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1 | Who are the spirits in 1 Peter 3 v 19? | 1 Pet 3:19 | Diomede | 151911 | ||
Who are these spirits Jesus preached to? Does this refer to Jesus going down to hell between his death and resurrection? If so then why would he only preach to those who were round at the time of Noah, and what would be the point of preaching to them , since they couldn't choose to follow him anyway. Could this refer to Christ appearing on earth in Noahs time to try win back people? Or maybe just his spirit being on earth trying to get through to peoples hearts before the flood? Is there anything else in the bible that would support Christ or his Spirit being on earth before the flood? I am interested to hear peoples ideas, as I can't make sense of this. Thanks |
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2 | Who are the spirits in 1 Peter 3 v 19? | 1 Pet 3:19 | terrib | 151913 | ||
Greetings Diomede, (1 Peter 3:19 KJV) By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; "By which" - Spirit, his own Divine energy and authority. "He went and preached" - By the ministry of Noah, one hundred and twenty years. "Unto the spirits in prison" - The inhabitants of the antediluvian world, who, having been disobedient, and convicted of the most flagrant transgressions against God, were sentenced by his just law to destruction. But their punishment was delayed to see if they would repent; and the long-suffering of God waited one hundred and twenty years, which were granted to them for this purpose; during which time, as criminals tried and convicted, they are represented as being in prison - detained under the arrest of Divine justice, which waited either for their repentance or the expiration of the respite, that the punishment pronounced might be inflicted. (Adam Clarke's Commentary on the Bible) (Genesis 6:3 KJV) And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. Noah, a preacher: (2 Peter 2:5 KJV) And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; Hope this helps, terrib |
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3 | Who are the spirits in 1 Peter 3 v 19? | 1 Pet 3:19 | Searcher56 | 151949 | ||
Scripture ... Gen 5:32, 6:3, 11:25 ........... terrib, God's day to you, When I quote someone, I make notes where I disagree ... Adam Clarke's thought on "God waited one hundred and twenty years" (Gen 6:3) not not possible. Noah was 500 years old when he became a father (5:32) and was 600 years old when the rains came down and the floods came up. ... if you were unaware of what 120 years (Gen 6:3) meant ... which is man's lifespan, which took in effect with Nahor (11:25). Searcher |
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4 | Who are the spirits in 1 Peter 3 v 19? | 1 Pet 3:19 | terrib | 151956 | ||
Hi Searcher, Thanks for replying, this can be a sticking point, but let's see if we can figure this out. Genesis is a treatment of the generation of all things, of the heavens, and the earth, and all that are in them, and of the genealogy of men: it treats of the first men, of the patriarchs before the flood, and after it to the times of Joseph. It is in a chronological format. The Lord is not speaking to Noah in 6:3 but to Himself (or and) to the Heavenly Host. (Genesis 6:3 KJV) And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. (Genesis 6:4 KJV) There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. "in those days"(v4), what days, the days the Lord said these things. "also after that"(v4), "and they bare children to them", there is a time span here. (Genesis 6:5 KJV) And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. God saw the wickedness of these children, these men. And it was getting worse. And God said: (Genesis 6:7 KJV) And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. Now, after all this, enters Noah on the stage being 500 years old. The children in verse 4 had to have time to grow up to become the mighty men from the time of the Lord's proclamation. By context this had to have happened before Noah was 500 years old. You said "which is man's lifespan, which took in effect with Nahor (11:25)." These are contrary to your statement: Nahor: 29 years (11:24) plus 119 years (11:25) equals 148 years. (Genesis 11:25 KJV) And Nahor lived after he begat Terah an hundred and nineteen years, and begat sons and daughters. Terah, Nahor's son: 205 years (Genesis 11:32 KJV) And the days of Terah were two hundred and five years: and Terah died in Haran. Abraham lived 175 years (Genesis 25:7 KJV) And these are the days of the years of Abraham's life which he lived, an hundred threescore and fifteen years. Isaac lived 180 years (Genesis 35:28 KJV) And the days of Isaac were an hundred and fourscore years. So your premise is not correct. John Gill's Exposition on the Entire Bible: "yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years: meaning not the term of man's life, reduced to this from the length of time he lived before the flood; but this designs the space that God would give for repentance, before he proceeded to execute his vengeance on him; this is that "longsuffering of God" the apostle speaks of in the afore mentioned place, "that waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was preparing"; and so both the Targums of Onkelos and Jonathan interpret it of a space of an hundred and twenty years given them to repent: now whereas it was but an hundred years from the birth of Japheth to the flood, some think the space was shortened twenty years, because of their impenitence; but it is more probable what Jarchi observes, that this decree was made and given out twenty years before his birth, though here related, by a figure called "hysteron proteron", frequent in the Scriptures." Albert Barnes' Note on the Bible: "His days shall be an hundred and twenty years. - “His days” are the days of man, not the individual, but the race, with whom the Lord still strives. Hence, they refer to the duration, not of the life of an individual, but of the existence of the race. From this we learn that the narrative here reverts to a point of time before the birth of Shem, Ham, and Japheth, recorded in the close of the preceding passage as there were only a hundred years from their birth to the deluge. This is according to the now well-known method of Scripture, when it has two lines of events to carry on. The former narrative refers to the godly portion of mankind; this to the ungodly remnant. Not forever will the Lord strive with man; but his longsuffering will still continue for one hundred and twenty years. Meanwhile he does not leave himself or his clemency without a witness. He sent Noah with the message of warning, who preached by his voice, by his walking with God, and also by his long labor and perseverance in the building of the ark. The doomed race, however, filled up the measure of their iniquity, and when the set number of years was accomplished, the overwhelming flood came." Matthew Henry, John Wesley and more studious men agree. Peace to you, terrib |
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5 | Who are the spirits in 1 Peter 3 v 19? | 1 Pet 3:19 | Searcher56 | 151974 | ||
terrib ... you may want to believe 600 minus less than 500 is still 120 ... but you and the experts will get a zero on math. My point is that the number of years after the flood lived was reduced. PS I don't always care what the "experts" say. |
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6 | Who are the spirits in 1 Peter 3 v 19? | 1 Pet 3:19 | terrib | 151977 | ||
Hi Searcher, No, it would make Noah 480 years old when God put forth the decree. Could you tell me why you say it took effect with Nahor? Yes, the experts have been wrong before, but it is hard to put down all the accumulated years of their studies. terrib |
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