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301 | GeneralWas and Bill Mc? | Bible general Archive 1 | Bill Mc | 14608 | ||
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302 | Sir Pent and GeneralWas, notice please. | Bible general Archive 1 | Bill Mc | 14607 | ||
GeneralWas, thanks for your confirmation. To make your search easier, the web site link is www.christinyou.net You make a very good point about the "search for truth." To me, truth is what God says. God says that we would know it because the Spirit would take the things of Christ and make them known to us. There are many wonderful Christian brothers and sisters that post on this forum. But there is also a tendency for some to reply to questions with a 'cut and paste' answer from their commentaries. While I agree that a commentary can be a great tool, it can also become a crutch. As you said, the Holy Spirit will lead us into all truth of scripture interpretation as we rely on Him to reveal the meaning. In my opinion, many Christians know what scripture SAYS but they are clueless as to what it MEANS to them because they rely on the theologians and commentaries first instead of letting the Spirit and other scripture interpret scripture. Continue to be a Berean and thanks for your reply. In Christ, Bill Mc |
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303 | Sir Pent and GeneralWas, notice please. | Bible general Archive 1 | Bill Mc | 14549 | ||
Sir Pent, there was no offense taken whatsoever. Please don't feel that I've taken any. I just wanted to make it very clear that I have no ties with GeneralWas (as far as I know). To be honest, that link was forwarded to me from another forum poster and I have not even read anything on it concerning Fowler's theory of the Trinity. The Trinity issue, for me, is something that I (rightly or wrongly) have never been able to comepletely understand and I accept it as fact by faith. Go in grace, brother. In Christ, Bill Mc |
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304 | Could Jesus sin? Explain. | Heb 4:15 | Bill Mc | 14525 | ||
Steve, Jesus could not sin. The ultimate root of all sin is unbelief in God and what He says. Scripture makes it clear that 'anything that is not of faith (believing what God says) is sin.' Or check out what Christ said in John 16:8,9 - Jesus said that when the Holy Spirit comes, He will convict the world of sin. He then defines that sin in verse 9 - "because they do not believe in Me." Sins (wrong actions or attitudes or lack of them by omission) are always caused by a wrong belief about what God says. Adam and Eve sinned (action) because they chose not to believe what God said about the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. And they chose, instead, to believe what Satan told them. So, could Jesus sin? No. He was fully human and fully God. God cannot sin because it is contrary to His very essence. That what be like saying, "Can God disbelieve what God says?" It makes no sense. Jesus could not, as a man, disbelieve what the Father said, or commit a sin because He was one with His Father. Of course, Satan's primary objective is to get people to disbelieve what God says or to twist it into a half-truth (which is still a lie). And he is very successful at it. Nevertheless, Christ said, "You will know the truth (what God says) and the truth will set you free (in both belief system and actions). Thanks for the question. It's a good one. In Christ, Bill Mc |
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305 | Sir Pent and GeneralWas, notice please. | Bible general Archive 1 | Bill Mc | 14515 | ||
Sir Pent and GeneralWas, I'm responding to this thread in order to clarify a possible misconception - mainly because my online ID was used. If you have read any of my postings, you'll find that, except for scripture, I refrain as much as possible from "cut and paste" responses. I feel that if I can't explain my opinion with my own words or thoughts, then I should not respond to a question. Your question seems to imply that possibly GeneralWas and Bill Mc are the same person. I assure you, they are not. Unfortunately, there is no profile for GeneralWas so I couldn't email him. While, I did post the link in a previous thread (responding to a question from JVH0212) I will not "copy and paste" theological points of view to this forum. In fact, if you check some of my prior discussions with other members, you'll see that I have asked others to use that technique sparingly. I would also NEVER create a false online ID to mask my identity. GeneralWas, could you please confirm this? Christians on this forum can follow the link as curiosity and the Spirit leads. In Christ, Bill Mc |
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306 | What are the provisions of the NC? | Rom 7:4 | Bill Mc | 14434 | ||
