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1 | 2Thess 2:7 forum, then respond | 2 Thess 2:6 | Ray | 8639 | ||
After reading the posts of my friends here and having gone to the only Greek that I know, namely two Interlinear Greek/English New Testament publications that I own, I'm going to stay with my original copy. With one exception. I believe that God is the One who restrains. If the Greek had the word Restrainer, (and it doesn't), I would have it capitalized. However, I don't believe that He is restrained at all, but rather the son of perdition is. Thus, here is my change to my copy and I believe it agrees with the Greek. "Do you not remember that while I was with you, I was telling you these things? And you know the One who restrains him now, for in His time He will be revealed. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; there is only One who now restrains until it is taken out of the way. Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay..." Thanks ahead of time for any continued input. |
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2 | 2Thess 2:7 forum, then respond | 2 Thess 2:6 | Makarios | 8641 | ||
Dear Ray, You enter upon some interesting ground here, assuming that you agree (and we both do) that the 'Restrainer' is in fact, the Holy Spirit in this verse. :) You said, "Do you not remember that while I was with you, I was telling you these things? And you know the One who restrains him now, for in His time He will be revealed. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; there is only One who now restrains until it is taken out of the way. Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay..." The things that I might add or change here are the use of "His" in 'in His time' and "He" in 'He will be revealed.' According to your subject of this sentence, 'the One' is the Holy Spirit. However, if I interpret your sentence correctly, "One" is doing the 'restraining', which is your verb. If this is correct, then 'His' and 'He' should be referring to the 'lawless one' instead of the Holy Spirit since it is the lawless one who will be revealed and is being restrained right now by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit ends up 'stepping aside'.. :) Also, if you are referring to Diety by capitalizing 'One' in the 2nd part of the 3rd sentence, then you should either change the word 'it' to 'It' or 'He', since it is also referring back to 'One' which is your subject in this sentence.. So here are my proposed changes: "Do you not remember that while I was with you, I was telling you these things? And you know the One who restrains him now, for in his time he will be revealed. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; there is only One who now restrains until He is taken out of the way. Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay..." Keep up the good work Ray! Blessings, Nolan |
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3 | 2Thess 2:7 forum, then respond | 2 Thess 2:6 | Ray | 8644 | ||
Hi Nolan, Please refer to my note to Tim above concerning "it". As far as who is being revealed, is there any reason why both can not be revealed here? | ||||||
4 | 2Thess 2:7 forum, then respond | 2 Thess 2:6 | Makarios | 8659 | ||
Greetings Ray! Yes, I believe that the reason that the Holy Spirit is not being revealed here and the 'man of lawlessness' is, is simply because the Holy Spirit is what is being revealed today, now. And the 'revelation' of the Holy Spirit began at Pentecost in Acts 2.. Therefore, the Holy Spirit isn't the one who is being revealed here, but it is the 'man of lawlessness'. The Holy Spirit must 'step aside' so that the 'man of lawlessness' could be revealed. Blessings, Nolan |
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