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101 | Spirit Baptism | Acts 8:12 | C.S.M. | 155386 | ||
Hi Iktoose, Aug 4, 2005 Sorry I didn’t make myself clear to you, I’ll try again, with both of us agreeing that the Holy Spirit himself will guide us both into the revelation of these scriptures and mutual understanding more completely. My problem used to be that I put all things of scripture into one basket, shook it all up together, then poured it out and tried to make sense out of it. Scripture admonishes us to “rightly divide” the word, then tells us how we can accomplish that process. II Tim 2:15. This verse implies that if the word of God can be rightly divided, it can also be wrongly divided. Salvation, as most of us understand it (i.e. being born again), was not available until AFTER Jesus rose from the dead. The Holy Spirit, also called the anointing, in the Old Testament was only for the prophet, priest and king, of God’s choice. When Jesus declared he must go away so the Holy Spirit could come (in the New Testament) why was this necessary? John 16:17. It is my belief that it was because Jesus, being in the form of man, operating in the earth in total obedience to God the Father, filled the bill of “one obedient man.” Phil 2:5-11. Why was this necessary? God does nothing apart from his word, that is forever settled in heaven (i.e. it never changes, so it puts us in the position of needing change). Psm 119:89. Mankind, starting with the first Adam, was never “absolutely” obedient to God. Jesus was..he stated over and over in the New Testament in various forms of the same thought, “I came to do thy will O God.” John 4:34, 5:30, 6:38, Heb 10:5-10. The purpose of sending the Holy Spirit was, Jesus was confined to one body, his, and could only speak to the people in his presence in that body. The Holy Spirit however is everywhere present, in the whole world, and can speak to all of us at once, if he so desires. When God said, “forget not to communicate” it was not strictly for us, but it is the way he operates himself, communication on the “broad band.” The Holy Spirit, loosed into the earths realm, legally, from God, through Jesus, according to God’s promise in the Old Testament, set the stage for this communication between God and mankind, through the Holy Spirit .Heb 10:14-24, He was sent of God the Father, John 1:33, to Jesus, God the Son, John 1:34,36, to empower believers to believe all that God has written, through chosen men, to mankind, by the guidance of the Holy Spirit into all of God’s word, which is his truth. John 17:17. Acts 1:8. This set the stage for the gospel being preached, and God being able to send the Holy Spirit of truth to enlighten mankind with his words of truth. John 6:63. I John 2:27, 20. Jesus preached John 7:38, “He that believes on me, as the scripture has said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (39) (But this he spoke of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the HOLY GHOST was NOT YET given, (why?) BECAUSE Jesus was not yet glorified.)” Jesus had not yet paid for the sins of the whole world for all eternity future, and sat down at God’s right hand, after God exalted him with the name that is above every name. Eph 1:21. I said all that to show the workings of God, for the benefit of mankind, and the destruction of the devil and his works I John 3:8. What has always been the works of the devil? John 10:10. Separating mankind from God the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, starting with the garden of Eden, in any way he can, keeping them in a state of ignoring God, rejecting God, or refusing to believe that God exists! Baptism: Ask yourself, is there a difference between natural water baptism and supernatural baptism with the Holy Spirit? Is natural water different from the supernatural Holy Spirit? John stated there is definitely a difference. John 1:26, 31, Luke 7:29, Acts 1:5. John was baptizing with water unto repentance (toward God, for sins committed against God, themselves and others). Jesus said, “For John truely baptized with WATER, but you shall be baptized WITH THE HOLY GHOST....” Jesus himself told us there is a difference between baptism with water and baptism with the Holy Ghost.. Acts 1:5 “The baptism of the supernatural Holy Spirit was for power from God to witness of God’s truth all over the world. Acts 1:8. The natural water baptism was for the repentance of sins.” Is the Holy Spirit the instrument used of God to put us into the body of Christ, called the church? I Cor 12:13, Eph 1:22-23..most definitely. Here it is helpful to recognize another fact. In the Old Testament, from God’s viewpoint, there were only two classes of people. Jew and Gentile (Gentiles were also known as the nations.) When Jesus came, in the New Testament, he came to create another class of people, called the church, from God’s viewpoint. See next post....C.S.M. |
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102 | Spirit Baptism | Acts 8:12 | C.S.M. | 155387 | ||