Steve, I agree, the New Covenant is with His Church, which is made up of born-again Jews and Gentiles. But where did the gospel first go? To the Jew, who (as a nation) rejected it. So it was then taken to the Gentiles. And the main provisions for this New Covenant are found in Hebrews 10:16-18 - God writes His laws (plural) not Law (Mosaic) upon our hearts and minds. And He remembers on sins no more. Also, reitterated in Hebrews 8:12-13 - He is merciful to our sins, and He remembers them no more. Verse 13 says that the first covenant (Mosaic) has been made obsolete. We are no longer under that Old Covenant. And, when Christ returns, the nation of Israel will recognize Him as Messiah and the New Covenant will then be brought to fruition. If you are resting in this Covenant, Steve, then your standing before God should not be a struggle. In Christ, Bill Mc |
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307 | What are the provisions of the NC? | Rom 7:4 | Bill Mc | 14429 | ||
That's true. Unfortunately our Bibles put the NEW TESTAMENT heading before the gospels when it should be before Acts. Christ taught under the Old Covenant (law) but proclaimed that the New was coming. (No, all other readers, this does not affect the inerrancy of the Bible) Steve, do you know what the provisions of the New Covenant are? In Christ, Bill Mc |
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308 | Will you enter God's rest? | Rom 7:4 | Bill Mc | 14418 | ||
Dear Steve, I do understand what you are saying. I was bound for 30 years, as you say, 'trying to obey them ALL.' And, you're right, brother, it is a struggle. Always trying to keep short accounts with God, even though God had said that the account was 'paid in full - it is finished.' If you are being honest with yourself, you KNOW that you can't obey them all. No one ever has EXCEPT Christ. He fulfilled ALL of the Law. Then, He caused us, through our union with Him, to die to it. Why? Because we are now joined to Him. Brother, I love you in the Lord. I have been where you are now. You're right - under law, the Christian life is a struggle. But Christ said, "My yoke is EASY, My burden is LIGHT. Come to me and you will find REST (not struggle) for your soul." Would you describe your Christian life as easy, light, and restful? I couldn't. After 30 years, I felt no more 'perfected' than the day I began my walk with Christ. I could still think the same sinful thoughts and act out the same sinful patterns of my 'old man.' I was miserable. I, too, wanted to obey all the laws of God. I knew that they were holy, good, and righteous. But I couldn't find LIFE there. Scripture says that no law was ever given which could IMPART LIFE or righteousness. All the Law could do was show me my sinfulness. I was like Paul in Romans 7. I wanted to obey with all my heart but I always, somewhere, fell short. No matter how much I repented and confessed my sins, no matter how much I attended church, no matter how much I prayed, no matter how much I tithed, no matter how much I witnessed, no matter how many times I rededicated myself (I wore my rededicator out), I NEVER felt like I measured up to the Christian I ought to be. In frustration, I was ready to bail out, and I cried, "What a wretch I am!" Then, through a series of events, and the help of some wonderful Christians, I began to understand my identity in Christ. Christ, my brother, is the ONLY one who can ever live the Christian life as it is meant to be lived. He alone is acceptable to God. Through are spiritual union with Him, we are MADE acceptable and righteous before God. At our deepest level of being, our spirit has been joined to Christ's Spirit. That is how the scripture can say we HAVE BEEN (past tense) perfected. As I now live by His Spirit (remember, it is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me), I am BEING perfected (present tense) in my soul (my behavior). And, one day I WILL BE perfected (future tense) COMPLETELY, spirit, soul, and body, when I inherit my redeemed body. But, Steve, my identity, who I am at the spirit level is a new creation in Christ. My spirit IS perfect before God. Why? Because it is joined with His Spirit. How could it be otherwise? That is where I rest. Yes, I still commit sins, my behavior (soul) is not perfect. But that is not who I am. As Paul says in Romans 7, sin dwells in my body, but it is NOT ME. I am a new creation created to, yes, do good works. But why? Look at Christ's life, Steve. Did He do good works to be made righteous? No, He did good works because He WAS righteous. He did do good works to be made acceptable to His Father? No, God said that He was acceptable BEFORE Christ ever started His public ministry (remember, 'This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased.') Christ was righteous, holy, acceptable because He and His Father were one. There were united. Jesus said, "I only do what the Father tells Me to do. I only say what the Father tells Me to say." Are you united with Him, dear brother? The Bible says you are. Then how can your identity (not