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1 | Is Entire Sanctification Scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 23603 | ||
Greetings Nazman! Have you read the new book by Frank Moore, "Breaking Free from Sin's Grip"? I like the way he presents the issue. He basically says what you said that sanctification is both a process and an experience. The experience of entire sanctification is defined as a moment of consecration which results in a real heart change. I have been doing a lot of reading on this issue and it is true - each person you ask has a slightely different definition! :-) Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Is Entire Sanctification Scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | NazMan | 23690 | ||
Then I may as well add mine, lol. Most Christians outside the holiness denominations see sanctification as a process; it "happens" as you "grow" in your faith. Many seem to think that this process is a given, that it is automatic subsequent to conversion/justification. The holiness folk, I believe in reaction to this, concentrate on the experience of entire sanctification, that in an instantaneous second work of grace, at which time the believer is entirely consecrated and cleansed, baptized by the Spirit. I believe both are right to an extent, and I think Wesley would agree. Sanctification is a process that begins in an instant. It does not just happen that you grow or become more holy, it takes intentional cooperation with the Spirit working in you and through you. (I am not talking about working for salvation, by the way, this is subsequent to justification). Therefore, the nature of this process is such that it begins in an instant, through an experience. I liken it to the step of faith one takes when first giving one's life to Christ. One accepts by faith God's gift of salvation and eternal life, just as one accepts by faith God's gift of sanctification, consecrating oneself and placing one's body on the altar as a living sacrifice. I believe this view is more accurate biblically, and also matches the experience of most believers, whatever their theological tradition. I have not read the book you mentioned above. One you might consider though is InterVarsity's "Christian Spirituality: Five Views of Sanctification" (Donald Alexander, ed.) |
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3 | Is Entire Sanctification Scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 23696 | ||
Greetings NazMan! Thanks for the input! I think you are right on! I have Zondervan's "Five Views on Sanctification." It includes chapters by: Melvin Dieter (Wesleyan); Anthony Hoekema (Reformed); Stanley Horton (Pentecostal); J. Robertson McQuilkin (Keswikian); and John Walvoord (Augustinian-Dispenstational). It is pretty good, but in all honesty I got more out of Frank Moore's book. In his book, he says of sanctification: "Santification begins in the new birth, grows with spiritual development to the time of a second momement (Rom. 12:1-2) when the Spirit takes complete control, then develops incrementally in maturity throughout a believer's life." p. 79. It is an interesting issue and one which I have to come to grips with if I do transfer my credentials to the Nazarene church. I am seriously leaning in that direction. I plan on meeting with the district leadership soon and see if my view is acceptable to them! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Is Entire Sanctification Scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | Makarios | 23739 | ||
Greetings Tim and NazMan! I may be speaking from a Wesleyan/Methodist background, but my view of what "Entire Sanctification" means is very much like John Wesley's (surprise, surprise! :-) ). So to accurately present what and how I believe Entire Sanctification applies to us, then I will quote part of Brent Douglas' excellent post... "My understanding is that passages and verses such as Luke 14:25ff and Matthew 6:24-Luke 16:14, Romans 12:1f, etc. give the clearest indication of what Wesley meant by entire sanctification. It is not a condition of sinless perfection or an ability to set aside the flesh completely. Rather it is a state or condition of being fully set apart, not only positionally by God but in one's own heart and will -- a condition in which (by the Spirit's empowerment) nothing is allowed by the will to compete with God for allegiance. While there is great disagreement among those who have the pursuit of "holiness" as one of their central guiding principles -- I believe Wesley seems fairly clear in his own (later) writings that any state of "entire sanctification" can be lost and regained without at all affecting salvation itself. I believe Wesley would interpret 1 Corinthians 10:13 as a very real possibility for the true Christian at any given time and not simply a worthy but unattainable goal." Blessings to you, Nolan |
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5 | Is Entire Sanctification Scriptural? | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 23743 | ||
Support....................................... Greetings Nolan! I hope you will have or are having a Happy Thanksgiving! :-) I agree with what you and Brent. I have read some of Wesley's writings on this issue and it seems pretty clear that he saw entire sanctification as a heart matter more than anything else. He used the term "love" alot. That's basically what this new book by Frank Moore argues as well, that sanctification begins at new birth and continues all through our lives with many ups and downs. But, he believes that there is a moment subsequent to salvation where we really come to grips with the Lordship of Christ and fully consecrate ourselves to Him. This is the moment he believes that entire sanctification refers to - every key to the house is turned over to God. I like this view and I think it makes good sense of Rom. 6. I have long been concerned, even before I began thinking about joining the Nazarenes, that many didn't really take the words of Rom. 6 seriously enough. Is the old man dead or not? Are we slaves to sin or not? I think Rom. 6 very clearly says yes to the first and no to the second. Concerning the relationship between salvation and entire sanctification, I haven't read anyone yet who thinks that entire sanctification in any way affects one's salvation - though I'm sure that there is someone somewhere! :-) I definitely agree with you and Brent about 1 Cor. 10:13! The verse states that this is a reality, not a possibility! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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