Hi Iktoose, Aug 4, 2005..rest of the answer Ask yourself, if Jew and Gentile were the whole of all mankind, where is God going to get this third class of people called the church? The obvious answer is, from the whole pool of people, the Jews and the Gentiles. I Cor 10:12, Eph 2:13-16. Back to Baptism: Again who was going to baptize mankind to be witnesses of God to all the world? John 1:33-36 God had told John that Jesus was sent to baptize with the Holy Spirit! Acts 1:8 said this baptism from Jesus, sent from God the Father, was power from God, through the Holy Ghost, to be witnesses to God the Father, and this baptism was NOT done by any man, it was done by the Lord Jesus Christ himself. Jesus is the baptizer with the Holy Ghost. John 1:33. There is a definite difference in water baptism done by a minister, a human being, and Jesus, the Son of God, baptizing a person with the Holy Spirit. Thus the story of Matt 7:9 by Jesus himself...”What man is there of you, whom if his SON ask bread, will he give him a stone? (10) Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? (11) If you then, being evil (unjust, merciless, prideful, disobedient Micah 6:8 the opposite of good) know how to give GOOD (just, merciful, humble, obedient Micah 6:8) gifts unto your children, HOW MUCH MORE shall your Father in heaven give good things to them that ASK him?” Do you suppose Jesus baptizing a person with the Holy Spirit is a good gift from his Father God to mankind? Yes, there is a two fold baptism, outlined in these scriptures, for two different purposes, In the examples given and in the original question. You see, in Acts 8:12, the baptism of repentance first spoken of by John the Baptist. In Acts 8:14-17 you see Jesus, through Peter and John, baptizing them with the Holy Spirit and power, as God said he would, after he was risen from the dead and seated at God’s own right hand. John 1:33, Acts 1:5. Who is this for? Acts 2:38-39 Peter said..repent, and be baptized in the name (or into the name) of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and you shall receive the GIFT of the Holy Ghost. (39) For the promise (of the Holy Ghost baptism by Jesus) is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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103 | Spirit Baptism | Acts 8:12 | C.S.M. | 155388 | ||
Hi Iktoose, 8-4-05 rest of the answer. Ask yourself, if Jew and Gentile were the whole of all mankind, where is God going to get this third class of people called the church? The obvious answer is, from the whole pool of people, the Jews and the Gentiles. I Cor 10:12, Eph 2:13-16. Back to Baptism: Again who was going to baptize mankind to be witnesses of God to all the world? John 1:33-36 God had told John that Jesus was sent to baptize with the Holy Spirit! Acts 1:8 said this baptism from Jesus, sent from God the Father, was power from God, through the Holy Ghost, to be witnesses to God the Father, and this baptism was NOT done by any man, it was done by the Lord Jesus Christ himself. Jesus is the baptizer with the Holy Ghost. John 1:33. There is a definite difference in water baptism done by a minister, a human being, and Jesus, the Son of God, baptizing a person with the Holy Spirit. Thus the story of Matt 7:9 by Jesus himself...”What man is there of you, whom if his SON ask bread, will he give him a stone? (10) Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? (11) If you then, being evil (unjust, merciless, prideful, disobedient Micah 6:8 the opposite of good) know how to give GOOD (just, merciful, humble, obedient Micah 6:8) gifts unto your children, HOW MUCH MORE shall your Father in heaven give good things to them that ASK him?” Do you suppose Jesus baptizing a person with the Holy Spirit is a good gift from his Father God to mankind? Yes, there is a two fold baptism, outlined in these scriptures, for two different purposes, In the examples given and in the original question. You see, in Acts 8:12, the baptism of repentance first spoken of by John the Baptist. In Acts 8:14-17 you see Jesus, through Peter and John, baptizing them with the Holy Spirit and power, as God said he would, after he was risen from the dead and seated at God’s own right hand. John 1:33, Acts 1:5. Who is this for? Acts 2:38-39 Peter said..repent, and be baptized in the name (or into the name) of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and you shall receive the GIFT of the Holy Ghost. (39) For the promise (of the Holy Ghost baptism by Jesus) is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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104 | Spirit Baptism | Acts 8:12 | C.S.M. | 155389 | ||
Hi Mark, To God be all the glory..thank you for your kind words. Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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105 | Spirit Baptism | Acts 8:12 | C.S.M. | 155431 | ||