your performance) be anything less than what He IS. Your performance will catch up (become sanctified) as you live out of your new identity with Him. He wants you to live out of a vital, pulsating, life-filled, abundant relationship with Him, not rules. Steve, this is the only place I know where there is rest. There is no rest under the Law. But, "there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God (that's you, brother). For the one who has entered (past tense) His rest has himself also rested from his works (before salvation or after), as God did from His. Therefore let us be deligent to enter that rest..." - Hebrews 4:9-11 You must rest from YOUR works. Let God do the good works through you. He predestined them, He will be faithful to do them. He ALONE will finish the good work He has begun in you. Trust Him, Steve. I pray, dear brother, you will enter HIS rest and there find YOUR OWN. In Christ, Bill Mc BTW, Yes, Jesus did proclaim the New Covenant (remember His blood at the Lord's Supper?) but, you're right, it did not go into effect until He died.) |
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309 | How are you being perfected? Law? | Rom 7:4 | Bill Mc | 14398 | ||
Steve, Let's use yours (some of them contradict quite nicely). See my comments in :: Define "the Law." … a rule that was parceled by God (authority) to give me direction, having positive or negative consequences. ::You said in your prior post that you don't have to experience the consequences of not keeping the Law - no judgement:: For the Jews, it is the Law of Moses. There are 613 laws. While some people want to categorize them, the Bible does not ::true - so look up all the references that says that we, Christians, are no longer under law. Please let me know how many you find.:: For us gentiles, God still gives us laws, ::true, the law of Christ, not the laws of Moses:: including those He gave Noah in Genesis 9 ::Nope:: and the New Testament ::look up the greek for 'testament' - it is the same as covenant:: Define "grace." … His willingness to provide us with His enablement to find favor in God's eyes (Gen 6:8). Grace does not overlook sin ::Hold this thought - GRACE DOES NOT OVERLOOK SIN - your statement. Hebrews 10:17 says that God does:: Rather, it is grace that is needed to bring righteousness into action in our lives (Rom 5:20-21) ::These verse are describing what Christ has done-His actions, our actions, righteousness is imparted, then lived out::. Mercy forgives us of sin, but it is grace that enables us not to sin. ::true:: What is the relationship between the two? ... For Christianity, the concept of grace has to do with God's willingness to overlook our breaking His law under the condition that we have accepted the atonement of Christ's death in our place. ::OK, the thought I asked you to hold onto - GRACE DOES NOT OVERLOOK SIN - is contradicted right here. Now does it or doesn't it? You can't have it both ways.:: Without any law, there would be no need for grace. With law, there is need for grace. ::The question is, with grace, is there need for law? No. Why? Because we have something better. We have the indwelling Spirit of God to lead us. We are to be lead by the Spirit not the law.:: What is the purpose of the Law? ... To restrain sinfulness (Gal 3:19) ... To rebuke sin (Gal 3:22) ... To reveal our need for Christ (Gal 3:24) ::true, and, in my life, it has done that. It did reveal my need for Christ. I am now joined to Him, not the law (Romans 7 - first part):: How does "the Law" or any law effect our lives, today? ...Therefore, the abolition of the Mosaic Law code in no way leaves us in a state of lawlessness (Rom 6:1,14; 7:6). ::true, we are not left in a state of lawlessness. We are left with the Spirit of God - the law of Christ, a higher law - love, ruling in our hearts.:: Are we told we don't have to follow "the Law"? ... Nowhere tells us gentiles that they are not to keep the covenant of God. ::That is because the Gentiles were NEVER given the Law (Mosaic). Instead, Paul has to try to show the Jews, who were given the Law, that they are no longer under it.:: Paul says that we should not expect atonement for sin based solely on obedience to some of the commandments. The law itself says blood sacrifice brings atonement...Our faith in God's laws cause us to receive the atonement of Christ's blood sacrifice atones for sin. ::FALSE - our faith in the SACRIFICIAL DEATH OF CHRIST causes us to receive the forgiveness of sins. His death alone reconciled us to God. His death took sins away, NEVER atoned (covered) them. Try to find the word atonement used of Christ's sacrifice in the NT:: "For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments, and His commandments are not burdensome," (1 John 5:3) ::true, the law of Christ - love is never burdensome:: People that mix law and grace do not understand them. Have you noticed that your Bible is divided into 2 sections? … Yes. It