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1 | When does regeneration take place ? | 1 Pet 3:20 | BrettOrlando | 230118 | ||
Hi Paul. Well by regeneration, I assume you are saying saved from the coming wrath to the disobedient. I think it is important to read the Bible enough to ask "what is God trying to do here?" He wanted to create people that would CHOOSE to become like him which is unconditionally loving. Jesus spoke of this kind of love for those who hurt us in Matthew 5. We saw in the Garden of Eden that God will not put up with his creation that thinks they have a better way of doing things. It's not that he doesn't want to, he cannot. Since only goodness and love comes from God, his people must follow him. Throughout the Old Testament, we see God giving detailed instructions of how he wanted something carried out, e.g. Noah's Ark, Solomon's temple, the Ark of the Covenant construction, and many healings where maybe someone had to wash in a specific body of water or do a certain thing to get rid of their leprosy, etc. Living a life "in Christ" and obeying his teachings (John 14:23-24; John 15:9-10) is his plan to transform us reversing the process sin's residual damage (unholiness) has left behind, i.e. to make us loving to the undeserving and unselfish. No one knows better than the designer of all things. Sin does more than send a message of rebellion to God. It leaves behind a digressing spiritual condition. It makes us more selfish and unlike God, the more we partake in it. As for how we get into the body of Christ, Jesus told us in Matthew 28:18-20 that all his servants (disciples) are to be baptized. We see in 1 Peter 3:20-21 that is the time you make your pledge to make your covenant commitment to Christ. It tells us that the water symbolizes BAPTISM and saves us just like the water saved Noah and his family. Now what is BAPTISM? Paul tells us in Romans 6:1-4 that is dying and being resurrected with Christ. We go down in the water pledging to die from then on to our selves take up our cross and follow Christ (Luke 9:23-26 and 14:25-31) and then come up out of the water to live the new life. Born again according to John 3:3-5. Other passages on it Galatians 3:26-27, Colossians 2:12, Titus 3:3-5. Much like Jesus was transfigured on the mountain where Peter, James and John witnessed, his disciples will be transfigured when he comes back to get them (1 Corinthians 15:52). Maybe this is what you mean by regeneration. Paul's letters spend a lot of time instructing and encouraging people to leave the life of slavery in sin we have been freed (don't go back to Egypt). It is a mental taking up your cross, relying on the Holy Spiriit's instructions in His word (2 Peter 1:20-21), and praying for God's help for the rest of your life. The more selfless deeds we do to other disciples and those we don't know or have hurt us, the more we will become more like Christ. His sermons on the mount (Matt 5,6,7) and plain (Luke 6) see his basic teachings. | ||||||
2 | When does regeneration take place ? | 1 Pet 3:20 | BradK | 230136 | ||
Hello Brett, Welcome to the Forum. If I may comment on a statement you made:-) 1 Peter 3:20-21 is one of the most difficult- and debateable -passages in the NT. It's exact meaning is anything but clear. So we must take care in attempting to determine it's intended meaning and thereby making doctrine of it. You said, "It tells us that the water symbolizes BAPTISM and saves us just like the water saved Noah and his family." Actually that is not what the passage in the NASB says. It says they, "...were brought safely through the water". The water saved no one. In actuality, those who were "baptized" were drowned, i.e. they died! The better question might be, 'to what baptism do you refer'? Are yoou speaking to (or about) "water" or "spiritual"? From my study I don't believe the Pauline passages are dealing with water, but instead refer to the spiritual- which is how we are actually brought into union with Christ. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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