Hi Iktoose, Yes, the Holy Spirit comes and baptizes you into the body of Christ. The body of Christ did not exist until God sent the Holy Spirit when Jesus was exalted at his right hand. Yes, when a person asks Jesus into their heart, it is the Holy Spirits work to put them into the body of Christ (refer to the previous scripture given in the last post.) It is also the Holy Spirit that empowers them to be witnesses, or perhaps another way to say it is, fills them with Himself and gives them utterance, so they can speak to God in a heavenly language, by the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:4, And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, AND began to speak with tongues, (how?) as the (Holy) Spirit gave them utterance (or speach). Again Jesus said that was to empower believers Acts 1:8, and as you study the happenings when the apostles laid hands on people that same thing happened to them. It is what God told John would come, AFTER the Holy Ghost was dispatched to earth, AFTER Jesus went back to heaven. God didn't tell them everything. But Peter, whom Jesus said, had the KEYS to the kingdom of heaven, discerned what was happening. He recognized it was the fulfilling of Joel 2:28 where God had prophesied through Joel that this would happen in the future. Little did he know it would be thousands of years until that time. That was none of his business, it was God's, and he, as a prophet, had learned that God says some things that are pertinent to the day and also to thousands of years later. There is a five fold ministry, God set in the church, Eph 4:11 He gave some (not all) apostles, SOME prophets, SOME evangelists, SOME pastors and SOME teachers. Note he didn't say everyone would do those things.. Think about it, if everyone was doing the same thing, who would you minister to? Think of Israel, God chose one twelveth of the whole nation to be priest, not all 12 tribes! It's the same with the five fold ministry..Some, not all, are put in the offices. For what purpose? Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the building up of the body of Christ. Jesus was the first body builder. Arnold Swartznigger doesn't even hold a candle to Jesus :) Oops, being wordy again...sorry... No, all people do not have the same job from God. It is God's choice who is an apostle, etc, it is not just because a person decides to "be" an apostle. It doesn't work that way. Hope this is not to wordy...and we are on the same page. There is a work of the Holy Spirit in putting us into the body of Christ, there is a second work of the Holy Spirit to equip the church for ministry "TO" the body of Christ. Isn't that what the Apostles were doing? And yes, water baptism is an outward testimony to all people that your allegience is to Jesus Christ, but that the work has already been done BEFORE you were baptized. An outward show, of an inward change. The new creature God created is what saves you, the baptism is Johns, of repentance, water baptism, not this baptism for service. Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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106 | Dear Doc Isa 14:8 | Acts 10:38 | C.S.M. | 154596 | ||
Dear Doc, Another passage is Isaiah 14:4 as some scholars state that in scripture when the prophet was speaking of "a king" over a nation it refers to the demonic force controlling the "prince" which we would call a king on earth, of that nation. The scripture many times speaks of a natural kingdom and the spiritual kingdom that controls that kingdom..The criteria of that statement is Ro 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom you eield yourselves servants to obey his servants you are to whom you obey; whether of sin unto death or of obedience unto righteousness. Do we agree that satan is the author of sin as Jesus is the author of faith? In that context all of mankind is either serving God or satan. That also agrees with Eph 2:1-3 with the descriptive terms used for satan as "prince of the power of the air", "the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience", these children are also called "the children of wrath" which I discern are those who have obeyed satan "also called wrath," rather than God. We realize the battle between God and satan is the battle for the minds, wills and emotions, or souls of mankind. Isaiah 14:4 (knowing that satan is the oppressor)in the spiritual realm, and the ruler of Babylon was obeying him, we realize that Isa 14:8 is talking about the final defeat of satan,"Since you are laid down, no feller (human being) is come up against us." II Tim 3:16 tells us ALL scripture is given by inspriation of God....so whatever is written is given directly from God's throne, whether it was spoken from the lips of Jesus or inspired by The Holy Spirit or written by the writers of the Old and New Testaments. God is eternal and he had the whole book written over centuries by different "pencils" aka known as prophets, priests and kings, apostles etc. Of course you are right, it was not a direct quote from Jesus, but by the inspirataion of God through