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1 | Fruit vs. Works: the same or different? | Gal 5:22 | Aspiring Overseer | 129888 | ||
Hi Karen, Thank you for your quick response. Is God then unjust? John 15:1-2 15:1"I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2"Every branch in Me (in Christ) that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes (disciplines) it, that it may bear more fruit. If people wish to be part of the "true vine" must they not be "in Christ"; that is to be covered by the atoning sacrifice of His blood? Why does John 15 tell us that some of those very people, who were in the "true vine"; those branches already "in Christ"; were taken away? These branches (Christians) were "in Christ" (i.e. saved and having full knowledge of the goodness of God) yet they did not bear fruit and thus lost their salvation! Why did they bear no fruit? Was not God able to perform all the works necessary in them? John 15:8-10 15:8 "By this is My Father glorified, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be My disciples. 9 "Just as the Father has loved Me, I have also loved you; abide in My love. 10 "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's commandments, and abide in His love. NAS Should not Christians put forth the effort to prove themselves as Christ’s disciples just as Christ put forth the effort to obey God the Father? AO |
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2 | Fruit vs. Works: the same or different? | Gal 5:22 | Hiskid84 | 129986 | ||
Hi, AO. I'm sorry I didn't reply to your questions today. I hope to do so tomorrow. I'm sure you must know what my answers will be if you are a regular reader of this forum. I do not hide the fact that I believe any/all of our (Christ-like) works are EVIDENCE of our salvation, not the MEANS of (keeping) salvation. However, I want to give your questions appropriate consideration when answering and appreciate the chance to exercise my ability in defending what I believe to be true. In Christ, Karen |
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3 | Fruit vs. Works: the same or different? | Gal 5:22 | Aspiring Overseer | 130000 | ||
Hi Karen, I look forward to continuing our discussion when you are ready. AO |
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