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1 | Is there intelligent life on earth? | John 17:17 | Morant61 | 143032 | ||
Greetings Doc! First of all, I only asked two questions! I asked if skits were wrong and if so where did Scripture say so! You sorted of answered the first one, but totally skipped the second one! :-) Secondly, I never questioned your honesty! I simply responded to your statement that I have personally never seen anyone use a skit instead of a sermon. You made it sound like I hadn't simply because I hadn't been to enough churches! :-) Thirdly, where did I ever state that I was opposed to preaching? If we disagree on the issue of worship styles, that is fine. But, let's not get insulting! Please! I happen to love preaching! Fourthly, where did I ever say that I was opposed to hymns? Again, you are putting words in my mouth my friend. I happen to love hymns. But, I also happen to love some newer music as well. I love any song that worships God, whether it was written 200 years ago or 2 minutes ago! ;-) I just happen to know that Scripture doesn't limit use to one particular style of song, or tempo! Finally, I don't believe that churches that use newer music are trying to 'look like the world'. They are simply trying to be 'contemporary'. By that I simply mean this: The first century church did not sing songs from 1800! They used music, words, and styles that were contemporary to them. Churches in the 1500's used music from their time. Churches in the 1800's used music from their time. Churches in 2005 should be allowed to use music that is contemporary to our time. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Is there intelligent life on earth? | John 17:17 | DocTrinsograce | 143070 | ||
Sorry, Brother Tim... I thought the implications were pretty clear. I commented on some faults in some churches and you questioned my finding fault with them. This seemed like a tacit defense of their practices. Please forgive me for any offense that you may have suffered. It is never my intent to hurt. It is always my intent to draw is back to the Word. Perhaps, knowing my heart, you will grant me allowances for my zeal. The first century church is not a perfect model for all normative behavior. It was quite immature and had problems that even you and I would be aghast over (hence all the corrective epistles). However, you are correct, they did not sing hymns and psalms from the 1800's. They didn't even sing 200 year old hymns and psalms. They adopted, instead, the Jewish practice of singing 900 year old hymns and psalms. So if we insist on using them as a pattern in this respect for our modern behavior, we should find hymns that are about 4 times older! (By the way, this is why some groups use what are called psalters -- the Psalms set to music.) We should also avoid using any other church period to set the standard for what we are doing today. The 1900, 1800, 1700, 1600, going back as far as you want saw their share of heresy -- we aren't immune. The only certain, infallible, sufficient, and complete standard is scripture. Where the Bible does not state explicitly or implicitly, we bring to bear scriptural principles. You bring up an interesting point. You state your objective is to be more "contemporary." Perhaps it would be helpful to define what you mean by this word. You make a distinction between what is practiced in more traditional churches from what you would like to see practiced. So, what is it that you use as a pattern for comparison in order to determine your success at becoming more contemporary? In Him, Doc |
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3 | Is there intelligent life on earth? | John 17:17 | Morant61 | 143074 | ||
Greetings Doc! My use of the word 'contemporary' simply refers to 'living in 2005'. So, I would use computers in Sunday School instead of flannel boards! I would use projectors instead of hymnals. I would use multi-media to illusrate my sermons instead of just quoting literature. I would use the best air-conditioning I can get! ;-) In other words, I would live like it is 2005! ;-) I would use current English styles instead of Elizabethean english. This is all that I mean by being 'contemporary'. I do not mean that I would change the Gospel to make it acceptable. I do not mean that I would ignore the parts of the Bible that people don't like today. I do not mean that worship should be a 'show' - man centered rather than God centered. In worship, I will obey the commands that God has given! In worship, I will apply Biblical principles to everything I do! But, I will not limit worship because of man made distinctions that have no support in Scripture. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Is there intelligent life on earth? | John 17:17 | DocTrinsograce | 143078 | ||
Hi, Brother Tim... So the term contemporary when used in regard to worship only means the environmental and presentation technologies? (I thought it had to do with the music, since your original question arose from my criticism of "heavy metal instead of hymns.") If contemporary worship simply means that it takes place in a modern sanctuary with electronic acoustics and multimedia devices, we have no disagreement in this regard. The presence of such things do not impede our awe and reverence for our Holy God. I commend you for your concerted efforts to apply Biblical standards to your worship, rather than tayloring things by some other extra-biblical standard. I would enjoy attending such a worship. Thank you for explaining, brother. In Him, Doc |
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5 | Is there intelligent life on earth? | John 17:17 | Morant61 | 143079 | ||
Greetings Doc! I would include music as well! Personally, I use a mixture of musical styles. Get well my friend! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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