is there are two Testaments, not covenant. ::Again, check the word:: The Old Covenant and the New? … Did you know there are more than two? Do you understand the difference between them? … Yes, I understand the difference between them all. ::Your position shows that, indeed, you do not. You mingled them together:: If you do, explain. ::I have been trying to:: Look at Galatians 3:2,3 … By hearing with faith. ::right, so...:: Then, "Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected (Mat 5:48) by the flesh (trying to establish your own righteousness apart from God's)?" How would you answer this question? … You mixed Scripture and changed what Matthew 5:48. I suggest you repent. ::Already have:: Answer my questions, since I answered yours. ::Not my last one, are you being perfected (made complete, righteous in God's sight) by the flesh? Yes or No. Easy question.:: In Christ, Bill Mc |
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310 | Where does your righteousness come from? | Rom 7:4 | Bill Mc | 14384 | ||
Dear Steve, I did cite the scripture - Galatians 3:10. It was right there in the body of my post. We are perfect (spiritually - our standing before God). Look at Matthew 5:48. How perfect are we to be? As perfect as our Father in heaven. How are you going to get it? As a gift. Righteousness is received as a gift from God - the righteousness from God that is received by faith. I have a good understanding of law, grace, and mercy. People that mix law and grace do not understand them. Have you noticed that your Bible is divided into 2 sections? The Old Covenant and the New? Do you understand the difference between them? Look at Galatians 3:2,3 - Paul says, "This is the only thing I want to find our from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?" How would you answer this question, Steve? Then, "Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected (Mat 5:48) by the flesh (trying to establish your own righteousness apart from God's)?" How would you answer this question? Check verse 21 - "for is a law had been given which was able to impart life (it could not), then righteousness would indeed have been based on law." The whole thrust here, brother, is that righteousness, before salvation or after, NEVER comes from the law. Why? Because the law condemns. Only Christ imparts life. Righteousness is not based upon the law but upon Christ. Check verse 24,25 - the Law was given to lead us to Christ. If you have truly come to Christ as your ONLY righteousness, you are no longer under the law. Where are you? In Christ, Bill Mc |
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311 | Is Galatianism alive and well? | Rom 7:4 | Bill Mc | 14361 | ||
Dear Steve, You write, "We still have to obey the Law, but are we condemned by it? (implied, no)" I strongly disagree. To say that disobedience to the Law has no punishment belittles it and robs it of it's power. It was given to show that the wages of sin (disobeying the law) is death (the punishment for disobedience) - Romans 6:23. Your statement is analogous to saying, "I will no longer get a speeding ticket if I go over 65 MPH, because of grace, but I still HAVE to go 65 MPH." Law without punishment is meaningless. Paul writes in Galatians 3:10 - "For as many as are of the works of the Law (whether you are a Christian or not, brother) are under a curse:" Why? "For it is written, 'Cursed is everyone who does not abide by ALL things written in the book of the Law, to perform them." Do you want to be under the Law? Fine. That is your choice. But, according to scripture, you need to be under ALL of it and PERFORM it 100 percent. You can't pick and choose. The Law is not some a la carte buffet where you can pick out what you want to keep and what you don't. You can't say, "I'll be under this part but not this part" or "I have to obey it but God will not punish me if I disobey it." God does not leave that option open for you, brother. James says that "whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all." Can you keep it perfectly, Steve, the whole Law? If not, what are you going to do? Will you then ask Christ, in His grace, to cover your sin? Grace covers it ALL, brother. Christians who mix law and grace do a grave injustice to both. They rob the Law of it's punishment (death) and they rob grace of it's result (life, though we deserve death). The wages of sin is ALWAYS death. That is what sin deserves each and every time. But Christ took that for us and gave us His righteousness. How are you going to improve on that. Stop mixing Law and grace. Stop trying to put new wine into old wineskins. Stop trying to weaken the law and cheapen God's grace. In Christ, Bill Mc |
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312 | What law(s) did Christ fulfill? | Rom 7:4 | Bill Mc | 14355 | ||
Append: the Christian is now under what is called the 'law of Christ' - love God and love others. But, once again, Christ will fulfill even this law as we trust Him to live through us and abide in His sufficiency. | ||||||
