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501 | Is praying to created beings scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62733 | ||
John, We "pray" to other creatures in the archaic Elizabethean sense of asking for something, such as prayers. For "the prayer of righteous man availeth much," and "whereever two or three are gathered in My name and in agreement on a matter..." For example, "I pray thee Sir John, please join with me in praying that all Christians will do all they can to spread the Good News of God's salvation." It is in this sense that we ask the "saints" whether here on earth or in heaven to pray with us. Death does not destroy the communion of saints. We are all still together in the love of Christ. This is not necromancy, where people are asking the dead to come back and impart some hidden knowledge. It is rather asking someone in Christ, here or in heaven, to turn with us toward God in prayer. Have you ever asked anyone here on earth to pray with you or asked them to also pray about a specific matter that you were also praying about? If so , does this violate the priciple of going directly to God as an individual? And is not corporate pray what Christian congregations do when they pray together for their sick members? It is a "both and" understanding of prayer, not an "either or" understanding. Emmaus |
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502 | Is praying to created beings scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62746 | ||
John, "Using your logic one could pray to old Uncle Bob (who we are sure is in heaven because he was such a good man) to intercede on our behalf." That is exactly right John. In fact we might even have asked Uncle Bob to pray for us while he was here among the saints on earth. Why should we stop asking for his prayers when he is even closer to God. Emmaus |
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503 | Please read the 8th verse as well. | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62747 | ||
Neither do I. Could I read every prayer you have ever said in the bible? Saint comes from the Latin root sanctus or holy. Those in heaven, man or angel, are holy by definition since nothing and no one who is not holy can enter heaven. Emmaus |
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504 | Is praying to created beings scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62748 | ||
CDBJ I note you have not addresed my question about corporate prayer and people asking one another for intercessory prayer. Are they violating a rule that we must go directly to God alone? Or are they honoring the fact that we are all in Christ and therefore interceeding for one another through Him, with Him and in Him? The communion of saints is in our union with Christ. Are the dead saints still in Christ? If so we are still in communion with them and can still ask for their prayers just as we do here. I will not bother to quote the numerous passaages to support the practice of Christians praying for one another. Was the Holy Spirit in conflict with the teaching of Jesus on the Our Father when He inspired those other passages? God is the God of the living as Jesus pointed out and the saints who have gone before us are alive with and in Christ and we are "surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses." Emmaus |
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505 | Is praying to created beings scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62752 | ||
Pray: 1. Originally to implore; beseech; entreat... Webster's Anyone who has ever done the above "to" any but God, please stand up and bow you head in shame. Emmaus |
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506 | Is praying to created beings scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62753 | ||
Hank, You are correct in understanding as it applies to the sainst in heaven. Obviously there is abundant scripture for asking the saints here on earth to pray for us and with us. Emmaus |
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507 | Is praying to created beings scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62755 | ||
Glory, I think it is safe to say that if Uncle Bob is in heaven that he has much greater capacities than we do here as he is now a "partaker of His divine nature" in an even more radical way. I think it also safe to say that the saints in heaven pray in conformity to God's will and Christ's prayer as He is ever interceeding for us before the Father. Prayer for one another, here or in heaven, is one way in which we "conform ourselves to Christ." Do you think you mother in heaven loves and cares for you less because she is in the presence of God or more? If we love God, do we not love what and whom He loves even more the closer our relationship with Him becomes? Emmaus |
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508 | Is praying to created beings scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62756 | ||
John, I think I have done enough of a good work for a while in drawing fire away from you and to myself. I think I will now withdraw and let you have eveyone's undivided attention again. ;-) As you alluded in an earlier post, Catholics are even more outnumbered than the unreformed Reformed on this forum. I can only pray for all those saints for support. You at least have Joe and an occasional other supporter who is allowed to post messages since they are still on this side. :-) Emmaus |
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509 | Is praying to created beings scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62762 | ||