Peter, when he went under God's direction to the house of Cornelius, and the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word..Acts 10:44..and part of that word was Acts 10:38. Peter was on his mission commanded of God, and he was reciting the works of God, "how GOD anointed Jesus with THE HOLY GHOST and POWER who went about doing good and HEALING all that were oppressed of the devil." Acts 10:38 Matt 4:23 and 9:35 states the three fold plan of the ministry of Jesus: Teaching, Preaching, and Healing. As we read the gospels these are the three things he did continually. He is our example and we are to do John 14:10, 12, Jesus declared that it was "the Father in me,..he doeth the works" then promptly states "He that believes on me, the works that I do shall he do also, and greater works than these shall he do because I go to my Father." The church today is supposed to be doing these things like Jesus said, and to do that a person has to realize where the oppression comes from, and when satan is laid down, there won't be any more oppression. God is not the oppressor, mankind, without satan's influence, won't be fighting each other any more or oppressing according to Isa 14:8. C.S.M. |
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107 | God is the winner. THE TRUTH! | Acts 10:38 | C.S.M. | 154644 | ||
response:Doc CSM If killing, stealing and destroying is not sin then satan is not the author of sin! If killing, stealing and destroying is sin, then satan "IS" the author of sin! John 10:10 If lieing is a sin, then satan is the author of sin. John 8:44 Jesus stated, "You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode NOT IN THE TRUTH, because there is NO TRUTH in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own; for HE IS A LIAR, and the FATHER of it." That agrees with John 10:10 You don't have to agree with me about the subject but it would behoove you to agree with Jesus! I conclude by the Masters own word, satan is the author of sin! A liar! A killer! A destroyer! A thief! Jesus also said, John 8:47 "He that is OF GOD hears God's words: you therefore hear them not, because you are not of God." Remember Jesus said John 17:17 "(God) your WORDS are TRUTH." God's word is Gods' truth, and it is Gods' truth, his word only, that will set mankind free. John 8:31-32 according to Jesus Christ, MY savior! Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no man comes to the Father except by Him. John 14:6 Personally Ro 3:4 that states: "let God be true and EVERY MAN a liar" be my guide. I believe what God has said is current truth, not past, not future, for every person born on this planet. It could be a thousand years from now when someone would pick up the Bible and read God's words and they would be just as relevant to that person as they were to the "first" Adam, people now, or any person in the future. Why? God never changes, He is the truth, and truth never changes, He is right, He's the winner! CSM |
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108 | Be blessed | Acts 10:38 | C.S.M. | 154724 | ||
Dear Doc, If the scripture sent does not show the originator of sin as satan and mankind fell from the yielding to his doctrine, then You'll just have to grow more in the Lord to be able to see it. I just agree to disagree with your argument that there has been nothing shown to prove that. My feelings are not in this discussion.. but when your ears and heart are closed there's nothing anyone can do to show you the truth of God's word. I know God is merciful and he will show you in his own time if you will ask him. After all he is the best teacher in the universe. Until then just stay in the word and it has been interesting to visit with you. Do realize that God will make a man more precious than gold through his teaching, and I find it very sobering for myself, to stand before God and I proved the point several times but when they are refused, there is nothing more that can be said until more growth comes to the listener. The Holy Spirit is the guide into all the truth and he is more than enough for each of us to be led in the way he chooses for us. Just a little note in this last post. Have you ever looked up all the scripture in the Epistles relative to Christ with statements, IN him, In whom, by him, with him, by whom etc. It is an eye opener as to what the body of Christ, the church, has IN Him. Be blessed. Always In Christ, C.S.M. |
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109 | Be Blessed | Acts 10:38 | C.S.M. | 154727 | ||
Kylos, neither presumption or arrogance, just different perspectives that are not agreed upon. And it is my experience that this walk with Christ is a life long adventure, we will all be growing and learning through out the process. No offence intended. Evidently not expressed well. Be blessed Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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110 | Always in Christ | Acts 10:38 | C.S.M. | 154728 | ||
