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1 | Who is the 'lady'? | 2 John | kalos | 10954 | ||
I give up. I'll just drop the subject. By the way, the next time you are sick or in trouble, stay away from a licensed physician or a lawyer who is a member of the bar. Just read a book on surgery, contract law, or whatever. What need do we have of experts in any field? And don't forget to send your kids to a school where all the teachers are unlicensed college drop-outs. Let's be consistent. Maybe an angel will appear to you in a vision and show you how to remove an appendix. Maybe he will lay hands on you and impart the training and experience you would need to argue a case in court. Maybe if your kids or grandkids stayed at home, alone in their rooms with nothing but their textbooks, they would figure out everything for themselves. Whatever. |
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2 | Who is the 'lady'? | 2 John | Hank | 10961 | ||
John, when I really want to know something, I ask my thermometer. It has more degrees than any of the experts!..... But seriously, you and I (and others on the forum) have been on the same page on this, that it is singularly unwise not to avail ourselves of the excellent scholarship and insights made abundantly available to us by a number of sound Bible teachers. As I've said before about 74 times on the forum, the Bible is a complex and difficult body of writings, and none of us has the time to devote the aggregate number of hours that even a half dozen professional Bible scholars have devoted to the study of the manuscripts in their original languages, to the background of Bible times and peoples, etc. These people like John MacArthur and Charles Ryrie are our teachers and fine ones at that. While it isn't incumbent upon us to agree with their every point, it is incumbent that we make dead sure that our position is the right one and not hasten to our own conclusion on the matter. I feel that if I should adopt a position on a biblical matter that is contrary to the soundest and best time-honored orthodox teaching, I stand in dire need of re-examining my own view. It could be possible, but not in the least likely, that God would reveal to me a truth that He has kept hidden to the rest of mankind for countless ages. --Hank | ||||||
3 | Who is the 'lady'? | 2 John | kalos | 11006 | ||
Hank: Do you mean to tell me that the best way is not to read a verse and assume that the first interpretation of it that comes to mind must be THE RIGHT ONE? :-) Thank you for a fine posting, one that is intelligent, reasonable and filled with common sense. To expand on the subject a bit, it seems to me that to belittle and ignore teachers such as you and I have named is to deny the truth of Scripture that tells us the Holy Spirit gives gifts to men and then Christ gives those gifted men to the church for its edification. One category of gifted men that Christ Himself gives to the church is teachers. Many of these teachers have written books. Again, to whom it may concern, this is NOT rocket science. A little common sense, please. Also it is interesting to note: There is a consensus among prominent evangelical teachers and authors regarding the essentials of the faith. The fact of their consensus demonstrates that each teacher is not off on another planet of their own making. The fact that they don't agree on every last verse in the Bible ought to be sufficient to show that there is no "conspiracy" among them to defraud and deceive. The argument that the Roman Catholic hierarchy of the 15th Century were the experts of the day and were wrong is the poorest argument I've ever heard to ignore all Christian teachers. One might as well say that since the Pharisees had strayed from the truth of the Bible (2,000 years ago), then to be on the safe side we ought never again trust any Bible teacher. Or as you yourself (I think it was) once said, if we don't need men to interpet the Scriptures (which happens every time someone delivers a sermon), then why did Jesus commission the disciples to "go" into all the world? Wouldn't it have been equally effective and more efficient to just mail out copies of the Bible all over the world and let the unevangelized figure out the plan of salvation on their own? Alas, you and I waste our time presenting these truths. If one has some kind of psychological hang-up or childhood trauma in regard to "experts", then they will never change their mind though the apostles or an angel from heaven tries to explain it to them. (Of course, the apostles and angels are just so many "experts," so what do they know? After all, they're all in cahoots with each other?) --JVH0212 "In essentials unity, in nonessentials liberty, and in all things charity." |
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