313 | What law(s) did Christ fulfill? | Rom 7:4 | Bill Mc | 14354 | ||
Hi B-Fabb, In my opinion, the Christian is no longer any of the law, whether moral, Mosaic, sacrificial, ceremonial, etc. Notice Romans chapter 7. Here Paul is using an analogy of marriage to illustrate this truth. He begins by stating that marital law is only binding as long as both members of the marriage are alive. When one of the partners dies, both are free from the marriage law. Starting in verse 4, he ties this illustration to what He calls "the Law". Through verse 6, he says that we (believers in Christ) were made to die to the Law so that we could be joined to another, Christ. He says in verse 6 that we have been released from the Law. Why? Because the Law died? No. Because we, through our death, burial, and resurrection with our Lord, died to the Law. Now, which Law is it? Keep reading through the rest of the chapter. Paul cites one of the big 10, "You shall not covet." Is this the moral law? Yes, obviously. He goes on to say that the Law is holy and righteous and good (more moral values) but that it caused him to see that he was spiritually dead because he couldn't keep it. It showed him his need for Christ. Let me conclude with Romans 8:3,4. Here Paul says that what the Law could not do (make us perfect before God), God did by sacrificing His Son. Because we are now identified, as believers, in Christ, and He fulfilled the law, the law (verse 4) is fulfilled in us. The law was to show us our sinfulness and spiritual death so that we would turn to Christ. Now that we have turned to Christ, we are no longer any of it - see Galatians 3:24,25. You can also search this site on the left of the page for others who have shared their views of this 'hot topic'. There is much debate (just as there was when Paul wrote to the Galatians). Grow in His grace. In Christ, Bill Mc |
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314 | What do YOU think, fellow Berian? | 1 Thess 5:23 | Bill Mc | 14349 | ||
Ed, understood. I see your meaning. I may not use the same words, but I do understand about reminding yourself of your position in Christ. Sometimes our experiences and emotions lie to us (as well as the Evil One himself) and we do need to remind ourselves of who we are in Him. I may not use the same terminology, but I can relate to the concept and I frequently renew my mind through scripture concerning my new identity in Christ. Paul expresses a similar idea, "God has reconciled you through the death of His Son...so be reconciled (it's a true fact so appropriate the truth to your experience). This is not name-it-and-claim-it theology because God Himself is the initiator. We are only availing ourselves of what is already true in God's eternal realm into our realm of experience. Anyway, God bless and keep growing in the grace and knowledge of the Lord. In Christ, Bill Mc |
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315 | What do YOU think, fellow Berian? | 1 Thess 5:23 | Bill Mc | 14337 | ||
Ed, thanks for your comment. I have already been accused of being both prideful and ignorant. I did agree with the ignorant accessment, that is why I ask questions. But my allegiance is to Christ and His Word alone. I am just curious as to what has happened to critical thinking in the Christian community. I.e. many Christians will say that Christ has forgiven all our sins - past, present, and future, then they will turn right around and say that, as a Christian, you must continue to confess your sins to get more forgiveness. These cannot both be true unless you redefine forgiveness into sub-categories such as judicial, parental, experiential, positional, practical, etc. on and on, which scripture never supports. If truth is truly true, it will stand up under the closest scrutiny. Truth is what God says. And God says that His Word is truth and that Christ is full of grace and truth. I am not trying to be adversarial. I am trying to get some of my questions answered in a way that departs from platitudes and Christian cliches. Fortunately, I cannot be hung. I have already been crucified with Christ :) In Christ, Bill Mc |
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316 | Why are we so quick to take offense? | 1 Thess 5:23 | Bill Mc | 14301 | ||
Nicodemus, I concur 100 percent. That is precisely why I am here (on this forum) asking some of my questions. I believe the NASB is the most accurate, literal translation we have in the English language today. But I believe that because of a consensus of biblical scholars, not because I know greek. I can read what it says, but I don't always know what it MEANS. That is where I need the Holy Spirit (primarily), other scripture, and fellow believers, theologians, and scholars to help me. So, no, we should not AVOID the use of great resources that are available. And I am not asking you (or anyone else) to discontinue using them. But, as you have said, they are 'someone else's opinion' as are ALL my posts. Thanks again. In Christ, Bill Mc |