Mark, Thanks for your suggestion, and the grace with which you stated it. Be Blessed, Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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111 | :) so right | Acts 10:38 | C.S.M. | 154766 | ||
Dear Hank, You are so right brother. C.S.M. :) |
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112 | Lifting hands worship Yes/No? Acts 17:25 | Acts 17:25 | C.S.M. | 155829 | ||
Dear Geebers50, Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things in it, seeing that he is Lord (G.supreme authority) of heaven AND earth, dwells not in temples made with hands. Ask yourself is there a difference between heaven and earth? Ask if there is a difference between The Spiritual things of God, and the natural things of mankind? The who, what, when, where, how, and why questions will be helpful in your search. John 4:24 tells us "God is a Spirit, and they that worship him MUST worship him in Spirit and in truth." Ask: How do I worship God in Spirit? How do I worship God in truth? One major clue is John 17:17, John 8:31-32 Psalms 149:1-9, Psalms 150:1-6...tells us exactly how to worship, where the praises should be, what the praises do, where the praises are done, what to praise him about, what kind of musical instruments to use, if you are supposed to move around when you do praise him, and how many things are to praise the Lord. This is spiritual praise, in the psalms, for God alone. It is not the kind that was afforded to human kings by servants with their human (or natural) hands and motives. After you read it, you decide. Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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113 | Who are the just? What is Faith? | Rom 3:26 | C.S.M. | 157071 | ||
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114 | Who are the just? What is Faith? | Rom 3:26 | C.S.M. | 157084 | ||
Hi BradK, Ro 3:26 is talking about God. Are you saying that the statement "the just shall live by faith" is talking of God? Don't you understand it to mean mankind? Ro 5:1 Says we are justified (freed) by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. God is grace, Jesus is Faith which produces peace. Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Now Jesus is the substance of things hope for, and Jesus is the evidence of things not seen. We are to Look unto Jesus the author (margin says; beginner) and finisher (completer) of our faith; Heb 12:2 To believe is to obey according to James 1:22 The real definition of faith is Heb 11:6 But without faith (Jesus) it is impossible to please (God): for he that comes to God MUST believe (1) that he is (or God exists), and (2)that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Prov 13:13 Whoso despises the word shall be destroyed: but he that fears the commanment shall be rewarded. God's word is tied to rewards. Our diligence in taking God at his word, which is his faith, his word, that becomes our faith, will be rewarded richly. Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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115 | Who are the just? What is Faith? | Rom 3:26 | C.S.M. | 157099 | ||
Hi BradK, You asked: Out of curiosity, might I ask you on what basis you state, "God is grace, Jesus is Faith which produces peace?" I ask because I haven't seen that specific distinction in scripture nor have I heard it used before in such a manner:-) My reply is: For by Grace you are saved, through faith, and that not of yourself, it is the gift of God. Eph 2:8 Isn't it God, through Jesus, that saves any human being, and salvation is God's gift to mankind! John 3:16 For God so loved the world, he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. Jesus is described as "faith" in Ro 9:30-33.. What shall we say then? That the Gentiles (those people who had no covenant with God( called the nations) as did the Jews)which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righeousness, even the righteousness which is OF faith. (31) But Israel (God's covenant people), which followed after the LAW of righteousness, have not attained to the LAW of righteousness. (32) why? Because they sought it not by FAITH, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that STUMBLINGSTONE; (33) as it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a STUMBLINGSTONE and ROCK OF OFFENCE; and whosoever believes on HIM (Jesus) shall not be ashamed (margin: confounded). This verse calls faith, that stumblingstone, and rock of offence, then gives this description of faith a gender, by calling faith "him", which we know to be Jesus I Peter 2:6-8 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believed on "HIM" shall not be confounded (Isa 28:16). (7) Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, (8) and a stone of STUMBLING, and a ROCK OF OFFENCE, even to them which stumble at THE WORD being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. Peter, Paul and Mary, all knew Jesus was faith. The knew Jesus is the "Living" Word..John 