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1 | Luther and Aquinas | Bible general Archive 2 | flinkywood | 142610 | ||
I'm reading Martin Luther. How might Luther have responded to Thomas Aquinas’ statement, “God who created you without your cooperation will not save you without your cooperation”? (from Sermon 169,11) Colin |
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2 | Luther and Aquinas | Bible general Archive 2 | DocTrinsograce | 142611 | ||
This is speculative since I don't know of any place that Martin Luther directly addressed this specific statement of Aquinas. So, I will speculate, brother Colin: I think what Martin Luther would have said (and actually wrote on this topic) is "The human doctrine of free will and of our spiritual powers is futile. The matter [of salvation] does not depend on our will but on God's will and election." As best as I can tell, Luther believed election was the actual and only cause of our salvation. On the other hand, I can't find where he necessarily (or at least conclusively) embraced the L of TULIP. He tended to call these sorts of things "mysteries" a la Deuteronomy 29:29. He wrote regarding mysteries "we are not allowed to investigate, and even though you were to investigate much, yet you would never find out." Most modern Lutherans would also argue that Luther did not agree with the I in TULIP. Certainly he wouldn't have articulated it in the same way, but other things he taught sure sound (at least to me) like he had a very similar notion. In Him, Doc |
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3 | Luther and Aquinas | Bible general Archive 2 | flinkywood | 142614 | ||
Doc, It was Augustine's, not Aquinas' quotation, so the question should read LUTHER AND AUGUSTINE. My confusion. Where did find Luther's quotation? Also, do you think Luther's doctrine of "election" softened in his later life, that is, did it shift Catholic-ward? Colin |
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4 | Luther and Aquinas | Bible general Archive 2 | DocTrinsograce | 142624 | ||
:-) Come to think of it, it sounds a lot more Augustinian than Aquininian (Aqualine? Aquaish?) :-) Those quotes I got out of a book entitled "What Luther Says" by a fellow named Ewald Plass. He catagorizes quotes on various topics. The topics per se are modern, but it is a pretty good book. I think you can get it from Concordia Publishing (where you can get lots of good Lutheran stuff). Luther lived long enough to see some splintering in Reformed Christian circles. However, the majority of his complaints were against Romanism. I don't think he softened there at all. I believe it troubled him, though, that everyone didn't just line up into one large new church in complete agreement. (Too many folks thought he didn't throw out enough bath water.) He would never have been able to make peace with Rome because of the five solas; and I suspect that Rome would never have been able to forgive him for what they saw as a sin of pandoran-like consequences and the resultant damage to their power. Remember, that was off the cuff... and my answers are frequently worth what you pay for them! :-) In Him, Doc |
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5 | Luther and Aquinas | Bible general Archive 2 | flinkywood | 142637 | ||
Thanks, Doc. Colin |
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