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1 | what is the state of the dead in Christ? | 1 Cor 5:8 | Mommapbs | 36294 | ||
Thanks - interesting commentary, but it still does not address the fact that Enoch and Elijah did not experience a physical death as Moses did. I wonder what the devil and Michael were arguing about over the body of Moses, maybe this is an indication to us that we should not either! Just a thought! Won't Heaven be great? Just think, all these questions will be answered, but frankly, I don't think they will even matter then! - keep looking up! Mommapbs | ||||||
2 | what is the state of the dead in Christ? | 1 Cor 5:8 | 10ECPreacher | 36299 | ||
Greetings, Mommapbs. I would like to point out a scripture for consideration on this topic. "By faith Enoch was taken up so that he would not see death; AND HE WAS NOT FOUND BECAUSE GOD TOOK HIM UP; for he obtained the witness that before his being taken up he was pleasing to God. ... All these died in faith, without receiving the promises, but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth." [Heb. 11:5, NASB] Even though Enoch did not "see" death (i.e., he lived a scant 365 years compared to 969 of Methusaleh), the Bible records that he indeed "died in faith". I believe Elijah died in a similar manner, when he was "taken up" by God in a whirlwind, accompanied by "a chariot of fire and horses of fire". See 2 Kings 2:11-12. In order for the resurrected Jesus Christ to be the first to have eternal life, no one could be said to possess it before Him. Before Jesus Christ was resurrected from the grave, eternal life, though a theological certainty for the future, was not yet an actual possibility. There were many resuscitations or restoring back to life from the dead in the Bible (such as Lazarus), but all of these people eventually did die again. Kind regards, Tim D. Cormier Tennessee Preacher |
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3 | what is the state of the dead in Christ? | 1 Cor 5:8 | srbaegon | 36300 | ||
Hi Tim, I disagree with you here. The writer of Hebrews is using a generalized comment concerning the aforementioned saints after he had already qualified Enoch's unique situation. Concerning the Lord Jesus being "the first to have eternal life," I suppose that is accurate in that nobody could have eternal life before He conquered death, yet they were safe in Abraham's bosom being a state of practical eternal life though not the final reality. What do you think? Steve |
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4 | what is the state of the dead in Christ? | 1 Cor 5:8 | Mommapbs | 36313 | ||
Greetings Steve: "The tombs were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; and coming out of the tombs after His resurrection, they entered the holy city and appeared to many." Mt 27:52-53. The sequence is AFTER the resurrection so Christ indeed would be the first to have eternal life. But how can we account for these individuals? What do you think happened to them? There is a reference in Ephesians 4:8 which says the when Jesus "ascended on high, He led captives in His train and gave gifts to men." Could these individuals be those "captives?" In a post earlier in February on Mt 27:52 by Robert Nicholson he makes this observation as well. I guess some things we won't know until we get to Heaven! That's OK with me! Mommapbs | ||||||