1:1-4 Another evidence? Heb 12:2 Look unto Jesus the author (margin: beginner) and finisher of our faith: I say Jesus is the source, the developer, and the finisher of mankinds faith. He doesn't just have faith, he is faith, the source of all faith from God the Father. The obvious then would be that God is the Source, the developer, and the finisher, of all that he wants to do in mankind, which is his Grace. He doesn't just have some grace, he is the source of grace! In the highest sense, without a source, mankind would have nothing. Without God, we are nothing. Without God nothing, as we know this earth, knowledge, wisdom, etc., would not exist. John 16:13-15..the Spirit of Truth (the Holy Ghost) has come...he is guiding into all the truth..he says what he hears form God the Father...he shows believers things to come...He glorifies Jesus..he receives everything from Jesus and shows it to us..Jesus then said, All things that the FATHER has is MINE: therefore I said, he (the Holy Spirit) shall take of mine (which are all things that belong to the Father God. Ask yourself, what and how much that is.), and shall show it unto you. (You who? Believers!) If you can't shout about that, your knower is turned off, and your wood is to wet to catch on fire for God! :) Jesus is the "express image of God", Heb 1:3, they think, speak and do exacly alike. "When you've seen the Father, you've seen me" John 14:9 So whatever God is, Jesus is, whatever God and Jesus is, the Holy Ghost is...I John 5:7..they are one...in Spirit and in truth John 4:24...the best part is that Jesus prayed to the Father..John 17:21 That THEY (all believers corporately and individually) may be one; (how? in thought, word and deed); as you Father, are in me, and I in you, that THEY (believers in Christ) also may be one in US (God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost), EVEN AS we are one....(23) and have loved them AS you have loved me. (How did God love Jesus? Completely! In thought, word and deed! We are to love each other in thought, word and deed.) God is grace, Jesus is Faith, The Holy Spirit is the power of God. Acts 1:8 Acts acrostic: A.ctive C.hristians T.errorizing S.atan. Glory to God!!! Jesus gave us "his" peace..John 14:27-31 Always in Chirst, C.S.M. |
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116 | Who are the just? What is Faith? | Rom 3:26 | C.S.M. | 157119 | ||
BradK, 1. Is that not the actual process God uses? Is it not God that saves you through Christ? If God doesn't save you, through Christ's finished work on the cross, who did? Eph 2:8 2. Ro 9:30-33 Whose law was it? Why was it called the law of righteousness? Who had the law written? Was it Moses? Was it God? Is God the source of the law? Is it his standards? If not whose standards are they, and why if it is not God, is it called the law of righteousness? Isn't God the source of all righeousness? Then it continues to say righteousness is of faith. Where do you say that righteousness originated, with whom, for what purpose? Was there a plan, or pursuit? If so, of whom was it speaking? It continues to say Israel followed the law of righeousness, but did not attain to the law of righeousness, why was that, and who were they following? Whose law were they following called "the law of righteousness?" Isn't it called God's commandments? Isn't God righteous in your understanding? Isn't the law of righteousness speaking about the law of God himself? Is there a law without God that mankind is to adhere to? I do not find these issues to be novel, perhaps you do, and I take no offence? 3. Please define your meaning of Modalism since there are many levels of meanings. Again It is God Eph 1:7, states In whom (Christ) we have redemption (forgiveness) through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his (God's) grace; How do you read this passage, if not in the manner just stated? The verse itself tells us redemption is the forgiveness of sins, and if words mean anything you know of whom it is speaking? Are you saying God does not have Grace, faith or Love, and those things are not the character and nature of God? Jesus himself said Acts 1:8 you shall receive power AFTER the Holy Ghost comes upon you...isn't Jesus saying the Holy Spirit is the power source, since it doesn't come to pass until after the Holy Ghost comes upon a person? Doesn't words describe before and after, quanity and quality, source and supply, power or the lack thereof? You do not seem a stranger to words and their meaning, except when it comes to scripture. You know that words have more than one meaning in your natural life, and seem not to have any problem expressing the levels of difference without going over board. Yet with scripture you take it and it's like cement, thourghly mixed up and permanently set, all aschew? I definitely think there is total misunderstanding in this discussion. I once heard a description of Christian growth that makes sense. "Christian growth is like natural growth, when you