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1 | Does this mean they do not go to heaven? | Rom 8:9 | GreggB | 131931 | ||
But if anyone does not possess the [Holy] Spirit of Christ, he is none of His [he does not belong to Christ, is not truly a child of God]. Does this mean they do not go to heaven? |
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2 | Does this mean they do not go to heaven? | Rom 8:9 | DocTrinsograce | 131938 | ||
That is correct. It means that they were never saved, since the Holy Spirit is a gift that seals the promise of our salvation. | ||||||
3 | Does this mean they do not go to heaven? | Rom 8:9 | GreggB | 131942 | ||
Doc, do you know how many people do not have the Holy Spirit living in them, or have invited the Holy Spirit in to their hearts, that call them selves Christians? | ||||||
4 | Does this mean they do not go to heaven? | Rom 8:9 | BradK | 131943 | ||
Gregg, That would appear to be an unknowable question! All we can reasonably say is that not all who cry, "Lord, Lord" will enter into His kingdom. Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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5 | Does this mean they do not go to heaven? | Rom 8:9 | GreggB | 131950 | ||
It is still a sad fact that not all Christians have invited the Holy Spirit in to their Hearts, and they do not allow Him to live through their lives. I mean if Christians do not do that, then they are doing everything in their own flesh (Adam), and not in God's Spirit. There fore they are fooling them selves. |
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6 | Does this mean they do not go to heaven? | Rom 8:9 | EdB | 131959 | ||
GreggB What is even sadder is many have never been told they need to or instructed on how to. 11 "But when the king came in to see the guests, he saw a man there who did not have on a wedding garment. 12 "So he said to him, 'Friend, how did you come in here without a wedding garment?' And he was speechless. 13 "Then the king said to the servants, 'Bind him hand and foot, take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.' 14 "For many are called, but few are chosen." Matt 22:11-14 (NKJV) EdB |
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7 | Does this mean they do not go to heaven? | Rom 8:9 | JCrichton | 131975 | ||
"What is even sadder is many have never been told they need to or instructed on how to." Hi, EdB! I do not think that it is simply a matter of ignorance... I think it is a matter of choice! Most Christians have access to a Bible (whatever version) and most Christians have access to Bible Study... the problem lies not in not knowing Scripture or God's Command... rather, the problem lies in the callous circumvention of the Word in order to reap the "treasures" the offered by the world. "Christians" will twist Scripture to mean what ever they choose: OK to commit murder if it is self-murder; OK to fornicate (not just the sexual fornication) as long as there's a loophole that we think we can find in Scripture; OK to hate, envy, lust (not just sex), oppress, cheat, rob, debase, dehumanize, use, usurp, denigrate, circumvent Scripture... just as long as we can point to "not found in the Bible" or "we are born again" or "we are saved" or "the flesh is weak!" When Jesus explained God's possition against divorce (Matthew 19:3-9), what the the disciples do, did they receive His teachings with an open heart, mind and spirit? No! They proceded to complain... so why mary! (Matthew 19:10) "Christians" behave in just such manner! We search Scripture not just to merely get to know Christ and to get close to God, but to rule others, to invent methods of worship, to separate ourselves from others who claim to be Christians... yes, and even to presume to know God's Mind better than God Himself as we profess to know clauses that guarantee Salvation, wealth, health, and a myriad of Divine Gifts and Powers... We use Scripture to nullify Scriture and even when clear mandates are given we seek to know the deeper meanings of things in order to ignore God's Command! When it is convenient to our ego boosting we ignore all Scripture that guide us to the Truth: So with you, as you are eager to have spiritual powers, aim to be rich in those which build up the community (Church--personal emphasis). (1 Corinthians 14:12) Building up the commnity (Church) does not mean to tear down and rebuild according to personal preference or whim! Dividing Christ's Body (the Church) into an inexhaustible and inconsistent variation of doctrines in no way corresponds to edifying the Church! As "Christians" continue their quest for "their" church and truth... the Truth and the Life continues to be evaded: We were baptised into one body in a single Spirit, Jews as well as Greeks, slaves as well as free men, and we were all given the same Spirit to drink... and so that there not be disagreements inside the body but each part may be equally concerned for all the others... Now Christ's body is yourselves, each of you with a part to play in the whole. (1 Corinthians 12:13, 25, 27) And as you pointed out: "many are called but few chosen," because not all choose to be obedient to the Word (Romans 10:16-21)! God Bless! Angel |
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8 | Does this mean they do not go to heaven? | Rom 8:9 | EdB | 132002 | ||
Angel I agree with much of what you say. Let me add that much of the fault lies at the feet of those that have been or are in church leadership. Most focus on church building or expansion or at the very least maintaining what they have. Few if any give any consideration to ... the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, Eph 4:12 (NKJV) Further more I could not agree with you more the division of the church into the various denominations and "what I think is right" has seriously hurt the church. EdB |
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9 | Does this mean they do not go to heaven? | Rom 8:9 | JCrichton | 132015 | ||
"Most focus on church building or expansion or at the very least maintaining what they have." You are so right! I've heard people using financial status as a tool to bring in the "converts." They would speak on how costly their building (though they refer to it as church) was (always in the millions); how much money was put into the orchestra-like music ministry, how their congegation is comprised of so many doctors, lawyers and other professinals; how in x amount of months they have acquire even more real estate to build an even bigger building or sister church; how they have x amount of converts from this group or that group... It seems that that old American bug, "the Jones's," has been caught even by Christians! It appears that Paul's arguments about the unity and edification of the Body of Christ fall under some Bermuda Triangle mindset that allows some to filter out any actual obligations to obey Scripture! No wonder Christ challenged: ...But when the Son of man comes, will he find any faith on earth?' (Luke 18:8) I pray that the Holy Spirit enlighten us and bring us back to the Truth! God Bless! Angel |
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