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1 | What's the proper response to injustice? | 1 Pet 2:19 | Mommapbs | 153181 | ||
Aixen - I am confused about your fear here. Perhaps the problem is that the church is negligent in its appreciation for the gifts that God gives to the body. Not one person alone, but many . . . using their gift as the Holy Spirit has given . . . not for selfish gain or pride, but in humility, esteeming the needs of others and seeing ALL as valuable members. I have been told that this is not a church, yet, if we as believers are gathered about to study God's Word together, is that not an act of worship? It is not being done in isolation, but in view of all. As individuals we might be mindful of James instructions for proper speech (type qualifies here)See James 3 and Psalm 109:17. I read a great "one-liner" on this: whenever we open our mouth, our mind is on parade. (So what we type here is quite revealing too) All too often we do not find a blessing, but rather we find attitudes that are devoid of the mind of Christ, such as condescension, ridicule or even disgust. Titus 3:14 reminds us to use our gifts to meet needs. In this way, BOTH, the needful and the giver are fruitful. How did the meeting go for you? Blessings, mommapbs |
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2 | What's the proper response to injustice? | 1 Pet 2:19 | Aixen7z4 | 153211 | ||
Understand that the matter is important. It is not a theoretical issue, even as the Bible is not a theoretical book. God’s word is given to guide our lives. In it there is direction as to the way to confront injustice and to promote justice. But most of us ignore the problem even as our brothers and sisters, and sometimes we ourselves are suffering from it. The least we can do is to talk about it, but my fear is that we won’t, and that some will seek as in the past to actively suppress the discussion. I know it sounds paranoid, but that is what happens. That is why the issue is not discussed. That is why injustice proceeds unchallenged, and justice fails, to the detriment and suffering of many. That is my fear, that the issue will be not only ignored but actively suppressed. I hope you understand. The meeting that I spoke of went quite well, in many ways. The Gospel was preached and some came to faith in Christ. The young man in question took part and said that he was glad for it. But the leaders of the church were not there to see what he was willing to do and able to do. That is what I had planned for them to see and I had hoped it would encourage them to allow him to use his gift in church. As it was, they did not get to know him that way and they still have not called him as they had promised about the task he had volunteered for. He told me he will look to other churches now for opportunities, and indeed he visited another church with me the next day and spoke to the elders there. It is good that there are other churches, and I trust that he will have a chance to use his gifts and further develop them. I understand and agree with all that you have said. We all should use our gifts to meet needs. The scriptures teaching that are well known, I hope. Titus 3:14 is a key passage concerning this. Thank you for pointing it out. But we must keep in mind it was Paul writing to his delegate and specifically instructing him to monitor and facilitate this. “I left you in Crete for this reason, that you would set in order the things that were lacking” (Titus 1:5). There are things that are lacking, and some would volunteer to make up the lack and use their gifts to meet the needs. But there are those who guard the gates and choose the players, and injustice occurs when some are denied opportunity. I hope you agree that everyone has both needs and gifts. That is what I get from passages such as Ephesians 4:16. The question has been how we should react when we see injustice, when gifts are not used and needs are not met. I had hoped that this discussion would have revealed some scriptural ideas for us to use, each in our area, as we see the need. Contrary to the idea of promoting some and consigning others to the role of spectator, which often takes hold, we ought to provoke one another to love and to good works. |
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3 | What's the proper response to injustice? | 1 Pet 2:19 | Morant61 | 153212 | ||
Greetings Aixen! I have been reading your thread, but I am confused as to what injustice you are referring. Can you, or will you, elaborate some? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | What's the proper response to injustice? | 1 Pet 2:19 | PasserBy | 153221 | ||
Hello: Where have you been? By that statement, I mean several things. First: Why have you not come into this discussion before? You can ask me the same thing, because I ask myself the same thing. I wonder if we have the same reason. Second: Have you not been to the churches? Even if Aixen had not talked about it, have you not seen injustice there? Third: Have you actually read the thread? It seems that Aixen is saying there is injustice for two reasons. 1. People with needs are not getting their needs met. Have you not seen that? 2. People with spiritual gifts are denied an opportunity to exercise those gifts. Have you not seen that? In so far as it is true that some gifts and some needs are systematically ignored, it is unjust. What do you think? Aixen speaks about fear, but I think he is actually very brave. It takes a brave person to point this out, since many see it and do not have the courage to speak up. He has brought it up. It remains to be seen whether he himself will be ignored or attacked for doing so. I am not here to defend the brother. But I wonder why others have not seen what he has seen. Perhaps it is because he travels a lot and visits many churches. But now he has talked about it, I wonder why it is hard for you to even understand what he has said. What would you do about the case of that young man that he spoke about? That person introduced a program into a church and ran it for a short time. Then it was summarily taken away from him and given to others. Would you say that was injustice? Or would you do like someone else has done, to imagine reasons why they had just reasons to do that? Or should he say to the young man that he should “keep hoeing”? I am sure that Aixen could elaborate and illustrate with many stories, but I do not think we need to prove the point that there is injustice. If you have not seen it yourself, then you may not understand. The Bible talks about it and we need ideas from the Bible to deal with it. |
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5 | What's the proper response to injustice? | 1 Pet 2:19 | Morant61 | 153226 | ||
Greetings Passerby! First of all, welcome to the forum. :-) Secondly, the references to the injustice were very vague which is why I asked for clarification. In the case of this young man, why is he being denied the opportunity to use his gifts? The reason would determine if this is actually an injustice or not. :-) There could be many valid reasons for a churches leadership to deny someone the opportunity to minister. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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