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1 | Readers of"Left Behind" series question | 2 Thess 2:12 | Mommapbs | 43899 | ||
According to this passage in 2 Thess 2:7-12, the opportunity to accept Jesus Christ as Savior is precluded from those (gentiles) who have not responded to the Gospel or rejected Jesus before the Rapture of the Church. Doesn't the "Left Behind" series offer an erroneous hope of a "second chance" to those who remain? | ||||||
2 | Readers of"Left Behind" series question | 2 Thess 2:12 | Scribe | 43915 | ||
I do not see that this passage says that those that are left cannot be saved if they repent. If that were the case then God would just wrap all thins up in a day. The time of this judgement seems to have a purpose that God is leaving men without excuse, that they will repent or perish forever, but none will be able to say he did not know. They will even gather against God knowing that it is Jesus Christ they are trying to fight. This verse says... 2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Now we know that that does not happen until the end of the Great Tribulation so this passage if it is condeming for all eternity men that will not repent it is doing so when all things are wrapped up. Until then the judgements poured out seem to be another example of God's Holy Love in that He is still calling men to repentance, and demonstrating to all those that will ackowledge it that He is Judge and these judgements are not to be explained away. Men even seek death under the torment of the scorpion beasts (whatever they may be) and cannot find it prooving that something supernatural is involved. They say (hide us from the wrath of Him that sits on the throne and from the Lamb, prooving that they know that the judgements are from God.) If anything The Left behind series do not do enough in explaining just how much the men of the world will KNOW these judgements are from God and yet resist repenting anyway. The fact that a multitude comes out of the Tribulation and have their robes washed demonstrates that there are those saved in it. That there are those that are being asked to take the mark and refuse and are killed for it and then are told they live forever in heaven shows that there are those getting saved at this time. But I will agree that it will be worse than even the early church who were fed to beasts for not recanting their faith. Those that give their lives to Christ at this time are sure to suffer horrible deaths at the hands of the antichrist and there will be no sort of christian bible studies while eating popcorn and wondering what is the next prophetic event on the time table to happen in the news that day. Also though there may be multitudes saved, there will be far more multitudes sluaghtered with no hope as the winepress of the Wrath of God is unleashed. May God keep you from that hour. |
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3 | Readers of"Left Behind" series question | 2 Thess 2:12 | Mommapbs | 43931 | ||
Greetings Scribe: This is a new concept to me, and I am in the middle of really processing the ramifications of it. I guess I never really gave much thought to the door of Grace closing for some! I agree that many will be saved (some preserved supernaturally according to Rev.)but most martyred during the Tribulation period, however, could these individuals be primarily the "remnant" of Israel? Since the diaspora, and the lack of any geneological record, who knows if they are part of Israel? God does! (Recall Israel's great predisposition to intermarry. Through this disobedience et.al., God chose to include Gentiles as recipeints of His Grace!) It's interesting to note that perhaps through a DNA marker, one day mankind could be able to identify those of Israel's lineage too! Many who we would describe as "gentiles" may actually possess a component of Israel in their heritage. Romans 9-11 explains God's future plan of salvation for the Jews. "Some of the Jews have hard hearts, but this will last only until the complete number of Gentiles comes to Christ. And all Israel will be saved." (See Romans 11:25-27) When will "the complete number of Gentiles come to Christ?" Most agree that the Rapture will take place at this point and "age of the Gentiles" will be over - thus strengthening the concept of closing of the door of salvation to this group of people. I agree that multitudes will be martyred for their faith in Christ during this time as well, however, according to 2 Thess. 2:12, those who heard the Truth and rejected or did not respond to it will be judged and condemned. Earlier in this passage, we read that God will send them a delusion so that they will be blinded from the Truth of the Gospel they rejected prior to the Rapture. (This is consistent with what God did to Israel as recorded in Romans 11:7-8) As a result, they will choose to believe the lies of antichrist instead. (v11) God is indeed a God of mercy and compassion. His sovereignty will determine those chosen as His elect out of the Great Tribulation. I guess the sobering thought out of this is that one's rejection or lack of response today must be made with the realization that there may be no tomorrow, no "second chance." Now is the appointed time, today, if you hear His voice . . .do not harden your hearts . . . let's be diligent in our evangelism as we see THE DAY approaching! Blessings in Jesus! Mommapbs |
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