are first born again, you are like a baby, needing care for food, clothes, shelter, totally helpless and somewhat like a baby bird that will open it's mouth and swallow anything that comes close to it. As that person begins to grow in the word of God, they pass through the stages of crawl, toddler, pre-school, kindergarden, adolensence, teen, young adult, adult, growing maturity. That fits what I have seen, and allows the difference of understandings to be without argument, harshness, superiority, or condescending. After all do we not expect different things from different levels of human growth. Aren't we more willing to supply a baby with what they need, even though they are wailing away. Yet if an adult is acting in that manner are we so tolerant? I'm not interested in arguing, it's a useless exercise. I am interested in learning more about my Lord and helping others to understand his love, grace and truth. Yes, you have misunderstood, and I hope this has clarified the issues. Always in Christ, C.S.M. |
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117 | how do you explain romans 9:13? | Rom 9:13 | C.S.M. | 155407 | ||
Aug 5, 2005 Hi Neal Green, To understand this I used Eph 1:6, God's acceptance of any human being, from his viewpoint, is "always in Christ" and it is called his grace. So God's grace is his acceptance of us in Christ Jesus. This is what theologians call "being born again", I call it a.s.k. and you shall receive...John 14:13-14, John 3:16-17. I John 4:8..God is love, he doesn't just have love, he IS LOVE. He is the only source there is of love and we draw from his source, God himself. The definition of Love, which is the essence and character of God is I Cor 13:4-8. Here it is translated "charity" but the Greek concordance says "love". Love is a person, God himself, and love manifests himself in the actions of I Cor 13:4-8 and verse 8 tells us Love "always" succeeds!!! (never fails but always succeeds ) Isn't that just like God! The opposite of love then is hate which is the nature and character of satan. Yes, I know God said he hated Esau. That is another way to say he "rejected" Esau, because Esau, rejected God and his thoughts, words and deeds, his provision for the first born of the family and Esau sold his God given birthright for a piece of bread! That's contempt isn't it? God will not force anyone to serve or love him. It is a voluntary obedience by mankind toward God, because they realize the treasure that God himself is to us. I John 1:5 says God is light! He doesn't just have a light, he is the source of light and in him is no DARKNESS at all. Love is the opposite of hatred. God is Light. Light is the opposite of darkness. Satan is darkness. I John 2:9 He that says he is in the light (i.e. God himself) and hates his brother, is in darkness (i.e. satan) even until now. Light and darkness have nothing in common! Darkness or hatred is not of God, it is of satan! I John 1:5 God is light (i.e. love)and "in him" is no darkness (i.e. hatred) at all! Esau rejected his opportunity to know God, who is light, who is love. God didn't do it to him, he did it to himself. Esau rejected and hated God who is, light, love, and life! John 1:4 Always In Christ, C.S.M. |
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118 | Why does God love Jacob but reject Esau? | Rom 9:13 | C.S.M. | 155410 | ||
Dear Yellow Jasmine, Aug 5, 2005 Hi Neal Green, To understand this I used Eph 1:6, God's acceptance of any human being, from his viewpoint, is "always in Christ" and it is called his grace. So God's grace is his acceptance of us in Christ Jesus. This is what theologians call "being born again", I call it a.s.k. and you shall receive...John 14:13-14, John 3:16-17. I John 4:8..God is love, he doesn't just have love, he IS LOVE. He is the only source there is of love and we draw from his source, God himself. The definition of Love, which is the essence and character of God is I Cor 13:4-8. Here it is translated "charity" but the Greek concordance says "love". Love is a person, God himself, and love manifests himself in the actions of I Cor 13:4-8 and verse 8 tells us Love "always" succeeds!!! (never fails but always succeeds ) Isn't that just like God! The opposite of love then is hate which is the nature and character of satan. Yes, I know God said he hated Esau. That is another way to say he "rejected" Esau, because Esau, rejected God and his thoughts, words and deeds, his provision for the first born of the family and Esau sold his God given birthright for a piece of bread! That's contempt isn't it? God will not force anyone to serve or love him. It is a voluntary obedience by mankind toward God, because they realize the treasure that God himself is to us. I John 1:5 says God is light! He doesn't just have a light, he is the source of light and in him is no DARKNESS at all. Love is the opposite of hatred. God is Light. Light is the opposite of darkness. Satan is darkness. I John 2:9 He that says he is in the light (i.e. God himself) and hates his brother, is in darkness (i.e. satan) even until now. Light and darkness have nothing in common! Darkness or hatred is not of God, it is of satan! I John 1:5 God is light (i.e. love)and "in him" is no darkness (i.e. hatred) at all! Esau rejected his opportunity to know God, who is light, who is love. God didn't do it to him, he did it to himself. Esau rejected and hated God who is, light, love, and life! John 1:4 Always In Christ, C.S.M. |
