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1 | holy spirit vs. holy ghost | NT general Archive 1 | rgb | 149240 | ||
But sometimes the definite article is missing (47x), and the Watchtower Society claims: "thus indicating its LACK of personality". Mt.1:18,20; 3:11; Mk.1:8; Lk.1:15,35,41,67; 2:25; 3:16; 4:1; 11:13; Jn.1:35; 20:22; Acts 1:2,5; 2:4; 4:8,25 etc. | ||||||
2 | holy spirit vs. holy ghost | NT general Archive 1 | JCrichton | 149279 | ||
Hi, rgb! Grammatical accidents are to Scripture like wedding bands on a married couple: they clarify the relationship but they do not establish the relationship! Take for example one single passage: John 4:24; while some translations have "spirit," others have "Spirit;" yet, still others have "a spirit," while others still have "a Spirit..." Could Jesus Christ be saying that God is a force, a power or is He saying that God is a being which is a Spirit or spiritual being? The only concern that the Watchtower has is to strip the Holy Trinity of the Son and the Holy Spirit... they are a blind fellowship the purports to being Christian (the object of fellowship and worship) while still denying that He is God! Don't they realize that we cannot serve two masters? If we call Jesus our Master (Lord and Savior) and if He is not God, are they not in essence practicing polytheism: they serve Christ, who to them is not God and they serve God! As confusing as that is, you will find that they always excuse any Scripture that speaks of Jesus or the Holy Spirit as God... ie: in the Old Testament God's prophets spoke and set prophecies... the language in the Old Testament is almost always: the Lord said/says... when we read through the New Testament we find that the statements attributed to the Lord are attributed to the Holy Spirit (as in David's: the Lord said to my Lord)... I remember a couple of people rejecting that Jesus is God because they could not understand how the Word could be God and be with God all at the same time... yet, when reading Isaiah they reject God's own statements about His Son, the Immanuel (God-with-us) whose titles include Mighty God and Eternal Father... They manipulate Scripture so that they even refuse to see simple values transfered from the Father to the Son as in Isaiah 8:14-15 Romans 9:31-33; 1 Corinthians 1;23 and 1 Peter 2:3-10... Selective reasoning and etymology can obfuscate the Truth rather than set it free... and, if we relay on half-truths, how can we be set free? Paul spoke of the incredulous and the "geniuses" as those who were far from God: 21For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 22Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom, 23but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, 24but to those whom God has called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength. (1 Corinthians 1:21-25) This, of course, does not mean that we should not search Scripture and dig into origins of words... however, our task should not be to limit God but to discover deeper understanding into His revelations: The Father and I are One; all sin is forgiven except blaspheming against the Holy Spirit... these are solid statements that reveal that the Father and the Son are both God and that the Holy Spirit is God... no amount of study/manipulation can render anything other than that truth--unless the Word of God is ignored, circumvented or its meaning altered! God Bless! Angel |
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3 | holy spirit vs. holy ghost | NT general Archive 1 | rgb | 149341 | ||
Thanks to both for your comments. I am "In Christ" and clearly see that JW theology is contrary to Scripture. But the presence and absence of the definite article does show a pattern. There is "The Spirit The Holy One" -- Awesome Person (www.geocities.com/etalk99/sp1d.html). But there is also "holy spirit" -- Awesome Power (www.geocities.com/etalk99/sp1c.html). Grammatical accident? Not in my view. | ||||||
4 | holy spirit vs. holy ghost | NT general Archive 1 | JCrichton | 149371 | ||
Hi, rgb! I am not saying the contrary... Scripture speak of both the Holy Spirit as a Person of God and as a power/gift that teaches, guides, enhances the Christian... My reference to grammatical accident is because some people get caught up in definitions and roots... the Jehovah Witnesses love to dismantle John 1:1-2... they teach the concept of Logos as though Scripture is expressing a spoken energy and not the second Person of God... they are also quick to point out that Jesus stated that the Father is greater than He--their take on this is that Jesus is some how a secondary/alter ego to the Father; thusly, they express how Jesus is not the Almighty God, but just some lesser being... again, a grammatical accident (statement) cannot deny Jesus' Divinity when there are oh so so many Scriptural passages that demonstrate or tells us that Jesus is God. The beauty of the Holy Trinity is clearly manifested to Paul as He tells us that we cannot serve Jesus but through the Holy Spirit and that those who have the Spirit of God cannot deny Jesus (1 Corinthian 12:3)... it is God who sets the prerogotives--in the Old Testament we find that Moses' son was struck down for presenting a strange fire, and Oza for touching the Ark... it is unavoidable to serve God in His determined manner: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! So you see... when we scrutinize Scripture and rely on only etymological sciences, we will always fall short of discovering the Holy Spirit and Jesus as part of God's essence... (secretly, I hope that the Jehovah Witnessess and others like them read through our exchange and rediscover God as God wants us to know Him!)... God Bless! Angel |
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5 | holy spirit vs. holy ghost | NT general Archive 1 | rgb | 149388 | ||
Well stated. I like how you write. | ||||||
6 | holy spirit vs. holy ghost | NT general Archive 1 | JCrichton | 149500 | ||
Hi, rgb! Thanks for the encouragement! God Bless! Angel |
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