurance and encouragement of the Scriptures we might have the expectation." Footnote: 1 1Cor. 10:11, 2Tim. 3:14-17. Again, what most churchianity teaches is that the Scriptures that Paul and Yah'shua loved and taught from are relatively invalid now. I've heard people that Yah'shua lived a perfect life, he did it for them so they don't have to. That is mistaken. It was the penalty he paid. Read how important Yah'shua thought keeping the commands was: Mat 19:17 John 14:15 teaches if we don't guard his commands, we don't love him. Remember that he revealed the Father to Moses, and that he and the Father are one. Thus it was him that gave the commands to Moses. 1Cor 7:19 There is a difference between the keeping of the oral traditions and the law of Elohim. Oral tradition is not binding, never was. The commands of Yahweh are binding and expected to be kept. |
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50 | So the law was valid until his death? | Mark 7:19 | Face | 176214 | ||
so then when Yah'shua said that heaven and earth would pass before one jot or tittle passed from the law, are you saying that when he died, that was heaven and earth passing? Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. I don't know about you, but I think that being called least isn't a good thing. Or are you saying he wouldn't destroy them as long as he was alive, but would destroy them at death. Still, heaven and earth are still here, so not the law and prophets? |
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51 | So the law was valid until his death? | Mark 7:19 | Face | 176219 | ||
What's the purpose of studying the rest of it if we can't even get the basics right? Our Saviour and Messiah says one thing clearly. Later we believe somebody who appears to talk out of both sides of his mouth. Somebody is wrong. Who is it? Or is the second person, namely Paul, saying something other than what common churchianity is teaching? Who do you believe, the person who's word last forever, or a bunch of people who have been beating the wrong drum? |
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52 | So the law was valid until his death? | Mark 7:19 | Face | 176222 | ||
Very well, I'll hold my peace on this subject. But I just don't understand why people throw away the base of what all has built on. |
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53 | John 5:45Does it what you think it does? | Mark 7:19 | Face | 176223 | ||
Thank you sir, that is indeed what I'm wanting to do. 2Ti 2:15 Do your utmost to present yourself approved to Elohim, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly handling the Word of Truth. Belief in action :-) |
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54 | So the law was valid until his death? | Mark 7:19 | Face | 176234 | ||
It's not a foolish controversy. A foolish controversy is arguing over how one cuts his hair. Look at the record of how much time Yah'shua put into setting the record straight on Torah. How many times he quoted Moses and the prophets just for you to blow them off. For a Bible study forum, you guys certainly want to avoid large parts of the bible. Makes one wonder why. |
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55 | So the law was valid until his death? | Mark 7:19 | Face | 176235 | ||
It's not a foolish controversy. A foolish controversy is arguing over how one cuts his hair. Look at the record of how much time Yah'shua put into setting the record straight on Torah. How many times he quoted Moses and the prophets just for you to blow them off. For a Bible study forum, you guys certainly want to avoid large parts of the bible. Makes one wonder why. |
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56 | So the law was valid until his death? | Mark 7:19 | Face | 176236 | ||
It's not a foolish controversy. A foolish controversy is arguing over how one cuts his hair. Look at the record of how much time Yah'shua put into setting the record straight on Torah. How many times he quoted Moses and the prophets just for you to blow them off. For a Bible study forum, you guys certainly want to avoid large parts of the bible. Makes one wonder why. |
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57 | So the law was valid until his death? | Mark 7:19 | Face | 176237 | ||
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58 | So the law was valid until his death? | Mark 7:19 | Face | 176249 | ||
I never said it defiles a person to eat unclean meats. Scripture says these things are an abomination, therefore not to be eaten. I realise that food doesn't defile a person. But yet if my creator instructed the prophets to tell me not to eat certain things, I think it's in my best intrest to comply even if I don't understand. |
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59 | So the law was valid until his death? | Mark 7:19 | Face | 176250 | ||
I agree. There was only one thing Yashua said about it has been said that was written in the Torah, and that was the eye for eye, tooth for tooth thing. I suspect that was being taken out of context and abused. Because the context in which the eye for eye was given was a false witness was to bear the penalty eye for eye and tooth for tooth if he was found guilty of bringing false charges against a man. |
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60 | So the law was valid until his death? | Mark 7:19 | Face | 176275 | ||
You are correct on two counts. Exo 21 deals with men fighting and causing enough injury to make a woman deliver prematurely. It appears to do with personal responsibility for one's actions. Lev 24 deals with causing harm to another. It doesn't really reveal the context of the situation whether the harm was on purpose or not. Deut 19 was the particular one I referenced that had to do with bearing false witness |
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