Ed, Thanks for your comments. I did not intend to start a thread on this subject when I affirmed CDBJ's post on Michael the angel. I only intended to make a connection between the scriptures being discussed and a particular prayer drawn from them which came to my mind. I should have anticipated the result. I had never really make the conscious connection before. In any case I have stated my belief on the subject and am content to let it stand with the clear expectation that it is not shared by anyone else on this forum. I have never represented myself as an adherent of sola scriptura, though I love and revere the scriptures as the word of God. Emmaus |
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510 | Is praying to created beings scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62776 | ||
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511 | Is praying to created beings scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62777 | ||
Hank I got your point. It just that the Catholic use of English goes back to the very begginings of the language itself and so we sometimes use even the most archaic usages of the word pray as well as the most current. So we use it in more than one meaning. That was the point I was driving home. But enough said, I am trying to escape this thread. Emmaus |
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512 | Is praying to created beings scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62790 | ||
Norrie, You asked:"How does divine relate to us once we're in Heaven?" 2 Peter 1:4 "For by these He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, so that by them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world by lust." Emmaus |
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513 | Need info on Strong's Concordance | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62867 | ||
S.T.D. Sacred Theology Doctorate L.L.D. Legal Doctor, Doctor of Laws |
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514 | Is praying to created beings scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62900 | ||
John, I think my previous posts have already addressed all your questions to the best of my ability. I don't believe anthing I might have to say would sway you. We are simply in disagreement. But be consoled. In this matter everyone else is on your side, not on your case. Emmaus |
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515 | Is praying to created beings scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 62922 | ||
John, I did not say you are against me only that we disagree. Nor do I feel I am being piled up on. I am at peace with the realization that some of my theological views are minority positions on this forum. I usually know which those views are and the general nature of the response expected. For the most part, I find the atmosphere here cordial even in disagreement. Emmaus |
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516 | Cyprian's unity of Catholic Church | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 63537 | ||
It can be found at this link. http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0507.htm |
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517 | Cyprian's unity of Catholic Church | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 63538 | ||
Prayon, Here is another source link to the same Treatise. http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/ANF-05/anf05-111.htm#P6832_2190664 Emmaus |
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518 | gold, frankinsense and myrrh | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 63765 | ||
Wendy, Here is a bit of Commentary on the passage. "It was customary in the ancient near east to offer gifts to a king. The episode evokes Is 60:3,6 where Gentile nations bring gifts of gold and frankencense to the God of Israel(cf Ps 72:10-15). myrrh: An anointing oil used to consecrate Levitical priests and the wilderness tabernacle (Ex 30:23-33). It was also a burial ointment (Jn 19:39-40). Allegorically (St Irenaus, Against Hereises, 2nd century A.D.) the gifts of the Magi signify the mystery of Christ incarnate. Gold, a symbol of royalty, represents the kingship of Jesus. Franinscense, used in the worship of God, points to His divinity. Myrrh, a burial ointment, signifies the humanity of christ, especially in His passion and death. Morally,(St. Gregory the Great, Homily in Evan 10) the treasures signify the gifts we present to Christ in our daily lives. Gold is Christ's wisdom, which shines in us, frankinscense is the prayer and adoration we give Him (cf rev 8:3-40, and myrrh is our daily self-sacrifices (Matt 10:39; cf. Rom 12:1)." Ignatius Catholic Study Bible, The Gospel of Matthew. Ignatius Press, 2000 Emmaus |
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519 | limited protestant? | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 63922 | ||
Johhny, It may help if you understand that the Catholic Liturgical Calender is part of a plan to work through scripture in prayer in an organized manner. The readings from scripture at Mass are on a three years cycle of A, B and C for the Gospels of Matthews, Mark and Luke, with John used heavily every year during the Easter or Resurrection season and also at other times during the year. For example the Scripture readings for Christmas Vigil Mass are: Exodus 16:6-7 Entrance Antiphon Isaiah 62:1-5 Old Testament Reading Psalm 89 Acts 13:16-17, 22-25 New Testament Reading from Epistles, Acts or Revelation. Matt 1:1-25 Gospel reading. Isaiah 40:15 Communion Antiphon There are other different readings for the Midnight Mass, the Mass at dawn and Mass during the Day that cover the other Gospels accounts and scriptures related the birth of Christ. The other Feast Days celebrated in the calender are also related to specific scriptural passages. Emmaus |
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520 | Thanks Emmaus | Bible general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 64404 | ||
Salt, You are welcome. Pleased to be of assistance. Emmaus |
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