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317 | Why are we so quick to take offense? | 1 Thess 5:23 | Bill Mc | 14232 | ||
Hi Nicodemus, Brother, perhaps you misunderstood my posting. I was not 'belittleling' anyone. I was not dismissing anyone 'on a whim.' I was not saying not to use resources that you are comfortable with. I was not saying that these theologians were not LIVE Christians. I was trying to get some input and opinions from fellow believers. I can consult my commentaries anytime. They are a great resource to me, especially at trying to understand the meaning behind the original languages. But are we becoming like many believers in the church at Corinth? (I am of Apollos, I am of Cephas, I am of Paul). Questions are posted and many answers are "Ryrie says," "Scofield says," - end of subject - no further discussion. Yes, these men have spent great portions of their lives studying the Bible. But they do, at times, disagree. (See Scofield's creation 'gap' theory) So what do we do when they disagree or say that they are not sure of the exact meaning or give us a range of interpretations? Or, as many Catholics believe, are we not allowed to interpret the scriptures for ourselves? Permit me to reverse the questions: (Please use scripture to support your answer) What qualifications do I need to understand God's Word for what it says? How prepared do I need to be to answer specific Bible questions? How much of my life do I need to spend interpreting scripture before I can know it's meaning? Nicodemus, you did answer my question. You said you agreed with Scofield. Thank you. That was what I was seeking. I did not intend to offend you. In Christ, Bill Mc |
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318 | Lifting up of hands? | Ps 63:4 | Bill Mc | 14116 | ||
Dear Steve, unfortunately, I don't know anyone who knows Arabic, Japanese, or another language NOT influenced by English - I'm sheltered culturally :). I'm going to have to stay with English, brother. | ||||||
319 | What do YOU think, fellow Berian? | 1 Thess 5:23 | Bill Mc | 14115 | ||
Hi Nicodemus, Thanks for your input, brother. Although I greatly respect Charles C. Ryrie (I, too, have one of the study Bibles), I believe we need to excercise caution when refering to the study notes. Yes, Ryrie does make the statement: "5:23-24 spirit and soul and body should NOT be understood as defining the parts of man, but as representing the whole man." (1 Thess. 5:23) (emphasis mine) My question is, upon what evidence does he base his conclusion? Please don't misunderstand me. I have nothing against Ryrie. What I don't understand is - what has happened to critical thought in the 'Christian community'? Many questions on this forum are answered with 'copy and paste' answers out of one study Bible or another. And, while I agree that a good study Bible is a fine supplement to understanding scripture, I don't believe that it's commentary ever carries the divine inspiration we have in the Word of God. I believe that the scripture we have is our sole source for God's revelation to men. Yes, I believe that God, in His grace, has 'illumined' scripture down through the ages through various Christians. But I view their contributions as supplementary, not substitutionary. All that being said, the Greek DOES make a distinction in these two passages between spirit and soul as you have noted, the spirit (pneuma) and the soul (psuche). Ryrie says that he feels that a destinction SHOULDN'T be made, Nelson's says that a distinction is IMPLIED, and the Scofield says they ARE divisible and distinguished (in certain cases). It seems our 'theologians' are not in agreement. So, brother, what do YOU think? I can read my Ryrie, Nelson, Scofield, NIV Study, Matthew Henry, etc. for myself. But what do YOU think? I would appreciate LIVE interaction with fellow brothers and sisters on these issues. One last disclaimer (humor me). I am just as guilty. The web address that I posted does have a 'theologian's' interpretation there. I understand and accept that that is what it is. I'm just curious as to what other 'live' Christians may think? In Christ, Bill Mc |
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320 | Lifting up of hands? | Ps 63:4 | Bill Mc | 13978 | ||
Worship is more than having your hands raised. Consider Romans 12:1 - "Therefore, I urge you, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies a living and holy sacrifice, acceptable to God, which is your SPIRITUAL SERVICE of WORSHIP." Paul says here that a true spiritual "worship service" is making your body availible for Christ to live through. This is the only place that I know of in the NT where "worship services" are discussed ;) In Christ, Bill Mc |
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