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119 | God dosn't love everybody???? | Rom 9:13 | C.S.M. | 155411 | ||
Dear doyle, Aug 5, 2005 Hi Neal Green, To understand this I used Eph 1:6, God's acceptance of any human being, from his viewpoint, is "always in Christ" and it is called his grace. So God's grace is his acceptance of us in Christ Jesus. This is what theologians call "being born again", I call it a.s.k. and you shall receive...John 14:13-14, John 3:16-17. I John 4:8..God is love, he doesn't just have love, he IS LOVE. He is the only source there is of love and we draw from his source, God himself. The definition of Love, which is the essence and character of God is I Cor 13:4-8. Here it is translated "charity" but the Greek concordance says "love". Love is a person, God himself, and love manifests himself in the actions of I Cor 13:4-8 and verse 8 tells us Love "always" succeeds!!! (never fails but always succeeds ) Isn't that just like God! The opposite of love then is hate which is the nature and character of satan. Yes, I know God said he hated Esau. That is another way to say he "rejected" Esau, because Esau, rejected God and his thoughts, words and deeds, his provision for the first born of the family and Esau sold his God given birthright for a piece of bread! That's contempt isn't it? God will not force anyone to serve or love him. It is a voluntary obedience by mankind toward God, because they realize the treasure that God himself is to us. I John 1:5 says God is light! He doesn't just have a light, he is the source of light and in him is no DARKNESS at all. Love is the opposite of hatred. God is Light. Light is the opposite of darkness. Satan is darkness. I John 2:9 He that says he is in the light (i.e. God himself) and hates his brother, is in darkness (i.e. satan) even until now. Light and darkness have nothing in common! Darkness or hatred is not of God, it is of satan! I John 1:5 God is light (i.e. love)and "in him" is no darkness (i.e. hatred) at all! Esau rejected his opportunity to know God, who is light, who is love. God didn't do it to him, he did it to himself. Esau rejected and hated God who is, light, love, and life! John 1:4 Always In Christ, C.S.M. |
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120 | God dosn't love everybody???? | Rom 9:13 | C.S.M. | 155412 | ||
The correct question to ask is: Do all people love God? Aug 5, 2005 Hi Doyle, To understand this I used Eph 1:6, God's acceptance of any human being, from his viewpoint, is "always in Christ" and it is called his grace. So God's grace is his acceptance of us in Christ Jesus. This is what theologians call "being born again", I call it a.s.k. and you shall receive...John 14:13-14, John 3:16-17. I John 4:8..God is love, he doesn't just have love, he IS LOVE. He is the only source there is of love and we draw from his source, God himself. The definition of Love, which is the essence and character of God is I Cor 13:4-8. Here it is translated "charity" but the Greek concordance says "love". Love is a person, God himself, and love manifests himself in the actions of I Cor 13:4-8 and verse 8 tells us Love "always" succeeds!!! (never fails but always succeeds ) Isn't that just like God! The opposite of love then is hate which is the nature and character of satan. Yes, I know God said he hated Esau. That is another way to say he "rejected" Esau, because Esau, rejected God and his thoughts, words and deeds, his provision for the first born of the family and Esau sold his God given birthright for a piece of bread! That's contempt isn't it? God will not force anyone to serve or love him. It is a voluntary obedience by mankind toward God, because they realize the treasure that God himself is to us. I John 1:5 says God is light! He doesn't just have a light, he is the source of light and in him is no DARKNESS at all. Love is the opposite of hatred. God is Light. Light is the opposite of darkness. Satan is darkness. I John 2:9 He that says he is in the light (i.e. God himself) and hates his brother, is in darkness (i.e. satan) even until now. Light and darkness have nothing in common! Darkness or hatred is not of God, it is of satan! I John 1:5 God is light (i.e. love)and "in him" is no darkness (i.e. hatred) at all! Esau rejected his opportunity to know God, who is light, who is love. God didn't do it to him, he did it to himself. Esau rejected and hated God who is, light, love, and life! John 1:4 Always In Christ, C.S.M. |
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