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1 | past prophecy or future or both? | Mic 7:5 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59009 | ||
What exactly does this mean? "Keep the doors of your mouth from her who lies in your bosom." I'm looking here for knowledge as much as wisdom. What are the 'doors of your mouth'? Your lips? Your words? Does it have to be a particular confidence or is it anything? 'her who lies in your bosom'-- is that your spouse or your child? It seems to say a child from verse 6. And is Micah past prophecy and future prophecy? Melanie |
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2 | past prophecy or future or both? | Mic 7:5 | Emmaus | 59014 | ||
Melanie, I think you have look at this in the context of the larger passage Micah 7:1-7, which is a conmentary on how universal injustice is in the world. He is saying that in the end only God can be trusted to be faithful and just, everyone else is sure to let you down sooner or later. It sounds pretty contemporary to me. Some prophecies are past, present and future especially when speaking about man's capacity for weakness and sin. Emmaus |
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3 | past prophecy or future or both? | Mic 7:5 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59015 | ||
Yes when you read it in that context it does sound very contemporary, doesn't it? In v9 it seems as though he is including himself in this 'universally unjust', but v8 seems to be he is saying he is seperate from it. Your thoughts? But am I also reading correctly in v9 that he is speaking, as a sinner, of Jesus? And is that where I am getting the part of it but also seperate from it? How does anyone study the Bible without a teacher? Melanie |
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4 | past prophecy or future or both? | Mic 7:5 | Emmaus | 59017 | ||
Melanie, He must be speaking as a sinner himself,since he speaks of God saving him in verse 7 and he says it directly in verse 9 that he is a sinner who suffers the anger of Yahweh. See Romans 1:18. I don't see this as a messianic prophecy,but the sinner here seems to foreshadow what St Paul says in Romans 6:5 As for your question How does one study the bible without a teacher?, I don't think it can be done effectively as indicated in Acts 8:26-39. But that does not stop people from trying. In my particular case I belong to a Church with Sacred Tradition and authoriy to shed light on and in some case authoritatively interpret difficult or disputed passages of the scripture. I truly believe that most of those who profess "scripture alone" with only the Holy Spirit to guide them usually in reality are also following the teaching and tradition of their own churches. And some of them even acknowlege the place of their tradition in their learning although perhaps not in the same manner as Catholics. Emmaus |
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5 | past prophecy or future or both? | Mic 7:5 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59020 | ||
I will tell you I was bred, born and raised Baptist in Georgia. I never had a clue what it meant to have a personal relationship with Jesus. Funnily enough it was my first husband, an Italian Catholic, who first brought me back to the Lord, and that because he had an even more anti-church bias than I did. It was okay for me to have a distance from church, but I loved God and he wanted to deny him completely. I decided to study Catholic doctrine to see what had pushed him to that extreme. I discovered it wasn't Catholic doctrine, but the treatment of it by his particular parish priest when he was a child. It took me 14 years to get him to accept that. And in case you're wondering about the ex-husband, the problem was adultery, but if I had been saved at the time I would not have divorced him because he did want to be forgiven. That was almost 8 years ago. Actually thinking about it, it was a Catholic priest who provided my next nudge (shove?) back to God. Andrew Greeley actually. I don't know how the Church views him, and I don't share his She for God, but his fiction work did make me understand that God loved me, even through trials. I guess that is why I have always had a fondness for the Catholic Church. But you don't have alot of them out here in my little neck of the woods. Actually I don't know of a Catholic church within 40 miles. But I was privileged to pray once at one of the side altars in Notre Dame in Paris. In any event I would have to say that it was Word of Faith ministers (as I've discovered they are just this night on this forum) who convinced me I'd better get my heart right with Jesus and put Him in control of my life. I am Baptist again, and Baptized this time, not because of any particular doctrinal beliefs, but because the church is right down the street and filled with about 90 (now) people who truly love God and each other. I am also sitting here laughing, because I have just realized that the soothing sounds on the TV that I have been listening to is EWTN's Our Lady of the Angels Daily Mass. I think he was singing Psalm 145, and now the priest is reading on John1:45-51. I do like to listen to mass. When I am agitated the way the Scriptures are sung while I am praying is like a balm to my spirit. Well, I went off on a tangent there. Sorry about that. I want to listen to the mass, so I will close. But would it be permissible for a Catholic to advise a non-Catholic on a Bible study -- course of reading? And be available for questions as I read? Thanks for thinking about it, Melanie |
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6 | past prophecy or future or both? | Mic 7:5 | Emmaus | 59027 | ||
Melanie, What an interesting story you have! I will give some thought to a course of reading and send you a list by e-mail. There is a lot out there but I would like to keep any list of recommended titles reasonably limited. I am happy to continue any discussion of particular passages online, but I feel it would not be fair to the rest of the forum or within the rules to set up a separate "Catholic Scripture Study Program" so to speak, on the forum. Emmaus |
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7 | past prophecy or future or both? | Mic 7:5 | jesusfreak508@aol.com | 59028 | ||
Thank you very much. I know as a Catholic you won't feel this way, perhaps that is why I would trust you with such a study program, but I don't give a hoot about doctrine. I want to learn the Word. I live in a very rural area where Bible study groups do not abound, that I have found yet anyway, and if this forum is an example, most Christians not Catholic seem to have some doctrinal ax to grind. I've got sucked into a couple of these doctrine wars and I don't like it. Was it Paul who said something like 'I know what I don't want to do, then I do it'? I have to thank Tim Moran and EdB though for walking me through to a place of peace at last with the last couple of verses of Paul that gave me trouble. I think you sent me the web site on deaconesses during part of that in fact. Thank you for that, too. I have been moving around the second link you sent me a fair amount. How I would love to be able to read some of the old manuscripts and documents! I look forward to your email of reading material. I am very good student and I love to read and learn. I am very excited! You are an answer to a prayer, Emmaus. Melanie |
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