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1 | What is the concept of Paradise? | Luke 23:43 | Mikail | 122150 | ||
What is exactly Paradise? What do we expect in Paradise? | ||||||
2 | What is the concept of Paradise? | Luke 23:43 | kalos | 122155 | ||
Paradise (Strong's # 3857, paradeisos) 'In Luke 23:43, the promise of the Lord to the repentant robber was fulfilled the same day; Christ, at His death, having committed His spirit to the Father, went in spirit immediately into Heaven itself, the dwelling place of God (the Lord's mention of the place as "paradise" must have been a great comfort to the malefactor; to the oriental mind it expressed the sum total of blessedness). Thither the Apostle Paul was caught up, 2 Cor. 12:4, spoken of as "the third heaven" (ver. 3 does not introduce a different vision), beyond the heavens of the natural creation (see Heb. 4:14, RV, with reference to the Ascension). The same region is mentioned in Rev. 2:7, where the "tree of life," the figurative antitype of that in Eden, held out to the overcomer, is spoken of as being in "the Paradise of God" (RV), marg., "garden," as in Gen. 2:8. 'Paradise (Strong's # 3857,paradeisos) is an Oriental word, first used by the historian Xenophon, denoting "the parks of Perisian kings and nobles." It is of Persian origin (Old Pers. pairidaeza, akin to Gk. peri, "around," and teichos, "a wall") whence it passed into Greek. See the Sept., e.g., in Neh. 2:8; Eccl. 2:5; Song of Sol. 4:13. The Sept. translators used it of the garden of Eden, Gen. 2:8, and in other respects, e.g., Num. 24:6; Isa. 1:30; Jer. 29:5; Ezek. 31:8,9.' ____________________ http://www.interhack.net/projects/library/vine/T0002050.html#T0002051 |
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3 | What is the concept of Paradise? | Luke 23:43 | MissJW | 122173 | ||
Hello Kalos, You say,"'In Luke 23:43, the promise of the Lord to the repentant robber was fulfilled the same day;" I wonder Kalos, why you say this. Do you not know that that day that Jesus said those words ended and he hadn't died yet? He actually died after 6:00 p.m. which would be the next day. So, something is wrong with this scenerio you present. I'm just having fun with you Kalos, it is an interesting thought you might appreciate looking at again. What did Jesus really say? 2) You also say, "Christ, at His death, having committed His spirit to the Father, went in spirit immediately into Heaven itself, the dwelling place of God". It appears to me that you are saying that Christ isn't God since he went to God in heaven. Also, it appears that you are saying that Christ wasn't dead for 3 days? I know I'm just a Jehovah's Witness and you probably think I have no earthly idea of "truth" when it comes to the Bible, and wouldn't give me the time of day if I asked you, but I undersand that Christ was dead for 3 days, then resurrected to life for 40 days here on earth and then rose to heaven to his Father. Am I mistaken, in total left field or what? Of course, I note you are merely quoting another's thought, but usually we are in agreement with what we quote unless stated otherwise. I would like your input here. And thank you in advance, Kalos. MissJW |
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4 | What is the concept of Paradise? | Luke 23:43 | kalos | 122176 | ||
Miss JW: I realize that you are a Jehovah's Witness. Nevertheless, I have nothing against you as an individual. Not give you the time of day? Not true. :-) The ninth hour of the day is three o'clock. [45] Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land until the ninth hour. [46] And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" that is, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" [47] And some of the bystanders, hearing it, said, "This man is calling Elijah." [48] And one of them at once ran and took a sponge, filled it with sour wine, and put it on a reed and gave it to him to drink. [49] But the others said, "Wait, let us see whether Elijah will come to save him." [50] And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice and yielded up his spirit. Matthew 27:45-50 (ESV) The ninth hour is three o'clock. AMPLIFIED Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour (three o'clock) Jesus cried with a loud voice, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?--that is, My God, My God, why have You abandoned Me [leaving Me helpless, forsaking and failing Me in My need]? [Ps. 22:1.] --kalos |
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5 | What is the concept of Paradise? | Luke 23:43 | MissJW | 122455 | ||
Hello Kalos, You are sharp, :-) (got my pun). Thus you agree that Jesus died not on the same day as the evildoer on his side? Am I correct? With Luke 23:43 and the subject of paradise, how do you make this fact agree with your thought that the evildoer was with Jesus that selfsame day? I note too that since the question he presented linked "paradise" with Jesus' kingdom a much later time would be the more accurate understanding of the term. Any thoughts? 42 And he went on to say: “Jesus, remember me when you get into your kingdom.” 43 And he said to him: “Truly I tell you today, You will be with me in Paradise.” MissJW |
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